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    IrixOS @Gertjan
    last edited by IrixOS Sep 4, 2023, 2:20 PM Sep 4, 2023, 1:58 PM

    @Gertjan

    No there is a default 0 route pointing to the pfsense box, and routes back to the switch. This setup has always worked.
    I have a VDSL2+ modem bridged with the pfsense. The pfsense box is connected with the cisco L3 switch and that router/switch is connected to a L2 distribution switch which connects to the rest of the access switches.
    From the inside network I can RDP no problem.

    Also noticed that I cannot access the pfsense webpage from the openVPN client on the smartphone. This exact setup has worked before you know. Nothing has changed since then. It's bizar.
    I can ping everything from the openVPN client on the smartphone but RDP does not work. I can hardly believe there is something with the VPN routing itself, I don't know.

    To my opinion the fact I cannot access the pfsense webpage and cannot RDP makes the VPN connection useless. Such a shame.

    Any findings would be appreciated.
    Ask me anything you want to know to acquire a solution,

    Thank you,

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      IrixOS @IrixOS
      last edited by IrixOS Sep 4, 2023, 10:43 PM Sep 4, 2023, 10:42 PM

      @IrixOS
      41860-howto-L3-intervlanrouting-00.png

      That is the model setup. The default router representing pfsense.

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        marvosa @IrixOS
        last edited by Sep 5, 2023, 12:51 AM

        @IrixOS Post your openvpn config (config.ovpn)

        Post the rules on your OpenVPN tab

        Verify your VM's are using your SVI's as the default gateway

        Are you entering the hostname or the IP in the "Computer" box for RDP?

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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
          last edited by Sep 5, 2023, 1:19 AM

          Could always provide a traceroute to confirm routing

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            Gertjan @IrixOS
            last edited by Sep 5, 2023, 5:19 AM

            @IrixOS

            Can you post : the startup openvpn log sequence of the OpenVPN server ?
            and
            The openvpn log at moment you (try to) connect to the OpenVPN server

            @IrixOS said in Cannot connect with RDP via openVPN:

            Nothing has changed since then

            Things can break over time. Like certificates become expired.

            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              IrixOS @marvosa
              last edited by IrixOS Sep 5, 2023, 1:53 PM Sep 5, 2023, 1:52 PM

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                IrixOS @marvosa
                last edited by Sep 5, 2023, 1:54 PM

                @marvosa Rules.jpg Rules_2.jpg

                VM's Checked SVI and default gateway, all ok, BTW, I can ping every machine from the openvpn app on the smartphone.

                Tried both IP and DNS resolution, no connection

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                  bingo600 @IrixOS
                  last edited by bingo600 Sep 5, 2023, 1:55 PM Sep 5, 2023, 1:55 PM

                  @IrixOS

                  Are you having an MTU issue ??

                  Maybe try this

                  fragment 1400
                  mssfix 1400
                  

                  https://forum.netgate.com/topic/182605/solved-firewall-wan-blocking-packets-destined-for-a-working-openvpn

                  Remember to do it on both ends

                  /Bingo

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                    IrixOS @Gertjan
                    last edited by Sep 5, 2023, 2:04 PM

                    @Gertjan

                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_VER=3.git::081bfebe:RelWithDebInfo
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_PLAT=android
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_NCP=2
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_TCPNL=1
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_PROTO=30
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_CIPHERS=AES-256-GCM:AES-128-GCM:CHACHA20-POLY1305:AES-128-CBC
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_LZO_STUB=1
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_COMP_STUB=1
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_COMP_STUBv2=1
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_GUI_VER=net.openvpn.connect.android_3.3.4-9290
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_SSO=webauth,openurl,crtext
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn user 'kurkunv' authenticated
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 WARNING: 'link-mtu' is used inconsistently, local='link-mtu 1558', remote='link-mtu 1559'
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 [kurkunv] Peer Connection Initiated with [AF_INET]94.109.209.23:2845
                    Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 kurkunv/94.109.209.23:2845 MULTI_sva: pool returned IPv4=172.16.1.2, IPv6=(Not enabled)

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                      IrixOS @marvosa
                      last edited by johnpoz Sep 5, 2023, 2:43 PM Sep 5, 2023, 2:07 PM

