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    pfSense Plus vs CE when migrating to new hardware

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    • TAC57T Offline
      TAC57
      last edited by

      I’ve been running pfSense for roughly 10 years in a home / homelab environment.

      I currently have three installations of pfSense Plus:

      • Two very old backup systems
      • One main system running on a ZimaBoard SBC, which has just failed (the board boots and runs only if I disconnect the two SSDs)

      I’m now looking to move my primary firewall to newer hardware.

      From what I understand, pfSense Plus is no longer available for free on user-supplied hardware, and Plus is now free only on Netgate appliances. That would mean my options are either:

      • Pay for pfSense Plus on new hardware, or
      • Switch to pfSense CE

      My questions:

      • Is it fair to characterize moving from pfSense Plus to pfSense CE as a “downgrade,” or is CE still considered functionally equivalent for most non-commercial use cases?
      • Are my existing pfSense Plus installations tied to the Netgate Device ID (NDI) of the original hardware they were installed on, meaning they cannot be transferred to new hardware?
      • If the hardware fails, is there any supported path to move an existing Plus installation to replacement hardware without purchasing a subscription?
        I’m not opposed to paying for software when it makes sense, but I want to understand the intended path forward for long-time homelab users who originally deployed Plus when it was available for that use case.

      Thanks for any clarification.

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      • SteveITSS Offline
        SteveITS Rebel Alliance @TAC57
        last edited by

        @TAC57 this keeps losing my reply

        feature list: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/general/plus.html#benefits-of-pfsense-plus-software

        Re NDI yes it changes with hardware particularly NICs. From posts here Netgate may move it once? If you plan to change hardware I suggest doing so first. I’ve read Netgate may change how licenses are handled.

        To upgrade, select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings. When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, CPU, and/or disk speed.
        Only install packages for your version of pfSense.
        Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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        • tinfoilmattT Offline
          tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @TAC57
          last edited by

          @TAC57 said in pfSense Plus vs CE when migrating to new hardware:

          Plus is now free only on Netgate appliances

          I don't believe this is true. The so-called "Netgate Installer" is available for download here, costs nothing (although a store 'checkout' must be performed), and you would use the "AMD64 Memstick USB" version for "All other Intel/AMD 64-bit" hardware.

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            SteveITS Rebel Alliance @tinfoilmatt
            last edited by

            @tinfoilmatt plus can be installed but needs a license.

            To upgrade, select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings. When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, CPU, and/or disk speed.
            Only install packages for your version of pfSense.
            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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            • tinfoilmattT Offline
              tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @SteveITS
              last edited by

              @SteveITS At what point do you have to pony up any money if the Netgate Installer is $0.00 at checkout?

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              • SteveITSS Offline
                SteveITS Rebel Alliance @tinfoilmatt
                last edited by SteveITS

                @tinfoilmatt https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/install/install-walkthrough.html#ineligible-device-prompt

                Edit: I think you are confusing access to the installer with a paid license. The installer is needed to install CE.

                To upgrade, select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings. When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, CPU, and/or disk speed.
                Only install packages for your version of pfSense.
                Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                • tinfoilmattT Offline
                  tinfoilmatt LAYER 8 @SteveITS
                  last edited by

                  @SteveITS said in pfSense Plus vs CE when migrating to new hardware:

                  I think you are confusing access to the installer with a paid license.

                  Did not realize Plus installation can only proceed with a paid, valid license at this point. Thanks for the link.

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                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Yup the installer will only offer Plus versions if the device is licensed for it. Otherwise it will show CE versions.

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