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    pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

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    • CreationGuyC
      CreationGuy
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      https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-software-embraces-change-a-strategic-migration-to-the-linux-kernel

      This may be a foolish question, but is this an April fools posting?

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        mcury @CreationGuy
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        @CreationGuy said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

        is this an April fools posting?

        if that is the case, they did put a lot of effort in that joke.. 🙂

        dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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        • CreationGuyC
          CreationGuy @mcury
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          @mcury I'm not too familiar with the freeBSD vs Linux debate and being that it's 4/1 I wasn't sure if it was meant for a joke.

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          • Bob.DigB
            Bob.Dig LAYER 8
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            It is a joke for sure, although I really would like it to be not. 👏

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            • GertjanG
              Gertjan @CreationGuy
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              @CreationGuy

              Thanks for making sure that I wasn't the only one reading the blog - RSS feed.

              Serious ...

              Migrating to .... a Linux kernel with a FreeBSD userland.

              You can stop reading after that phrase. I'm not sure what they are smoking over there in Texas, but I want some too.
              This :

              Following in-depth evaluation and collaborative discussions ...

              Where ? With who ? 😊
              For me, this is a one man's discussion with the one he sees in the mirror.
              Or, and why not, I totally do not understand how this might be possible.
              ( without a whole lot more work - entering new uncharted territory and probably sinking the boat called pfSense with the captain called "Netgate" )

              Btw : that's a hint : no one dared to put it's name at the top.

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                mcury @Gertjan
                last edited by

                The best day to say something like that is today..
                If the repercussion is horrible, they just could say: HAHA April fools.. 😆

                dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                  last edited by michmoor

                  I will say that if you are on the Reddit forums for pfsense - Gonzopacho - i think is the name did mention that pfSense will be moving to Linux..or something to that effect..a while ago.
                  I don't think this is a april fools joke. This is the real deal.

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                    SteveITS Galactic Empire @michmoor
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                    @michmoor https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/1bt3whd/pfsense_software_embraces_change_a_strategic/

                    If true it's a really bad day to announce it.

                    The thing is they moved TNSR to Linux a while back, as the post notes.

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                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @SteveITS
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                      @SteveITS
                      Oh i agree. Communication has never been Netgate's strength as we know.
                      That being the case, i still think this is legit.

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                      • rcfaR
                        rcfa
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                        The blog post makes a bunch of valid points, in particular the matter about WiFi support, support for hardware platforms, etc.
                        So it's plausible and there are points to be made for such a shift. But the timing is either a giveaway, or badly chosen.
                        In a time when satire has trouble keeping up with reality, if this is an April Foolsday post, it's deceptively close to something believable.

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                        • the otherT
                          the other @rcfa
                          last edited by

                          @rcfa said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

                          if this is an April Foolsday post, it's deceptively close to something believable.

                          but isn't that the spice of every good prank? I mean, announcing "hey guys, we finally give up, opnsense is way better...so with our upcoming release everything will look kinda orange..." wouldn't really do the job. 🤡
                          Much better to pick something that makes ppl laugh...but leaves a small nagging uncertainty in your head...until finally on April 2nd that feeling of relieve hits.😊

                          the other

                          pure amateur home user, no business or professional background
                          please excuse poor english skills and typpoz :)

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                          • planedropP
                            planedrop
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                            I feel like this is legit, but what a terrible day to announce it....

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                              YannTKO
                              last edited by YannTKO

                              As you know, 24.03 will be probably the last update for 32 bit ARM proc.
                              Moving to Linux Kernel (if it is not a joke) is maybe the solution to keep old hardware working (all the 3100 fleet for example).

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                              • planedropP
                                planedrop @YannTKO
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                                @YannTKO That would be nice, I have some 3100's deployed that I'd prefer not to swap out.

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                                • JonathanLeeJ
                                  JonathanLee
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                                  It should be Xenix

                                  $mkuser pfContainerOSfingerprintingPlease

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                                  • keyserK
                                    keyser Rebel Alliance @CreationGuy
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                                    @CreationGuy I’m certain its a joke given the date and the “BSD userland” comment, but honestly…
                                    I really think they should consider a move to Linux even though that would be a massive undertaking.
                                    Truth is BSD is dying when it comes to new hardware and developer support.
                                    Fx: We need modern LTE/5G/WiFi support for more WAN flexibility.

                                    It would be better to embrace it and try before its too late - because its going to become too late at some point.

                                    Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                                    • JonathanLeeJ
                                      JonathanLee @YannTKO
                                      last edited by JonathanLee

                                      @YannTKO said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

                                      ARM

                                      ARM is the future. You can embrace it or get out of the way for the next generation of professional programmers. I am sure everyone is well aware of the power of Raspberry PI ARM systems with the flag ship quad core x64 and it doesn't need heat sinks all under 100 dollars. ARM is are never going away. ARM will only grow its market share at this point. Apple has even jumped ship over to the M1-now M4. Get over it. The 2100-MAX is a work of programming art.

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                                      It reminds me of Cars 3

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                                        YannTKO @JonathanLee
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                                        @JonathanLee
                                        I edited my post with 32 bit CPU to be accurate.

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                                        • planedropP
                                          planedrop @keyser
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                                          @keyser No BSD Userland is a thing, it's been done before, recently: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Chimera-Linux-2022

                                          I don't think this indicates it's a joke at all.

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                                          • keyserK
                                            keyser Rebel Alliance @planedrop
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                                            @planedrop ?? What would be the point of making a stategic move to a modern kernel only to lock yourself into a frankenmonster that will be unflexible and missing everything you are missing on the current limited BSD world?

                                            Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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