                      @marvosa

                      persist-tun
                      persist-key
                      cipher AES-128-CBC
                      ncp-ciphers AES-256-GCM:AES-128-GCM
                      auth SHA1
                      tls-client
                      client
                      remote rshafw000000001.ddns.net 1194 udp
                      verify-x509-name "www.rsha.de" name
                      auth-user-pass
                      remote-cert-tls server
                      compress lz4-v2

                      <ca>
                      -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
                      MIIEZTCCA02gAwIBAgIBADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADB/MQswCQYDVQQGEwJCRTEQ
                      MA4GA1UECBMHQW50d2VycDEPMA0GA1UEBxMGRHVmZmVsMQ0wCwYDVQQKEwRSU0hB
                      MSgwJgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhl2b2xrYW4ua3Vya3VuQGhvdG1haWwuY29tMRQwEgYD
                      VQQDEwtpbnRlcm5hbC1jYTAeFw0xODA3MDExNzQ4MDlaFw0yODA2MjgxNzQ4MDla
                      MH8xCzAJBgNVBAYTAkJFMRAwDgYDVQQIEwdBbnR3ZXJwMQ8wDQYDVQQHEwZEdWZm
                      <snipped by mod>
                      aJjpXervXoYbqjMwiSOaaUcFgMqBngV120WYlmrhes7DdLGImFePGGMKC9VE7krZ
                      vGAiZe+nPEVjFoJTypc6+6NX12o4cfq3qg==
                      -----END CERTIFICATE-----
                      </ca>
                      <cert>
                      -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
                      MIIEvDCCA6SgAwIBAgIBAjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADB/MQswCQYDVQQGEwJCRTEQ
                      MA4GA1UECBMHQW50d2VycDEPMA0GA1UEBxMGRHVmZmVsMQ0wCwYDVQQKEwRSU0hB
                      MSgwJgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhl2b2xrYW4ua3Vya3VuQGhvdG1haWwuY29tMRQwEgYD
                      VQQDEwtpbnRlcm5hbC1jYTAeFw0xODA3MDExNzQ5MzhaFw0yODA2MjgxNzQ5Mzha
                      MHsxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkJFMRAwDgYDVQQIEwdBbnR3ZXJwMQ8wDQYDVQQHEwZEdWZm
                      ZWwxDTALBgNVBAoTBFJTSEExKDAmBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWGXZvbGthbi5rdXJrdW5A
                      <snipped by mod>
                      jMS6LIf0YDcHlXxGff/chxVkidbKQoa8gMd0qf0UhtF3Qd4qHKK8rPjBF8cptckB
                      3WQTokQXuKTvtsWe+HFt9pdSqLOSs58jSEB+ZZfoMU7kScnFXJ1pgW1M7cHIVBqG
                      L1VCkJEcTKHvbGKNIlsHa/S/VoEME0EGn7MCh1F/hvK4hc80MxzU7p6MBBN+Z8Zm
                      4UNT4g6aTjsMYp5XzywdWMXBw5tuSx8lc9qhIPQf6+5B5sekC1WZPPOlAT2P1BF8
                      gZBKUNdYPGt+3vrChjaLY2pfrSxgk6N3w24T4OIUx6qwwH/5GgzDFhynww2uSa+V
                      eblidbXb9sAXqAJweCNNUg==
                      -----END CERTIFICATE-----
                      </cert>
                      <key>
                      -----BEGIN PRIVATE KEY-----
                      MIIEvQIBADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCBKcwggSjAgEAAoIBAQC8tPHojOuy6ZHb
                      Y3KfN1Gh0bmHUa8qZxLO9UzcJBhq4Mr1Ml8UFSRNCZ2MszXLU9YGaDiA9RBFDRx/
                      HjYKKhfxFX2QrYdT61LFBpBUDkorTuuYJ1bPgDsV3IHbcOiE5Nk8vAqT8KAAh+vS
                      tgAO6RLH3Ncp15+nYmSrkeQECzAF3aOT9T8r1bqxSHFUojJKjPoQeZ62dIWD9Mxs
                      <snipped by mod>
                      tetslkmM3VGBiDsK8j5dfBQcPHc4Rt2kUFLjRQHmmiQDUuTGywuldkQ7Pw8Rl/xd
                      1IEp1x7ZLY1d4o68YPvYYL0m/u7/o4w28UP27v69mTtgnV5wGDnPofsoNQKBgFG1
                      7e7ULd3+XeZZMqzqL3caXtq7f3P725CXCauEeMpgxJBei77oFhb8tHdg62enxh6N
                      WsQj6DZmHOqtBhx+M26ud4VrJSpKZ+UrsVQ3R629ryv+Xu75CudrB2VIMM39Gp+r
                      zPrfOAk/VC/GZoStBj8SZEynVHPeAq/pdBknlUx1AoGAbxsocW68vmTVy/pHJdA6
                      MQxQKyp4rAARVTMRyhYZhaNcaie/Qmb2vdbrqIDJfCFlIICoqThi1j5zjFt1HvBk
                      x/Dprv6UspaoFWOGhicwGY0tRcx7lkGsehbVmgoynOkwlyQVMfPcu5C4ecXTnAVH
                      V7yNsaepx91mwVZRhL6qaJk=
                      -----END PRIVATE KEY-----
                      </key>
                      <tls-auth>

