[Solved] Port 53, 80, 443 always open on all interfaces
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@KOM:
By Running nmap to fingerprint it might also be helpful if it exposes what kind of device is responding.
Understand, but it's not a question what's responding as I see the pfSense login screen if I open https://WANIP from a foreign browser.
Capture might be helpful to see what's the situation on the VPN_US IP, as this is the only one which respond to port 53.
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Did you enable UPnP & NAT-PMP?
No, never touched that. Just checked it under Status - UPnP & NAT-PMP, it's disabled.
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If you are getting a response into WAN from the outside on 443 then you have a rule passing the same. Period.
You're not getting any weird "Can't load rules" errors or anything are you?I did a week ago, but it's disappeared by setting this value to 400 000:
System -> Advanced -> Firewall & NAT -> Maximum Table EntriesRead on the forum somewhere, that's the solution. I have no error since then.
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Figure out whatever address you are hitting pfSense from, packet capture on WAN filtered on that address and test again. While you're testing also look at the states filtered on that address. See what it's really doing.
- Switched to the GSM network again from my phone and checked my public IP
- Started a packet capture on WAN with filling the IP above to Host Address.
- Ran a portscan from the phone on 443 only
Result:
16:55:59.218056 IP PHONEPUBLICIP.54409 > WANIP.443: tcp 0
16:56:00.219797 IP PHONEPUBLICIP.54409 > WANIP.443: tcp 0
16:56:02.226128 IP PHONEPUBLICIP.54409 > WANIP.443: tcp 0 -
I see the pfSense login screen if I open https://WANIP from a foreign browser.
While on LAN or WAN? If you are on LAN and access your public address in a browser, pfSense will give you the GUI even though it isn't accessible from WAN.
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@KOM:
While on LAN or WAN?
While I'm on WAN on a very different network. So Webconfigurator is exposed to WAN attacks at the moment which really concerns me. I will put WebConfigurator to another port to decrease the risk as 80 and 443 are open from WAN.
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That packet capture shows nothing but SYNs.
Again, if you can get to the WebGUI you have a rule passing the traffic.
Look at the states. See what's really happening.
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If he was getting to his gui from his wan, then his packet capture would show answer, ie syn,ack - like derelict says it only shows syn…
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I'm wondering if he's got the bogonsv6 issue and his ruleset has failed to load?
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I'm wondering if he's got the bogonsv6 issue and his ruleset has failed to load?
Already covered.
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If he was getting to his gui from his wan, then his packet capture would show answer, ie syn,ack - like derelict says it only shows syn…
That test with the capture was just a port scan from the mobile phone to WAN IP. There was no Webconfig access from the browser on https://WANIP. I'm going to do additional tests now.
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Dude if you send a syn, you would get back a syn,ack if anything was listening o that port. That is how it works.
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@KOM:
If a scan of your IP always shows open ports for 80,443 then I would tend to believe that it's hitting your ISP's equipment somehow.
You made me curious about that scenario, so simply switched off the pfSense box, then did another port scan… well... I would say portscan is not so useful as I saw the same result, 80 and 443 were open. When scanned the VPN_US public IP, I got the same result 53, 80, 443 seemed to be open. You're right, this is some equipment of the provider.
However this still doesn't change the fact, I'm able to reach pfSense Webconfigurator on 443 from the WAN. Now, I put WebConfigurator to a high port, therefore at least the login page cannot be called fron the WAN, even if 443 is open.
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Dude how would that be? If pfsense is off and something is answer 443 which is NOT pfsense… How exactly are you then access 443 with pfsense webgui?
This scenario comes up ever couple of weeks or so where some users says my wan is open.. Either something in front of it, or they are checking from the lan side. Or they actually opened it on their wan rules.
Here is the thing about your VPN as well - there are a few vpns that will port forward down the tunnel. But it will NEVER be the standard ports.. Its always some high port that you have to configure on their site for your account, etc.
Send me your IP and port your listening on in a PM and will check if can get to your web gui..
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Did you try to log into the WebUI, maybe your provider is using pfSense too.
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Dude how would that be? If pfsense is off and something is answer 443 which is NOT pfsense… How exactly are you then access 443 with pfsense webgui?
Sorry, if I was not clear. Those were different tests otherwise I had to be drunk or something…
1. pfSense box off - start portscan from a mobile provider IP to WAN IP - result: 80, 443 seems to be open.
2. pfSense box on - start portscan from a mobile provider IP to WAN IP - result: 80, 443 seems to be open.
3. pfsense box on - open https://WANIP from a mobile provider IP from the browser of the phone - result: pfSense login page -
Send me this wanIP and port your using… I want to see this... Since your rules do not show anything open. And they are intercepting it clearly since you say you show it open when pfsense is off..
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Did you try to log into the WebUI, maybe your provider is using pfSense too.
I tried to call http://VPN_US_IP again from the mobile browser and I still see this nginx forbidden page. So there is no magic here, that page comes from the box of the provider. In the meantime I got a very different public IP when reconnected to VPN_US, so it's not my pfSense box for sure. Apologise to everyone, this completely confused me as I thought the error page comes from the pfSense box.
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Yeah scanning your IP I don't see 80 or 443 open at all… Nothing comes back on those ports.. NOTHING!!!
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3. pfsense box on - open https://WANIP from a mobile provider IP from the browser of the phone - result: pfSense login page
I simply cannot reproduce this anymore since I put the webconfigurator to high port then back to 443. I'm just wondering, maybe I was distrait and my mobile connected back to the local network when tested… don't have a better idea.
Ok, let me summarize what's figured out so far:
Symptom1:
Portscan shows ports 80, 443 open when WAN IP scanned from the internet
Portscan shows ports 53, 80, 443 open when VPN_US_IP scanned from the internetCause1 (probably): this comes from the boxes of the ISP and VPN provider as portscan gives the same result with powered off pfSense box.
Symptom2:
when http://VPN_US_IP called from a browser from the internet, nginx 403 forbidden error page appearsCause2 (at least that's my understanding): the error page comes from the box of the VPN provider
Symptom3: when https://WAN_IP called from an external browser, pfSense login page visible
Cause3: the test was not accurate, the client probably connected back to the access point while testing, then pfSense catched that (even if the WAN IP used).
