<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">SG-5100 running 23.01 (running zfs) had this disk usage (on 21May):</p>
<pre><code>Command output: SDD_Status (/bin/df -hi)
Filesystem                            Size    Used   Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused  Mounted on
pfSense/ROOT/default                  **4.0G**    1.5G    2.5G    38%     50k  5.2M    1%   /
</code></pre>
<p dir="auto">After upgrade to 23.05 I now have what seems to me as a large loss of free space:</p>
<pre><code>Filesystem                            Size    Used   Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused  Mounted on
pfSense/ROOT/default                  **2.7G**    1.7G    1.0G    62%     49k  2.1M    2%   /
</code></pre>
<p dir="auto">Note the SDD Size is suddenly 2.7G rather than 4.0G.  What is going on here?<br />
Is there some overhead that 'df' did not detect in 23.01 but no detects in 23.05?  Or is my SDD suddenly deciding to croak (31 days after my warranty ran out)?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.netgate.com/topic/180348/why-did-my-4g-sdd-become-a-smaller-size-after-upgrade</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 20:06:01 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.netgate.com/topic/180348.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 05:03:53 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade? on Thu, 25 May 2023 16:48:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/gertjan">@<bdi>Gertjan</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/1106841">Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade?</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">I get it, as I said the same thing to myself</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">That was interesting view of widgets.  I was unaware of zfs widget (I try not to fiddle with my pfSense, it usually gets me in trouble).  So I loaded the zfs widget and it shows me an entirely different view of my system (6G size on 4G sdd?).  I still don't understand why my system changed from 38% of 4G to 62% of 2.7G but at least I'm relieved to know that my sdd is not weird.  I better read more about zfs.</p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="/assets/uploads/files/1685032589183-widget.png" alt="widget.png" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106852</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106852</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[JonH]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 16:48:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade? on Thu, 25 May 2023 16:06:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jonh">@<bdi>JonH</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/1106829">Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade?</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">Don't have to tell me that.  When I purchased my SG-5100 they said this is all it gets</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">I get it, as I said the same thing to myself : I've bougt a 4100, and waited until the "max' version came out : same device, with a 'normal' drive (110 Gb).</p>
<p dir="auto">I've nothing an my pfSense : no big packages.<br />
True, as I fool around with the system, dozens of snaps hots :</p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="/assets/uploads/files/1685030708418-f9762ce0-37e8-4eda-86a2-0c2dc5f253e4-image.png" alt="f9762ce0-37e8-4eda-86a2-0c2dc5f253e4-image.png" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" /></p>
<p dir="auto">I could probably regain 4+ Gbytes easily.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106841</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106841</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gertjan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 16:06:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade? on Thu, 25 May 2023 15:43:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/robbiett">@<bdi>RobbieTT</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/1106727">Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade?</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">Hopefully this will give you a better overview as it is a bit confusing.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Thanks, you are correct. It is confusing.  The geom command shows 2 geo names and I just don't get it.  But I will research this.</p>
<p dir="auto">What really messes with my head is that 23.01 dashboard mounted disk widget  showed 38% used in 4G and after upgrade to 23.05 it is 62% used in 2.7G.</p>
<p dir="auto">I have not restarted after 23.05 booted itself after install and I will get to that later when I can get to that.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106834</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106834</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[JonH]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 15:43:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade? on Thu, 25 May 2023 15:31:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/gertjan">@<bdi>Gertjan</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/1106713">Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade?</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">Btw : 4 Gbytes for a system drive is ... very small.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Don't have to tell me that.  When I purchased my SG-5100 they said this is all it gets.    Since it was replacing a dead 20G 2440 I was not exactly happy about that.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106829</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106829</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[JonH]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 15:31:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade? on Thu, 25 May 2023 08:13:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jonh">@<bdi>JonH</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/1106710">Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade?</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">It does not answer were did the total disk space that was 4.0G and now 2.7G go?<br />
So still wondering about the 1.3G that seem to be 'missing'.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Sometimes we are divided by a common language and I appreciate that you asking about the total or actual disk size displayed and not necessarily how it is being used.  I too had a similar question when testing a particularly large SSD with ZFS (and what ZFS 'takes' for itself) and the various ways it is displayed and calculated.</p>
<p dir="auto">A couple of commands that helped me digest what is going on [Intel Optane <strong>64GB</strong> SSD plus the internal MMC]:</p>
<p dir="auto"><code>geom disk list</code></p>
<pre><code>Geom name: nvd0
Providers:
1. Name: nvd0
   Mediasize: 58977157120 (55G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Mode: r3w3e6
   descr: INTEL MEMPEK1J064GA
   lunid: 5cd2e44545c10100
   ident: PHBT908600LK064Q
   rotationrate: 0
   fwsectors: 0
   fwheads: 0

Geom name: mmcsd0
Providers:
1. Name: mmcsd0
   Mediasize: 15678308352 (15G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 512
   Stripeoffset: 0
   Mode: r0w0e0
   descr: MMCHC TB2916 9.0 SN 29E95A78 MFG 09/2020 by 112 0x0000
   ident: 29E95A78
   rotationrate: 0
   fwsectors: 0
   fwheads: 0

Geom name: mmcsd0boot0
Providers:
1. Name: mmcsd0boot0
   Mediasize: 4194304 (4.0M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 512
   Stripeoffset: 0
   Mode: r0w0e0
   descr: MMCHC TB2916 9.0 SN 29E95A78 MFG 09/2020 by 112 0x0000
   ident: 29E95A78
   rotationrate: 0
   fwsectors: 0
   fwheads: 0