                      2048 bit OpenVPN static key

                      -----BEGIN OpenVPN Static key V1-----
                      dd18a2ffe3bd789cd0f4287bde6a90ba
                      cfe34ea65521461d69582f82f9d30c59
                      c3fed75174b1bcf2fca5636854f9a896
                      <snipped by mod>
                      ab1ef19de29738094360a33e2fa9ed2e
                      9591ac77b0dc611ddd7a3ce9a5219dad
                      7fecdef9c325b80c3902820057d734ac
                      552493644a44c8719a85d26e35845ec1
                      c3e0e04b4365e7c47d5e757ed69d16a3
                      -----END OpenVPN Static key V1-----
                      </tls-auth>
                      key-direction 1

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                        IrixOS @bingo600
                        last edited by IrixOS Sep 5, 2023, 2:25 PM Sep 5, 2023, 2:16 PM

                        @bingo600

                        This is the log, how doe you change the MTU, I found a field on the WAN if tab, you said both ends, I will try to find the setting in openVPN client.

                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_VER=3.git::081bfebe:RelWithDebInfo
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_PLAT=android
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_NCP=2
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_TCPNL=1
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_PROTO=30
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_CIPHERS=AES-256-GCM:AES-128-GCM:CHACHA20-POLY1305:AES-128-CBC
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_LZO_STUB=1
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_COMP_STUB=1
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_COMP_STUBv2=1
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_GUI_VER=net.openvpn.connect.android_3.3.4-9290
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 peer info: IV_SSO=webauth,openurl,crtext
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn user 'kurkunv' authenticated
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 WARNING: 'link-mtu' is used inconsistently, local='link-mtu 1558', remote='link-mtu 1559'
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 94.109.209.23:2845 [kurkunv] Peer Connection Initiated with [AF_INET]94.109.209.23:2845
                        Sep 5 16:03:01 openvpn 27362 kurkunv/94.109.209.23:2845 MULTI_sva: pool returned IPv4=172.16.1.2, IPv6=(Not enabled)

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                          bingo600 @IrixOS
                          last edited by bingo600 Sep 5, 2023, 2:42 PM Sep 5, 2023, 2:37 PM

                          @IrixOS

                          You set it in the openvpn client + server config windows - Advanced configurations window

                          See here for an example:
                          https://forum.netgate.com/topic/182605/solved-firewall-wan-blocking-packets-destined-for-a-working-openvpn

                          Do it on the "remote first" , then the local .....

                          Aaaannnd it's always good to have https access to the box, if accessing/managing it via openvpn.

                          Edit: Looks like your listed client above is "Android" ....
                          If you used Client export , you can add the options there too , to be exported.

                          63ca692e-94e2-475b-ae8d-51bb671166c4-image.png

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @IrixOS
                            last edited by johnpoz Sep 5, 2023, 2:45 PM Sep 5, 2023, 2:44 PM

                            @IrixOS I snipped out some of that info - that is dangerous to post your full certs/keys on public forum..

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                              IrixOS @bingo600
                              last edited by Sep 5, 2023, 6:43 PM

                              @bingo600

                              That didn't work.

