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    New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!

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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan @drewsaur
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      @drewsaur said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

      and that’s not a RC ...

      This is not an RC (2.8.0) thread. See Topic at top of page. It's Plus stuff here 😊

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        drewsaur @Gertjan
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        @Gertjan said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

        @drewsaur said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

        and that’s not a RC ...

        This is not an RC (2.8.0) thread. See Topic at top of page. It's Plus stuff here 😊

        I am aware of that. My comment was in relation to another post above.

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        • keyserK
          keyser Rebel Alliance
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          This must be one of the longest BETA periods for pfsense. The first BETA was released in early february as far as I remember. That’s almost 4 months now, and still no RC.

          Is it going to replace/be renamed to fit the schedule of a 25.07 release, and simply bump all planned versions one .xx?

          Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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            netblues @keyser
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            @keyser If betas uncover issues, they need to be fixed, There isn't much value pushing out half baked code and then release fixes that need to be tested in production environments AGAIN.
            Rebooting firewalls in production with new firmware is never for the faint at heart.

            Additionally 25.03 is in sync (if not based) on 2.8ce (which has a release candidate too)
            At least freebsd version is the same (and had the same issues too).

            For what is worth, 25.07 might get skipped and go for an early November update, (25.03 stands for March 2025) but in essence this is rather irrelevant since its the features (and stability) that counts, not the versions.

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              SteveITS Galactic Empire @netblues
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              @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

              Additionally 25.03 is in sync (if not based) on 2.8ce (which has a release candidate too)

              But 2.8 has been released, many many minutes ago! (/s)

              My comment a couple years back was that using year.month notation would always imply a release date and thus “get Netgate into trouble” by setting expectations, three times per year. IOW, if it was named “25.A” we’d just be waiting.

              Microsoft went through that with Windows 10 and eventually changed to two releases a year, then H1/H2 numbering, then just H2 with new features being added along the way.

              Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
              When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
              Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                netblues @SteveITS
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                @SteveITS Comparing Microsoft to Netgate has its own merits :)
                Do you really think that expect from the ones that lurk in this forum, anyone has a clue what 25.03 really stands for?

                In any case its nice to see 2.8ce released, and its rater safe to expect a plus rc really soon.

                I guess all those comments regarding abandoned ce version are now irrelevant too.

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                  netblues @netblues
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                  @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                  @SteveITS Comparing Microsoft to Netgate has its own merits :)
                  Do you really think that apart from the ones that lurk in this forum, anyone has a clue what 25.03 really stands for?

                  In any case its nice to see 2.8ce released, and its rater safe to expect a plus rc really soon.

                  I guess all those comments regarding abandoned ce version are now irrelevant too.

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                    SteveITS Galactic Empire @netblues
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                    @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                    all those comments regarding abandoned ce version are now irrelevant too.

                    Are you kidding?? There's no source code available for 2.9! :(

                    Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                    Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                      netblues @SteveITS
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                      @SteveITS So does this make it an abandoned project?

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                      • GertjanG
                        Gertjan @SteveITS
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                        @SteveITS

                        No source (code ?) for 2.9 ?

                        Took me one click to find this https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense :

                        71593a99-41b3-4df9-9210-b2945c4fdece-image.png

                        and just for fun, see what marcos-ng wrote a couple of hours ago : it's a solution for the IGMP firewall log issue, see elsewhere on the forum.
                        So, that one didn't make it into 2.8.0 and will be part a future version, let's say "2.9.0".

                        I probably just listed the first official System path for 2.8.0 😊
                        And because pfSense plus 25.0x will come out later on this solution will get included.

                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          ITSGS_
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                          I just updated my SG4200 to 25.03. BETA which worked flawlessly. I'm using ACME, DDNS, pfBlockerNG, OpenVPN, Unbound. Also switched to new PPoE method. It fixed the Ram Drive size and it seems that I no longer have problems connecting to MS Teams. In the past couple of months I had to update (change MTU or something else) my PPoE WAN Interface to be able to join MS Teams meetings. After 1-2 hours I had to reset the WAN Interface again to be able to join again. Up until today I was not able to figure out what it was, but it seems that it is fixed now.

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                            netblues @ITSGS_
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                            @ITSGS_ Rest assured, your issues with teams and previous versions have nothing to do with pfsense per se or pppoe. Far too many users are doing exaclty the same, for years now.

                            These are provider things, that just happened to be fixed at the same time period.

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                              ITSGS_ @netblues
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                              @netblues I'm not too sure about that. My neighbour is working at the same company and has the same internet provider but a different router. He had no issues. I just wanted to let the internet know in case someone has the same problem.

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                                netblues @ITSGS_
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                                @ITSGS_ If there are mtu issues then nothing really works.
                                Same goes for disconnections.
                                In a ppp connection it always take two to tango
                                One is the isp bras and the other is the pppoe client.

                                Since the protocol is far too old to have issues, switching to the new, multi kernel optimized version, can't solve anything on the mtu or stability side too.

                                I don't say what you observed is untrue.
                                However doing a root cause analysis here seems impossible.

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                                  ITSGS_ @netblues
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                                  @netblues All true what you said. I do not know the cause. I neither captured packages or did anything else. It's just "a guess". But the information that it works after switching to the BETA might help somebody searching for a "easy" solution.

                                  Next time I won't be lazy and start a topic about it. :-)

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                                  • GertjanG
                                    Gertjan
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                                    The final Beta ? :

                                    5eb0aa1b-6b41-4aca-a0f7-44336d7ca886-image.png

                                    fingers crossed : the RC will be coming out soon now.

                                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                      netblues @Gertjan
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                                      @Gertjan The final countdown (the song)
                                      Upgraded (dirty) under kvm.
                                      No issues

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                                      • GertjanG
                                        Gertjan
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                                        One minor thing that might need some looking after :
                                        The 'console' boot sequence needs some polishing.

