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    HTTPS from private subnet to internet doesn't work on AWS

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      maury33308
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      Hello,
      I have an AWS VPC with 2 subnets, one public, one private, with PFSense running in the public subnet.

      In the private subnet I have an EC2 instance from which I need to access the internet via port 443. From this machine, I can ping public sites, and curl them as well with HTTP. But HTTPS hangs and eventually times out.

      With tcpdump running on the 2 interfaces of the PFSense server, I see the HTTPS messages arrive on the LAN interface, but they never appear on the WAN interface.

      Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix this ?

      Thanks,

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        Gertjan @maury33308
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        @maury33308

        The pfSense LAN firewall : is there a firewall rule that allows : TCP, source any port, destination port '443', any destination ?
        The rule you've found on the LAN interface when pfSense was installed will handle this traffic just fine.

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.

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          maury33308 @Gertjan
          last edited by

          @Gertjan if the provided rule worked, I wouldn't have post this message...

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            tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @maury33308
            last edited by

            @maury33308 Why don't you post some screenshots showing ruleset/s, blocked traffic logs, etc.?

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              ghubjnkl Banned @maury33308
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                maury33308
                last edited by

                Here are images of the NAT and Rules. I don't see anything in the logs about blocked traffic.Floating rules.JPG LAN rules.JPG NAT Outound.JPG NAT Port Forwarding.JPG WAN rule.JPG

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                  tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @maury33308
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                  @maury33308 You're doing way too much without confirming whether or not what you're doing is even having the intended effect (or any effect whatsoever for that matter).

                  Out-of-the-box, pfSense is 'default-allow' on the LAN interface.

                  I'd start over if I were you.

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                    maury33308
                    last edited by

                    I can ping and send HTTP messages and it works. It's the HTTPS messages that hang and never get out.

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                      tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @maury33308
                      last edited by

                      @maury33308 Then you've broken the default behavior.

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                        tinfoilmatt LAYER 8
                        last edited by

                        For the record, what private subnets (i.e., RFC1918 addresses) are you using and where?

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                          maury33308
                          last edited by

                          Does the fact that I moved the WebConfigurator to port 8443 so I can allow incoming HTTPS to me internal servers?

                          Everything I have done is visible in the screen shots above. If I broke something, which rule is it?

                          Is there something specific on the AWS side that could be blocking the messages?

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                            tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @maury33308
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                            @maury33308 Confirm your WAN and LAN subnets.

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                              maury33308
                              last edited by

                              VPC: 192.168.0.0/23
                              WAN: 192.168.0.0/24
                              LAN: 192.168.1.0/24

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                                tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @maury33308
                                last edited by

                                @maury33308 Delete all your LAN interface rules since they're unnecessary. Post an updated screenshot.

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                                  maury33308
                                  last edited by

                                  As you suggested, I'm going to run up a new PFSense instance and see what happens. I there anything I need to do to allow incoming HTTPS traffic to be passed to and handled by my internal server ?

                                  Just to be sure, the DNS for my website should point to the public address linked to to the WAN interface of the PFSense machine?

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                                    tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @maury33308
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                                    @maury33308 said in HTTPS from private subnet to internet doesn't work on AWS:

                                    I[s] there anything I need to do to allow incoming HTTPS traffic to be passed to and handled by my internal server?

                                    Yes. WAN inbound is 'default-deny.'

                                    the DNS for my website should point to the public address linked to to the WAN interface of the PFSense machine?

                                    Not enough information to answer.

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                                      SteveITS Rebel Alliance @maury33308
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                                      @maury33308 said in HTTPS from private subnet to internet doesn't work on AWS:

                                      Does the fact that I moved the WebConfigurator to port 8443 so I can allow incoming HTTPS to me internal servers?

                                      Is your question here about incoming or outgoing connections? They are different and unrelated. Also unrelated to the pfSense web GUI listening port.

                                      Is there something specific on the AWS side that could be blocking the messages?

                                      Firewall? To confirm, you’re using the Plus instance? [https://www.netgate.com/pfsense-plus-software/how-to-buy#AWS]

                                      To upgrade, select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings. When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, CPU, and/or disk speed.
                                      Only install packages for your version of pfSense.
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                                        maury33308
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                                        Ok, I ran up a new PFSense instance using the same subnets. When I connect to my private server, Ping, HTTP and HTTPS all hang when trying to access an external address (ex; Google).

                                        Here is the network diagram:
                                        network (public).JPG

                                        The NAT rules are empty for both Port Forwarding and Outbound. Here are the rules:
                                        LAN Rules (new).JPG WAN Rules (new).JPG

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                                          tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @maury33308
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                                          @maury33308 What 'Outbound NAT Mode'?

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                                            maury33308 @tinfoilmatt
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                                            @tinfoilmatt Automatic for now

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