                              Thank you,

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                                bingo600 @IrixOS
                                last edited by Sep 6, 2023, 3:08 PM

                                @IrixOS
                                Just a question ...
                                You do have RDP enabled , and allowed in the WIN firewall ... Correct

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                                QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                                CPU  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                                LAN  : 4 x Intel 211, Disk  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                                  Gertjan @bingo600
                                  last edited by Sep 6, 2023, 3:20 PM

                                  I'll complement this one :
                                  @bingo600 said in Cannot connect with RDP via openVPN:

                                  and allowed in the WIN firewall

                                  @IrixOS

                                  When you activate the RDP server process in your Microsoft OS, by default (as per Redmond's rules) only connections from the local LAN, like 192.168.1.1/24 (or whatever your LAN is) are accepted, as Microsoft doesn't want you to use RDP from 'everywhere' aka the Internet.
                                  The protocol just isn't safe enough, it was written with speed in mind, not security.

                                  When you use a VPN connection, this isn't really an issue, as you control the entire connection, and the dangerous part is "secured" as it is running over OpenVPN.

                                  So : go to the Windows firewall, and modify (easier, you will find it) it.
                                  This is mine :

                                  523373f4-fbe7-4d1e-b70e-843fb26ebe7f-image.png

                                  Two rules, as there is one for TCP and one for UDP.

                                  Btw : Double check that your PC recognizes the LAN network as private, not public. In Public mode it will accept no connections - from no one.

                                  I know : you said it was working before, so my words are actually useless.
                                  Just double check ^^ (maybe if some one has reset the windows firewall recently )

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                                    last edited by johnpoz Sep 6, 2023, 3:42 PM Sep 6, 2023, 3:34 PM

                                    @Gertjan said in Cannot connect with RDP via openVPN:

                                    you said it was working before, so my words are actually useless.

                                    Or maybe it changed from private to public.. But if that was the case you would think ping wouldn't work either, because if blocked ping would be blocked too, etc.

                                    But yes checking the firewall rules on the PC for sure prudent..

                                    If I was troubleshooting this problem, I would validate that the traffic is even being sent to the client.. So you know where to look - this would be as simple as sniffing for port 3389 on the lan side interface the pc is connected too.. So for example I just connected to vpn on my iphone.

                                    setup a sniff on lan for 3389.. Then connected via my phone rdp client. Screen pops right up on my phone, and you can see from the sniff traffic flowing both ways. If download and open in wireshark - can see the syn, and then syn,ack response..

                                    sniff.jpg

                                    The 10.0.200.250 address is the address my iphone when it connects to the vpn.. I am using rd client on my phone

                                    connection.jpg

                                    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/remote-desktop-mobile/id714464092

                                    If your never seeing the traffic get sent to the PC IP, then you need to look upstream.. If you see traffic sent to the client IP, but no answers - then you have the wrong IP your trying to connect too? Its not running remote desktop? Its on a different port than the standard 3389, its running a firewall? Its not using pfsense as its gateway, etc. But the simple sniff would tell you where to look next, either in pfsense firewall rules, etc.. Or towards the client.

                                    edit: other obvious indication of a connection from client started at least, was I saw my PC that using (which is one I rdp to from phone) screen go to the login screen..

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                                      IrixOS @johnpoz
                                      last edited by Sep 6, 2023, 9:44 PM

                                      @johnpoz

                                      How can I close the ticket on this forum?

                                      I have to mothball everything. My distribution switch has failed. I can't believe this is happening right now! From the port LEDs I can see that the switch has a serious problem.

                                      The console says SYSTEM INIT: NOT ENOUGH MEMORY TO BOOT

                                      Pure nonsense!

                                      The switch may be outdated but it's brand new, I've only turned that retarded thing on and off three times!

                                      It's certainly not the first time!
                                      The other one I bought also had a problem. All the LEDs are flashing but it won't boot.
                                      I already tried heating the solder joints, and then the port LEDs all came on, but no console.
                                      A dead fish in the water! How is that possible, that damn thing was brand new, never used, ever programmed!

                                      DAMN YOU CISCO!!!!!!!

                                      PFSENSE sucks and CISCO sucks, I haven't touched that moronic thing for years. VPN has always worked! RDP has always worked! PERIOD!

                                      I thank you all for trying to solve my problem, I shall return to this forum as soon I have bought another piece of their cisco junk!

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                                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @IrixOS
                                        last edited by michmoor Sep 6, 2023, 10:54 PM Sep 6, 2023, 10:48 PM

                                        @IrixOS why pfsense suck tho?
                                        🤷🏽

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @IrixOS
                                          last edited by Sep 6, 2023, 11:11 PM

                                          @IrixOS there is no "ticket" unless you opened one with tac... This is just a forum, where people like to help other people..

                                          @michmoor my guess is just frustration..

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