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    • J
      jpvonhemel last edited by

      I am wondering why pfblockerng is blocking shopify sites like clivecoffee.com and huckleberryroasters.com. Grep didn’t find any lists with these domains. I know i can whitelist, but really want to learn why it is happening.

      Thanks
      Jerold

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      • johnpoz
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

        And how do you know its blocking? what IP is it resolving too? Are you getting NX, Refused when you try and query it?

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          jpvonhemel last edited by

          When I disable pfblockerng, or add the domain to the whitelist, the sites load. I am not at home now, I’ll get back on the other questions, I know I the ip they resolve to is the same, and that is from Shopify.

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          • johnpoz
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

            Well then they are either being blocked by a list your loading that you can grep for the domain. Or you by an geoIP block..

            I show that clivecoffee being in CA

            23.227.38.32

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            • NogBadTheBad
              NogBadTheBad Galactic Empire last edited by

              @jpvonhemel said in shopify sites:

              huckleberryroasters.com

              AS details for AS62679 :-

              aut-num: AS62679
              as-name: ASN-SHOPIFY-1
              descr: Shopify, Inc
              descr: 150 Elgin St, 8th Floor
              descr: Ottawa, ON K2P 1L4
              descr: CA
              import: from AS23352 accept ANY
              import: from AS14244 accept ANY
              import: from AS6461 accept ANY
              import: from AS46887 accept ANY
              import: from AS63408 accept ANY
              import: from AS2914 accept ANY
              export: to AS23352 announce AS62679
              export: to AS14244 announce AS62679
              export: to AS6461 announce AS62679
              export: to AS46887 announce AS62679
              export: to AS32787 announce AS62679
              export: to AS63408 announce AS62679
              export: to AS2914 announce AS62679
              admin-c: SHOPI-ARIN
              tech-c: SHOPI-ARIN
              mnt-by: MNT-SHOPI-1
              changed: peter.denitto@shopify.com 20170428
              source: ARIN

              IPv4 subnets for AS62679 :-

              23.227.32.0/19
              23.227.37.0/24
              23.227.38.0/23
              23.227.41.0/24
              23.227.38.0/24
              23.227.39.0/24
              23.227.53.0/24
              23.227.54.0/24
              23.227.55.0/24
              23.227.52.0/24
              23.227.32.0/19
              23.227.39.0/24
              23.227.32.0/24
              23.227.33.0/24
              23.227.34.0/24
              23.227.35.0/24
              23.227.36.0/24
              23.227.37.0/24
              23.227.38.0/24
              23.227.40.0/24
              23.227.41.0/24
              23.227.42.0/24
              23.227.44.0/24
              23.227.45.0/24
              23.227.46.0/24
              23.227.47.0/24
              23.227.48.0/24
              23.227.49.0/24
              23.227.50.0/24
              23.227.51.0/24
              23.227.52.0/24
              23.227.53.0/24
              23.227.54.0/24
              23.227.55.0/24
              23.227.56.0/24
              23.227.57.0/24
              23.227.58.0/24
              23.227.59.0/24
              23.227.60.0/24
              23.227.61.0/24
              23.227.62.0/24
              23.227.63.0/24

              IPv6 subnets for AS62679 :-

              2620:127:F000::/44
              2620:127:F000::/44
              2620:127:F000::/48
              2620:127:F001::/48
              2620:127:F002::/48
              2620:127:F003::/48
              2620:127:F004::/48
              2620:127:F005::/48
              2620:127:F006::/48
              2620:127:F007::/48
              2620:127:F008::/48
              2620:127:F009::/48
              2620:127:F00A::/48
              2620:127:F00B::/48
              2620:127:F00C::/48
              2620:127:F00D::/48
              2620:127:F00E::/48
              2620:127:F00F::/48
              2620:127:F000::/47
              2620:127:F002::/47
              2620:127:F004::/47
              2620:127:F006::/47
              2620:127:F008::/47
              2620:127:F00A::/47
              2620:127:F00C::/47
              2620:127:F00E::/47
              2620:127:F000::/46
              2620:127:F004::/46
              2620:127:F008::/46
              2620:127:F00C::/46
              2620:127:F000::/45
              2620:127:F008::/45

              Monday, 6 July 2020 at 19:43:46 British Summer Time

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              • NogBadTheBad
                NogBadTheBad Galactic Empire last edited by NogBadTheBad

                Have a look at /var/log/pfblockerng/dnsbl.log

                Screenshot 2020-07-06 at 20.13.08.png

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                  jpvonhemel @johnpoz last edited by

                  Hi @johnpoz I mentioned that grep didn’t return anything for either domain and I don’t have any geo ip blocks loaded at this time. Tomorrow I will take a look at the settings again and see if anything stands out.

