PFsense legacy install on Firebox X1000


  • Hi all,
    I have with me a X1000 firewall. No OS installed, Stock BIOS
    Could anyone provide the steps they did to get PFsense installed? the information I can find is only for the X500 and X750 but they are different.
    Console connections seem to work when it wants too, i assume its down the device being headless.
    I have a 4GB CF Card and Null Serial cable.
    pfSense-2.1-RELEASE-4g-i386-nanobsd.ISO
    To clarfiy do i need a 256mb CF card or 512 to flash its bios?

    To keep it a lil quieter ive replace the CPU cooler and rear chassis fans.
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    Thanks!


  • @dafoxx said in PFsense legacy install on Firebox X1000:

    pfSense-2.1-RELEASE-4g-i386-nanobsd.ISO

    Hi,

    At the beginning have to we clarify I respect you...really

    what you want to achieve with this - pfSense-2.1-RELEASE-4g-i386-nanobsd.ISO = it's all just - not safe

    again we are there, why not everyone installs Win95


  • @daddygo The firefox is a 32bit system and seems to stop being supported after 2.4 for 32bit support. so if its possible to find a new version im all ears.


  • @dafoxx said in PFsense legacy install on Firebox X1000:

    The firefox is a 32bit system

    Firefox is 64-bit 😉 , but Firebox, may be 32bit (base), I haven’t even seen such a fossil...

    That's not the point, but you are very right, newer 64bit. (pfSense)
    I hinted that you would like us to protect ourselves again with an arrow and a stone ax...

    The world is rushing and the version you specify (pfSense) can only protect itself, certainly not from anything else...

    Why do you think it is constantly being developed?

    I’m not even talking about the fact that you’re not going to get anything new because of package dependencies


  • @daddygo oops :P , I might consider using some parts to build a better system, i wanted to use this as it looked like a fun project. at least for what im doing it just going to block unwated traffic to game servers on a 100mb connection the OS and rest of it will not be publicly faceing.
    if you have any ideas how to flash its OS/bios id appricae it.


  • @dafoxx said in PFsense legacy install on Firebox X1000:

    @daddygo oops :P , I might consider using some parts to build a better system, i wanted to use this as it looked like a fun project. at least for what im doing it just going to block unwated traffic to game servers on a 100mb connection the OS and rest of it will not be publicly faceing.
    if you have any ideas how to flash its OS/bios id appricae it.

    From here:
    https://forum.netgate.com/post/307922
    I would steer clear of the X500, X700, X1000 as they have the rubbish realtek nics the newer e-series boxes have broadcom's IIRC

    If that's true. You have a "unsupported CPU" with "lousy" Network cards.

    A Doctor would say : Sorry ... But it's time to let it go

    /Bingo


  • @bingo600 said in PFsense legacy install on Firebox X1000:

    A Doctor would say : Sorry ... But it's time to let it go

    it's a little strong anyway, but it's true 😉


  • @dafoxx said in PFsense legacy install on Firebox X1000:

    as it looked like a fun project.

    it's dangerous because we're told "your ass is out in the shop window", hihihihihi

    there is so much good and cheap stuff (HW for NGFW/pfSense) you can use, look for these 😉

    +++edit:

    @Dafoxx "block unwated traffic to game servers on a 100mb connection the OS and rest of it will not be publicly faceing."

    the philosophy is bad because when it comes to your safety, you have to do everything

  • Netgate Administrator

    Yes, as others have said, that is 32bit and there is no current (secure) pfSense image that will run on it. And yes even when 2.3.5 was current the Realtek NICs and Pentium 3 era (yes really) CPU in that did not make it a great target. The -e series had Marvell NICs but they too were 32bit so also now obsolete.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20171205175929/https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#X-Core

    There is no BIOS flashing or even configuring required to boot an OS on that. I'm sure it would rin OpenWRT just fine if you wanted a project. 😉

    Steve


  • @stephenw10 Lucky the unit had bought had 30 return on it, so sent that and the extras with it back, managed to get a R210 for obviously more but its I know to work those :)
    Looking change its CPU to something low power.


  • @dafoxx said in PFsense legacy install on Firebox X1000:

    managed to get a R210

    On this R210 will be a bit tricky to install pfSense, but not impossible.
    (we use R210II for this very reason)

    there is only one add-on space (slot) on it (PCIe), so you have to choose between: 2 pcs. eth. interface (LOM) will be or the SATA speed will be only 3GB / s
    (MOBO SATA port only 3GB/s or + add-on H200 6GB/s)

    This "iron" loves Broadcom-based DELL NICs, they can upgrade to FW
    (Broadcom BCM5709)

    There are many compatibility problems with other manufacturers' NICs.

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  • Netgate Administrator

    Seems like a pretty easy choice, pfSense doesn't really need drive speed.


  • @stephenw10 Yeah, SSD will last for years.


  • Thanks for the response guys though, i dint have high hopes for it.
    Cheers!


  • just an update I guess.
    Have installed PFsense to a PCI riser -64gb Kingston M.2 SSD
    Removed the horrible raid card and 160gb SAS disks. it was a heck of a job updating its firmware, but its fairly quiet with BMC and bios update and got rid of ther ebay smell from it.
    Seem's to be around 40w being on so its already less then the firebox just being on. this R210 came with a X3430, but ill look at getting a L chip to lower the number abit.
    Im pleased I managed to get 24 port WS-2950-24 from work.

    Dafoxx