                                        This :

                                        Syncing OpenVPN settings...done.
                                        ovpn0: changing name to 'ovpns1'
                                        Configuring firewall......done.
                                        Starting PFLOG...done.
                                        Setting up gateway monitors...done.
                                        Setting up static routes...igc0: link state changed to UP
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.113521+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 20265 - - /rc.linkup: Ignoring link event during boot sequence.
                                        done.
                                        Setting up DNSs...
                                        arp: 192.168.1.20 moved from 28:70:4e:62:31:5d to 0c:ea:14:44:4a:38 on igc0
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.415824+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 20265 - - /rc.linkup: Ignoring link event during boot sequence.
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.529452+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 20265 - - /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: Info: starting on ovpns1.
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.529968+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 20265 - - /rc.newwanip: rc.newwanip: on (IP address: 192.168.3.1) (interface: VPNS[opt3]) (real interface: ovpns1).
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.757933+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 580 - - /rc.linkup: Ignoring link event during boot sequence.
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.841945+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 581 - - /rc.newwanipv6: rc.newwanipv6: Info: starting on ix3 due to RELEASE.
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.843195+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 581 - - /rc.newwanipv6: rc.newwanipv6: on (IP address: 2a01:cb19:dead:beef:92ec:77ff:fe29:392a) (interface: wan) (real interface: ix3).
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.855015+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 20265 - - /rc.newwanip: Removing static route for monitor2001:41d0:2:927b::3 and adding a new route through fe80::46d4:54ff:fe2a:3600%ix3
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.872420+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 20265 - - /rc.newwanip: Removing static route for monitor94.23.251.218 and adding a new route through 192.168.10.1
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.907848+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 581 - - /rc.newwanipv6: Removing static route for monitor2001:41d0:2:927b::3 and adding a new route through fe80::46d4:54ff:fe2a:3600%ix3
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:35.930399+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 581 - - /rc.newwanipv6: Removing static route for monitor94.23.251.218 and adding a new route through 192.168.10.1
                                        Starting DNS Resolver...2025-06-11T09:25:36.991434+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 581 - - /rc.newwanipv6: The command '/usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN_DHCP6 -B 2a01:cb19:dead:beef:92ec:77ff:fe29:392a -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP6~2a01:cb19                                                                                                              :dead:beef:92ec:77ff:fe29:392a~2001:41d0:2:927b::3.pid -u /var/run/dpinger_WAN_DHCP6~2a01:cb19:dead:beef:92ec:77ff:fe29:392a~2001:                                                                                                              41d0:2:927b::3.sock -C "/etc/rc.gateway_alarm" -d 1 -s 500 -l 2000 -t 60000 -A 1000 -D 500 -L 75  2001:41d0:2:927b::3 >/dev/null                                                                                                              ' returned exit code '1', the output was ''
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:36.991546+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 581 - - /rc.newwanipv6: Error starting gateway monitor for WAN_DHCP6
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:37.732088+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 82005 - - /rc.newwanipv6: rc.newwanipv6: Info: starting on ix3 due to REQUEST.
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:37.734539+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 82005 - - /rc.newwanipv6: rc.newwanipv6: on (IP address: 2a01:cb19:dead:beef:92ec:77ff:fe29:392a) (interface: wan) (real interface: ix3).
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:37.769153+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 82005 - - /rc.newwanipv6: Removing static route for monitor 2001:41d0:2:927b::3 and adding a new route through fe80::46d4:54ff:fe2a:3600%ix3
                                        2025-06-11T09:25:37.786286+02:00 pfSense.bhf.tld php-fpm 82005 - - /rc.newwanipv6: Removing static route for monitor 94.23.251.218 and adding a new route through 192.168.10.1
                                        done.
                                        Synchronizing user settings...done.
                                        Configuring CRON...done.
                                        Starting NTP Server...done.
                                        Starting webConfigurator...done.
                                        Starting Kea DHCP service...done.
                                        Starting Kea DHCPv6 service...done.
                                        
                                        ...
                                        

                                        The output of "/rc.newwanipv6" and "/rc.newwanip" needs to go to the system log, not on the the console output during this booting phase.
                                        All these lines are informative, there are no warnings or errors.

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                          ITSGS_
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                                          Just upgraded from last BETA to the current one. No issues so far.

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                                          • GertjanG
                                            Gertjan
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                                            Another one :

                                            Current Base System : 25.03.b.20250610.1659
                                            The "Juin 10" version is now installed.
                                            Using a 4100 MAX : all is well.

                                            Mandatory packages :
                                            
                                            Netgate_Firmware_Upgrade 	23.05.01 
                                            Nexus 	25.03.b.20250610.1659 	
                                            aws-wizard 	0.12 	
                                            ipsec-profile-wizard 	1.2.4 
                                            openvpn-client-export 	1.9.5 
                                            openvpn-client-import 	1.2_3 
                                            System_Patches	2.2.21_2 (why is this package 'optional' ?)
                                            
                                            My packages : the classic GUI / quality of live stuff :
                                            acme 	0.9_1 
                                            Avahi 	2.2_7 
                                            Backup 	0.6.3 
                                            Cron 	0.3.8_6 
                                            Filer 	0.60.6_9 
                                            Notes 	0.2.9_5 
                                            nut 	2.8.2_5 
                                            Shellcmd 	1.0.5_4 
                                            
                                            Not really needed : very light DNSBL setup / Python mode :
                                            pfBlockerNG-devel 	3.2.7
                                            
                                            Because I like to things the hard way (auth captive portal):
                                            freeradius3 	0.15.14
                                            

                                            This is a production device (company).

                                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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