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    Askimet Sammfilter

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    • K Offline
      krabat
      last edited by

      Hi,

      I've a topic with my pfsense box and I've try to write a Question to this forum. First in the German forum and later in a English forum. But I cant send because the Askemet spam filter is blocking my posts.

      My question to the forum mod is, is it necessary to use a Content Spamfilter in a Forum who users posting much of technical content which's looking like spam?

      I hoped to find help with my major topic but it's not possible to send my post :-(

      Regards,
      Krabat

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      • GertjanG Offline
        Gertjan @krabat
        last edited by

        @krabat

        You just wrote a question, and posted in on the forum.

        This

        ...Forum who users posting much of technical content which's looking like spam?
        question is also the answer.

        If there wasn't a system to protect the forum, it would be 'obliterated' by fake posts.

        So, what about the other question ?

        ( if needed, post a link here, and use for example pastebin.com )

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.

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        • stephenw10S Offline
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Yup, that. Unfortunately.

          Without it the forum gets flooded by spam.

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          • johnpozJ Offline
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
            last edited by johnpoz

            As @stephenw10 mentions - it has happened a while back when askimet took a vacation.. We had to turn on mod approval for new user posts because we got hundreds and hundreds of use this number to call whatever etc type spam.. Woke up one morning to nothing but pages upon pages of the spam..

            We couldn't keep up with it.

            Even with it, I personally on some days will delete multiple spam posts. And we block quite a few bad IP ranges as well.. Which block thousands of hits an hour.

            While it could be better and have better controls, without it the forum would be pretty much useless.. Even if we went back to mod approval for new user posts.. It ends up being weeding through hundreds and hundreds of spam posts per 1 actual valid post.

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            If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
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            • johnpozJ Offline
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @krabat
              last edited by johnpoz

              @krabat On a side note - once you get to 5 rep points the likely hood of your posts being marked as spam, even with walls of text is way lower.

              There is a thread used somewhere asking to up to 5 reps.. I gave you one on this one so your up to 2 now ;) let me see if I can dig up that thread.

              edit: here you go post in this thread and should get you enough to get to 5.

              https://forum.netgate.com/topic/164452/getting-flagged-as-spam-by-akismet

              An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
              If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
              Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                krabat @johnpoz
                last edited by

                @johnpoz is ist enough to post in the thread you've send me to get an up vote?

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                • stephenw10S Offline
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  It is.

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                  • johnpozJ Offline
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @krabat
                    last edited by

                    @krabat yeah that works too ;) you just 5 - try your post now with your wall of text

                    An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                    If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                    Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                      krabat @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz It still doesn't work :-(
                      Well, it's a big text with much markups of config examples and console doings.

                      If I knew whats the no go for the spam filter is, I could edit my text.

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                        krabat @krabat
                        last edited by

                        Ok, I've deleted a not so important example from my text and now I could post it :-)

                        Thanks for help!

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @krabat
                          last edited by

                          @krabat said in Askimet Sammfilter:

                          If I knew whats the no go for the spam filter is

                          hahah - the problem with that sort of info, if its public knowledge what the filter is looking for or how it scores, etc.. Then the spammers know how to tweak their spam to sneak through the filters..

                          An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                          Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                          SG-4860 26.03 | Lab VMs 2.8.1, 26.03

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                            krabat @johnpoz
                            last edited by

                            @johnpoz Wouldn't it also be possible to moderate posts by new users?
                            That would mean significantly less stress for the user... OK, but possibly more work for the moderator ;-)

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @krabat
                              last edited by

                              @krabat said in Askimet Sammfilter:

                              but possibly more work for the moderator ;-)

                              When askimet had its issue a while back, we did go into mod approval mode and it was horrible.. I mean just pages upon pages of posts waiting to be approved where 99/100 of them where just spam.

                              What would be nice would be a way to whitelist a user - but it seems askimet at least with the forum software used here is pretty much a black box with almost no ability to tweak or configure.

                              I will agree with you it's far from perfect - but it does work for the most part, other than running into the situation you ran into.

                              An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                              If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                              Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                              SG-4860 26.03 | Lab VMs 2.8.1, 26.03

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                              • stephenw10S Offline
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                I think the rep level requirred is actually 8 so now you should be good. 😉

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 are there different levels for things? Or is 8 the new 5?

                                  An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                  If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                                  Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                                  SG-4860 26.03 | Lab VMs 2.8.1, 26.03

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                                  • stephenw10S Offline
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Yup 8 is the new 5 for marking as ham. Not sure when that changed.

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