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    • NogBadTheBadN
      NogBadTheBad
      last edited by

      @IanHK said in LAN2 Cannot Connect to main LAN:

      Thanks for helping.
      If I change the LAN2 rule to completely open any/any/all ports the result is the same - pinging NAS1 identifies the correct IP (192.168.1.8) but shows "destination host unreachable" and opening the web access page just times out.
      Internet continues to work OK - I am typing this from 192.168.2.20
      For this LAN2 > LAN traffic, the rule uses "*" for the Gateway - I assume this is "default" which should mean that pfsense handles it at it manages both 192.168.1.x and 192.168.2.x subnets. But is there any way to force this and/or prevent this outbound from LAN2 going straight to the WAN - which I assume is what's going on somehow as it doesn't seem to be the basic rule structure?
      Regards

      Double check the subnet masks are correct and default gateways on the end devices.

      Andy

      1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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        IanHK
        last edited by

        LAN is 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 DHCP 192.168.1.101 - 199
        LAN2 is 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 DHCP 192.168.2.101 - 199

        The workstation IP (192.168.2.20) and target NAS (192.168.1.8) are DHCP Static Mappings.

        Workstation seems to pick up everything correctly:

        DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d493:903e:358e:10%16(Preferred)
        IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.20(Preferred)
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:58:33 PM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:58:32 PM
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
        DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 83896568
        DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-21-5F-AE-27-00-28-F8-0A-93-99
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

        LAN2_Rules.JPG

        Note, the "Allow trusted WiFi" rule above was changed to an any/any/all rule without improving the situation. This originally had aliases for the x.x.2.x workstations and permitted ports.

        LAN_Rules.JPG

        Thanks.

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        • RicoR
          Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
          last edited by

          pfSense Interface configuration.

          -Rico

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            IanHK
            last edited by

            Interfaces:

            Iface_LAN.JPG

            Iface_LAN2.JPG

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            • RicoR
              Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
              last edited by

              IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.20(Preferred)
              Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0

              Wrong Subnet Mask, change to 255.255.255.0

              -Rico

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                IanHK
                last edited by

                But where is that being set - the WiFi AP is using pfsense as the DHCP so the settings are coming from pfsense aren't they:

                LAN2_DHCP.JPG

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                • RicoR
                  Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                  last edited by

                  This happens only for your static mappings or in general?
                  Check for any second DHCP server in your network. You have any Wireless AP in this network? Check for running DHCP server there.

                  -Rico

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                  • NogBadTheBadN
                    NogBadTheBad @Rico
                    last edited by NogBadTheBad

                    @Rico said in LAN2 Cannot Connect to main LAN:

                    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.20(Preferred)
                    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0

                    Wrong Subnet Mask, change to 255.255.255.0

                    -Rico

                    ☺

                    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
                    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d493:903e:358e:10%16(Preferred)
                    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.20(Preferred)
                    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
                    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:58:33 PM
                    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:58:32 PM
                    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
                    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
                    DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 83896568
                    DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-21-5F-AE-27-00-28-F8-0A-93-99
                    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
                    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

                    Could be you've changed the subnet mask on the DHCP server / pfSense and the lease on the client hasn't expired.

                    Andy

                    1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                    • I
                      IanHK
                      last edited by

                      There will be a short delay!

                      Tried to reboot after resaving to get a clean slate, and completely lost all internet connectivity.

                      Really appreciate the help and will revert if/when I get off this 3G phone link.

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                        IanHK
                        last edited by

                        Well, that's a few hours of my life I won't get back!

                        Tried absolutely everything I could think of with my Asus Access Point and eventually did a factory reset to get back to a known start point.

                        1. I gave up trying to get LAN2 to work, and just set the AP to automatically get the DHCP settings from pfSense. Plugged it back in and was back at the same status as this morning - everything talking to everything but no way to isolate some wifi users form the main network.
                        • The auto settings gave my wifi connected PC this setup - note the subset mask that is driven entirely by pfSense on LAN interface: 255.255.255.0

                        LAN_DHCP.JPG

                        Because everything is driven by pfSense, just for giggles I moved the AP from LAN to LAN2 - and look what happened to the subnet mask - it goes back to the troublesome 255.0.0.0 !!!

                        LAN2_DHCP.JPG

                        As this is seen as the reason my LAN2>LAN access is not working as it should, can anybody help to explain where/how in pfSense the subnet mask is modified for LAN2 compared to LAN when both are set the same?