                  Thank you,
                  Jerold

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                  • NogBadTheBad
                    NogBadTheBad Galactic Empire @jpvonhemel last edited by

                    @jpvonhemel

                    You'll see what feeds are blocking it if you follow my screenshots.

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                    • Gertjan
                      Gertjan @jpvonhemel last edited by

                      @jpvonhemel said in shopify sites:

                      I mentioned that grep didn’t return

                      Please show you grep query ?

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                        jpvonhemel last edited by

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                          jpvonhemel last edited by

                          Hello,

                          I ran through the suggestions above and here is what I have figured out.

                          Here is my grep output:

                          IMG_0049.PNG

                          Here is the dnsbl name search output:

                          IMG_0052.PNG

                          IMG_0053.PNG

                          What is odd is both names resolve to the same ip address. When I used the filter for this ip address, I found the list involved.

                          IMG_0054.PNG

                          Hoping I need to whitelist 23.227.38.32 or myshopify.com. It would stink to have to whitelist every domaine that resolves to this address.

                          Thanks for helping me!Any other thoughts or suggestions?

                          Jerold

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                            jpvonhemel last edited by

                            I tried to whitelist the domains and reloaded, but the sites are still blocked. Here is a snipped of what I whitelisted on the reload output. Not sure where to go from here but would really love to learn!

                            Thanks,

                            Jerold

                            Annotation 2020-07-07 185937.jpg

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                            • Gertjan
                              Gertjan last edited by

                              Initially, when a domain name is 'blacklisted', the resolver hands over the "10.10.10.1" IP, as set up in the settings.
                              When you whitelist an IP or domain, the resolver 'cache' will get modified .... but the DNS cache in your device (PC, phone ?) will not, it will stay valid for some time, still pointing to 10.10.10.1.

                              That's why Windows has a command like

                              ipconfig /flushdns
                              

                              so that the domain get resolved again, and this time it will resolve to the 'real' IP.

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                                jpvonhemel last edited by

                                If the blocked shopify sites are being blocked with DNSBL and a feed, shouldn't I be seeing a page like this?

                                Annotation 2020-07-08 094835.jpg

                                I am wondering if this isn't an ip block, because no pfblockerngpage is returned.

                                Annotation 2020-07-08 095819.jpg

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                                  jpvonhemel last edited by

                                  ipconfig /flushdns ran at the command line, but did not allow the page to resolve correctly.

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                                    jdeloach @jpvonhemel last edited by jdeloach

                                    @jpvonhemel said in shopify sites:

                                    If the blocked shopify sites are being blocked with DNSBL and a feed, shouldn't I be seeing a page like this?

                                    Annotation 2020-07-08 094835.jpg

                                    I am wondering if this isn't an ip block, because no pfblockerngpage is returned.

                                    Annotation 2020-07-08 095819.jpg

                                    This is what I would expect to get if pfBlockerNG blocked a website that was on block list that I was using. This is the default block page you get when a website is blocked by pfblocker.

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                                    • J
                                      jpvonhemel last edited by

                                      My blocked sites, clivecoffee.com and huckleberrycoffee.com do not display the pfblocker black and red screen on load, they simply return this. I am thinking the ipv4 ip address is blocked, and not the domain. I am trying to create an alias whitelist with the ip address, but it does not seem to fix the issue.

                                      Annotation 2020-07-08 095819.jpg

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                                        jdeloach @jpvonhemel last edited by

                                        @jpvonhemel said in shopify sites:

                                        My blocked sites, clivecoffee.com and huckleberrycoffee.com do not display the pfblocker black and red screen on load, they simply return this. I am thinking the ipv4 ip address is blocked, and not the domain. I am trying to create an alias whitelist with the ip address, but it does not seem to fix the issue.

                                        Annotation 2020-07-08 095819.jpg

                                        If you haven't already done so, you might give this doc a read as it explains a lot about how to configure DNSBL on pfBlockerNG. It's a little dated but for the most part it is still accurate https://linuxincluded.com/block-ads-malvertising-on-pfsense-using-pfblockerng-dnsbl/.

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                                          jpvonhemel @jdeloach last edited by

                                          @johnpoz said in shopify sites:

                                          And how do you know its blocking? what IP is it resolving too? Are you getting NX, Refused when you try and query it?

                                          Hi John Poz,

                                          I'm sorry, but I don't know what you mean by NX, refused. Would you mind explaining this to me. I would like to learn this.