Geom name: mmcsd0boot1
Providers:
1. Name: mmcsd0boot1
   Mediasize: 4194304 (4.0M)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Stripesize: 512
   Stripeoffset: 0
   Mode: r0w0e0
   descr: MMCHC TB2916 9.0 SN 29E95A78 MFG 09/2020 by 112 0x0000
   ident: 29E95A78
   rotationrate: 0
   fwsectors: 0
   fwheads: 0

</code></pre>
<p dir="auto"><code>df -a</code></p>
<pre><code>Filesystem                         512-blocks    Used     Avail Capacity  Mounted on
pfSense/ROOT/default                 95088041 2946216  92141825     3%    /
devfs                                       2       2         0   100%    /dev
/dev/gpt/efiboot0                      532352   19200    513152     4%    /boot/efi
pfSense/var                          92176545   34720  92141825     0%    /var
pfSense/tmp                          92142537     712  92141825     0%    /tmp
pfSense/home                         92142017     192  92141825     0%    /home
pfSense                              92142017     192  92141825     0%    /pfSense
pfSense/var/log                      92149641    7816  92141825     0%    /var/log
pfSense/var/cache                    92142033     208  92141825     0%    /var/cache
pfSense/var/tmp                      92142097     272  92141825     0%    /var/tmp
pfSense/var/db                       92202713   60888  92141825     0%    /var/db
pfSense/reservation                 103014248     192 103014056     0%    /pfSense/reservation
pfSense/var/empty                    92142017     192  92141825     0%    /var/empty
pfSense/ROOT/default/cf              92145545    3720  92141825     0%    /cf
pfSense/ROOT/default/var_cache_pkg   92808369  666544  92141825     1%    /var/cache/pkg
pfSense/ROOT/default/var_db_pkg      92157081   15256  92141825     0%    /var/db/pkg
tmpfs                                    8192     296      7896     4%    /var/run
devfs                                       2       2         0   100%    /var/dhcpd/dev
</code></pre>
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<p dir="auto">Hopefully this will give you a better overview as it is a bit confusing.</p>
<p dir="auto"><img src="https://forum.netgate.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/2615.png?v=717669fab53" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--coffee" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="☕" alt="☕" />️</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106727</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106727</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RobbieTT]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 08:13:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade? on Thu, 25 May 2023 06:53:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jonh">@<bdi>JonH</bdi></a></p>
<p dir="auto">The snap shots are a reason for why available disk space goes down.<br />
Good news and bad news : there are more reasons.</p>
<p dir="auto">To be sure I won't get bitten by the "out of disk errors", as these will bring the system down, <a href="https://www.test-domaine.fr/munin/brit-hotel-fumel.net/pfsense.brit-hotel-fumel.net/index.html#disk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow ugc">I monitor it</a>.</p>
<p dir="auto">To get back all disk space : easy : reboot.</p>
<p dir="auto">Then : use the command line, and 'play' with the df (disk free) command.<br />
For example, you'll find them on this forum.</p>
<p dir="auto">Btw : 4 Gbytes for a system drive is ... very small.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106713</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106713</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gertjan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 06:53:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade? on Thu, 25 May 2023 06:20:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/gertjan">@<bdi>Gertjan</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/1106704">Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade?</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">Before you upgraded, pfSense did something for you.<br />
It created a system snap shot.<br />
Go here to see them : SystemBoot &gt; Environments<br />
The list shown can grow .... and thus allocate space on the disk.<br />
Eventually, you can 'clean' the list.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">I did wonder about a snapshot but I did not know where it was and prior upgrades have never 'disappeared' 1.3G.  So yes, the boot Environment tab shows 4.1G space and that does give me a sense of relief.</p>
<p dir="auto">It does not answer were did the total disk space that was 4.0G and now 2.7G go?<br />
Boot Environment has the below, and there is certainly not 1.3G space accounted for.  It shows 23.05 is using space on 4.1G created in 2022 and 3 other entries that total 208k.  Sorry for the wrapping, maybe it will come out ok when I post.</p>
<pre><code>Name	Base Version	Created	Last Booted	Space	Description	Actions
default	  23.05      2022-10-20 12:14  2023-05-24 16:59	4.10G	-	    
auto-default-20230215174159	22.05	2023-02-15 17:41	-	24K	Automatically created by system update	    
quick-20230302135045	23.01	2023-03-02 13:50	-	152K	-	    
auto-default-20230524165128	23.01	2023-05-24 16:51	-	32K	Automatically created by system update	
</code></pre>
<p dir="auto">So still wondering about the 1.3G that seem to be 'missing'.</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks for the tip on updating from a snapshot, seems better than a restore from backup.  Now I just have to remember to do this next time.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106710</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106710</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[JonH]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 06:20:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Why did my 4G SDD become a smaller size after upgrade? on Thu, 25 May 2023 05:44:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/jonh">@<bdi>JonH</bdi></a></p>
<p dir="auto">Before you upgraded, pfSense did something for you.<br />
It created a system snap shot.<br />
Go here to see them : SystemBoot &gt; Environments</p>
<p dir="auto">The list shown can grow .... and thus allocate space on the disk.<br />
Eventually, you can 'clean' the list.</p>
<p dir="auto">When you decide to install pfSense 23.05, I advice you to create yourself a snap shot.<br />
Give it smart description, like : the date and the pfSense version to be installed.<br />
Then : important : re boot into this newly created snap shot.<br />
Upgrade/update pfSense.</p>
<p dir="auto">If issues : re boot into the previous snapshot, and your back on square one.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106704</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.netgate.com/post/1106704</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gertjan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 05:44:39 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>