                        pfSense 2.4.4 release-P1

                        Thanks

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                        • I
                          IanHK
                          last edited by

                          I modified the LAN2 DHCP settings to 192.168.2.1 /25 and restarted the DHCP service.

                          The new lease has got the same 255.0.0.0 issue as before:

                          LAN2_NEW_DHCP.JPG

                          Bizarre !

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                          • NogBadTheBadN
                            NogBadTheBad
                            last edited by

                            Remove the AP from LAN2 and plug the laptop in directly, what do you get then ?

                            Andy

                            1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                              IanHK
                              last edited by

                              I checked for a device getting a DHCP address, rather than static mappings - and it's the same - LAN2 DHCP gives a 255.0.0.0 subnet mask but simply plugging the cable from LAN2 back to LAN the assignments are normal - i.e. 255.255.255.0

                              There doesn't seem to be anywhere in pfSense where this could be going wrong - the DHCP settings pick up the correct range of possible IPs based on the interface settings so it appears to have the correct picture of what LAN2 looks like.

                              Other than deleting the LAN2 interface completely and re-creating it, does anybody have any other suggestions ?

                              Thanks

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                                IanHK
                                last edited by

                                Hi NogBTB,

                                Smart thought - bizarre result!

                                I cable connected my PC directly to the LAN2 interface and it gives me:

                                • a LAN address of 192.168.1.20 NOT the expected LAN2 address of 192.168.2.20

                                • Subnet mask 255.255.255.0

                                I originally had the static mappings on the LAN DHCP, and duplicated them to LAN2 (changing x.x1.x to x.x.2.x) so these devices (MACs) are defined in static mappings on both LAN and LAN2.

                                I am guessing this is the root cause, and in a steady state I could remove them from LAN once LAN2 is actually working, but should a PC connected to LAN2 be served an LAN IP and/or is there a way to stop it happening while keeping the fallback mappings on the LAN DHCP ?

                                Thanks

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                                • NogBadTheBadN
                                  NogBadTheBad
                                  last edited by NogBadTheBad

                                  Post a copy of the following:-

                                  1. An ipconfig /all when directly connected to LAN2

                                  2. An arp -a when directly connected to LAN2

                                  3. Status-> Interfaces LAN & LAN2.

                                  Andy

                                  1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                  • I
                                    IanHK
                                    last edited by

                                    Will do, thanks. Just need a moment to let things settle....

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                                    • I
                                      IanHK
                                      last edited by

                                      Current status:

                                      1. I removed the "duplicate" static mappings so now LAN only has static IPs defined for the wired devices, and LAN2 only has static mappings for the WiFi devices.

                                      2. For my workstation, I removed all static mappings so it is just picku\ing up DHCP settings.

                                      3. LAN2 is defined as 192.168.2.0/25 - I only did this to force a change to be saved to see if it would solve the 255.0.0.0 issue

                                      4. I rebooted pfSense

                                      5. I double-checked the workstation is using DCHP - when the pfSense box / AP went wonky last night I had a fixed IP which may have caused the situation earlier today, not sure of anything anymore!

                                      Now, with workstation connected directly to LAN2, I am seeing an x.x.2.x DHCP assigned IP - as expected - but the subnet mask is STILL 255.0.0.0

                                      Attached items as requested:

                                      • ipconfig /all
                                      • arp -a
                                      • pfSense Status > Interfaces

                                      IpConfigAll.txt

                                      Arp-a.txt

                                      Status_interfaces.JPG

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                                      • NogBadTheBadN
                                        NogBadTheBad
                                        last edited by NogBadTheBad

                                        192.168.2.1 00-0d-b9-50-e9-82 dynamic

                                        hmmm your getting DHCP from the pfSense LAN2 interface, thats why I asked for the arp -a, to tie in the DHCP server IP and the MAC address.

                                        The subnet mask is now /25 rather than /24.

                                        Can you post a screenshot from the LAN2 config and the DHCP settings for LAN2.

                                        Andy

                                        1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                          IanHK
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks - here you go...

                                          LAN2.JPG

                                          LAN2DHCP_Part1.JPG

                                          LAN2DHCP_Part2.JPG

                                          LAN2DHCP_Part3.JPG

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                                          • NogBadTheBadN
                                            NogBadTheBad
                                            last edited by NogBadTheBad

                                            https://www.iana.org/assignments/bootp-dhcp-parameters/bootp-dhcp-parameters.txt

                                            https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2132

                                            Remove DHCP option 1 and try again.

                                            No need to go anywhere near the options config for standard users.

                                            Andy

                                            1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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