                                          Thanks,

                                          Jerold

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                                            jpvonhemel @jdeloach last edited by

                                            If you haven't already done so, you might give this doc a read as it explains a lot about how to configure DNSBL on pfBlockerNG. It's a little dated but for the most part it is still accurate https://linuxincluded.com/block-ads-malvertising-on-pfsense-using-pfblockerng-dnsbl/.

                                            Thanks, I will take a look

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                                            • johnpoz
                                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                                              A query with your fav dns query tool, dig, host, nslookup NXdomain meaning what you looking for does not exist, or can not be found. While Refused NS saying he not going to answer you - even if he knew the answer.. SERVFAIL would be another possible status listed in your query.

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                                              • Gertjan
                                                Gertjan last edited by

                                                The coffee sites are Cloudfare based - a big web hosting operator.

                                                My guess : you're using a pfBockerNG feed that blacklists entire 'cloudfare' networks, not just the coffee domain names.
                                                Like 23.227.38.64 and 23.227.38.32 you could find 23.227.0.0/16

                                                When you see http://23.227.38.64/ you know that http://23.227.38.64/ is a coffee site, but also site that sells book, heavy porn, etc etc (examples) It's a shared virtual web server. One IP hosts many web sites.

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                                                • johnpoz
                                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by johnpoz

                                                  Blocking cloudflare IPs would be a horrible idea if you actually want to you know use the internet ;)

                                                  edit: Quick number pulled up
                                                  "Cloudflare is used by 81.2% of all the websites whose reverse proxy service we know. This is 13.6% of all websites."

                                                  That would be a huge freaking chunk of net to just block ;)

                                                  Blocking IPs of major CDN's not really a good idea if you actually want to use the internet ;) Blocking by specific domain names is much better way to block stuff you want to block.

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                                                  • SebM
                                                    SebM last edited by

                                                    Did someone ever come up with an elegant solution to this problem?
                                                    Or is it suggested to whitelist the IP address 23.227.38.32?

                                                    Thanks.

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                                                    • Gertjan
                                                      Gertjan @SebM last edited by

                                                      @sebm I guess none of us has issues with that IP.

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                                                      • SebM
                                                        SebM @Gertjan last edited by

                                                        @gertjan said in shopify sites:

                                                        @sebm I guess none of us has issues with that IP.

                                                        None? I would think I’m not the only one who has to allow access to Shopify.

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                                                        • Gertjan
                                                          Gertjan @SebM last edited by

                                                          @sebm said in shopify sites:

                                                          Shopify

                                                          Dono what it is - don't use that site - don't block it.

                                                          I'm probably not using DNSBL lists/feeds that block cloudfaire IPs and/or domains hosted by ckoudfaire.
                                                          And if so, whitelisting the domain name should do it.

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                                                          • BBcan177
                                                            BBcan177 Moderator @jpvonhemel last edited by

                                                            @jpvonhemel said in shopify sites:

                                                            Add domain to the DNSBL Whitelist, not the TLD Whitelist. Click on the blue infoblock Icons for more details.

                                                            Also recommend to whitelist from the Reports Tab, but clicking the "+" icon, as that will also check if there are CNAMES associated with the domain.

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                                                              MrFrenchFry last edited by MrFrenchFry

                                                              I'm having the same issue with IP 23.227.38.32 - My Forum Post

                                                              This is blocking a lot of common Shopify sites, slamcity.com, rollersnakes.com

                                                              I can see the blocked IP in the URL Alias PRI1_V4 which is an auto generated list, more details in my post on what I've seen.

                                                              Issue I have is that the blocked sites are not showing on alerts and whitelisting the Domain Names doesn't work.

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                                                              • BBcan177
                                                                BBcan177 Moderator @MrFrenchFry last edited by

                                                                @mrfrenchfry
                                                                You can't mix DNSBL and IP Blocking, they are two different animals.

                                                                Whitelist IPs for blocked IP Events, and Whitelist DNSBL for DNSBL Blocked events.

                                                                See the Reports Tab for the "+" whitelist Icons.

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                                                                  Ramosel @jpvonhemel last edited by Ramosel

                                                                  @jpvonhemel said in shopify sites:

                                                                  When I disable pfblockerng, or add the domain to the whitelist, the sites load. I am not at home now, I’ll get back on the other questions, I know I the ip they resolve to is the same, and that is from Shopify.

                                                                  Yeah, I ran across a similar event when I was trying to get to Maglite.com. I didn't disable pfBlockerNG, I just caught the Shopify by time stamp in the alert tab and did a temporary unlock on it. Maglite.com then worked.

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