I need help...
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Hello,
I have a question can my WAN section on my pfsense act as a vlan server, but I also need help with some other network problems I have, I'd like to ask if someone can give me a hand with a network diagram I want to implement into my pfsense setup -
@jhmc93 Define VLAN server? VPN?
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Inter-VLAN router maybe?
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@stephenw10 @johnpoz @SteveITS apologies... I wanna run pfsense WAN side as a vlan tagged server but I was wondering if the WAN ethernet cable will provide a VLAN tag to my managed switch but still have the wan provide access to the net, also I want to use that WAN tagged port talk to that switch and then connect the untagged section to my powerline adapter that goes up to my room and the vlan talk to my other switch upstairs which is also a VLAN capable switch. Hope this make sense...
If not I'll provide a drawn diagram -
@jhmc93 you can for sure use vlan tags on your "wan" interface on pfsense - and also run other vlans via that physical connection.
A drawing never a bad idea.
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@jhmc93 It would be just another interface. Though since it's in WAN there's not really anything preventing access to that VLAN is there? I suppose the ISP would need to pass tagged packets, which may be unlikely. And hopefully the switches and adapter would not be accessible from the Internet.
Can you not just connect the powerline adapter to another port on the pfSense, though? Why WAN?
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@jhmc93 does the wan or internet come into the managed switch that is connected to pfsense I take it.
That wouldn't have to be tagged coming into that switch.. But sure you could tag it into pfsense wan interface.
Curious why you are untagged into that switch from the powerline adapter.. It shouldn't strip tags so you could run tagged from your bottom vlan capable switch into your top one via the powerline adapter.. This would allow you to run multiple vlans between them..
In your current drawing that bottom vlan switch would really only be able to see 1 network, all in the same vlan.
Also I take it pfsense only has that 1 interface? or you are out of ports on the top vlan switch? Or sure you could run multiple connections into pfsense vs into just your wan interface.
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@johnpoz So the internet is in my room and my pfsense box is downstairs under the stairs... as it runs my media centre and other things, so the powerline goes from the internet upstairs into the powerline downstairs and then into my pfsense box
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@jhmc93 so the internet comes into the bottom switch? But your running untagged. So you want to put everything behind pfsense? If not what is pfsense going to do.. If you have stuff on the internet network and stuff also behind pfsense you have an asymmetrical mess..
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@johnpoz yes on that picture internet goes into bottom left switch, I thought If I could VLAN I could separate some networks but ye
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@jhmc93 you could do something like this
But with powerline adapters like that is going to be horrible performance most likely - what is is your internet speed? What speed do you see over your powerline adapters? Normally they are doing great if you can get 100mbps out of them.
You could then have things on your lan (behind pfsense) in either location.
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@johnpoz my net speed is 1GBPS and my poweline adapter are 1300mbps adapters
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@jhmc93 said in I need help...:
my poweline adapter are 1300mbps adapters
Which they are in no way going to actually provide ;) you would be lucky to see 600 over that to be honest.. And I would bet a large sum of money not even that.... Those are marketing numbers they use, like the PHY on wifi, you don't actually see those ;)
Put a device on one side of the powerline, and another on the other side and do a iperf test, or copy a file.. What do you get??
Can you run an actual wire, or maybe moca adapters (do you have coax that runs between the 2 locations) - while powerline do have use, and can work - they are never going to see the number on the box that is for damn sure.
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@johnpoz they run at around 300mbps
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@jhmc93 that is good to be honest, but no where near your gig internet.. So you could do such a setup, but your going to see a drastic drop in performance.
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@johnpoz so not the best idea then?
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@jhmc93 no not really.. Unless you like paying for gig internet and getting like 300 ;)
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Yeah you probably don't want to pass traffic over a powerline link that you don't have to.
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