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      xbipin
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      as the title suggests, i need to create a openvpn connection to expressvpn servers which is similar to strongvpn and i was able to get the config file from their support and able to even connect but the problem being all my lan traffic goes through the vpn where as i need to make all traffic to my voip server only go through vpn and the rest directly through the isp only.

      once i enable AON all traffic goes through vpn so need some1 to fix that so only voip traffic goes through vpn to my voip server

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Did you follow a guide or howto to get as far as you did?
        Thinking about how I would do this I wouldn't use manual outbound NAT.

        Steve

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          xbipin
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          yes i followed the guide and got the openvpn tunnel up and running but as soon as i switch AON to manual, all lan traffic goes through tunnel and if i leave it to auto then the traffic doesnt go out at all nor through tunnel or isp wan.

          i just want a way to make selected voip traffic to go out through the tunnel and the rest directly through the isp

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            xbipin
            last edited by

            steps i did were

            setup openvpn client with server specific settings such as certificates, keys etc
            assign an interface
            created a gateway under routing

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              What guide did you follow?

              Steve

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                xbipin
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                http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,29944.0.html

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Ah OK.
                  Pretty much exactly what I had in mind. I would probably have tried to use a tap interface but if you can use tun so much the better.

                  It's not obvious why AON has to be enabled, and clearly it wasn't required when that guide was first written, I'll have to read through the thread.

                  Did you change the firewall rule so it only routed traffic from your VOIP server? Following the guide exactly would indeed route all your traffic via the VPN.
                  Also make sure the VPN gateway is not set as default and that the correct outbound NAT rules are in place after you switch to AON.

                  Steve

                  Edit: OK the AON requirement is explained here.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    There's also Chris's comment in that thread:
                    @cmb:

                    That's ok for your typical home setup, but what you're actually doing there is overriding the fact that StrongVPN is pushing you a default route and modifying your firewall's routing table so it sends everything over the VPN (unless you override it with policy routing as you're doing). That will cause a number of issues with more advanced setups, as it's going to default to sending traffic initiated from the firewall out of the VPN which is usually going to be undesirable.

                    If the VPN connection is indeed pushing a new default route, which is undesirable, then that too would explain your problem.
                    You could get around this by changing the gateway of the default 'LAN to any' rule but as Chris says that won't help traffic generated by pfSense.
                    A better solution would be to prevent the default route changing the pfSense routing table but I'm unsure how to do that.

                    Steve

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                      pkwong
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                      It's doable.  Pick your voip adapter, run siproxd and have the outgoing interface point to the vpn interface.  In other words, create an interface and assign the openvpn tunnel to it.  You'll have more flexibility with the way it's set up.

                      When all else fails, don't blame the machine.  Blame your architecture.

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                        xbipin
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                        @stephenw10:

                        Ah OK.
                        Pretty much exactly what I had in mind. I would probably have tried to use a tap interface but if you can use tun so much the better.

                        It's not obvious why AON has to be enabled, and clearly it wasn't required when that guide was first written, I'll have to read through the thread.

                        Did you change the firewall rule so it only routed traffic from your VOIP server? Following the guide exactly would indeed route all your traffic via the VPN.
                        Also make sure the VPN gateway is not set as default and that the correct outbound NAT rules are in place after you switch to AON.

                        Steve

                        Edit: OK the AON requirement is explained here.

                        the vpn gateway isnt set as default, default would be the pppoe connection to my isp on the wan interface. after some openvpn changes mentioned in the same thread, its now required to switch to AON to make all ur lan traffic to route through the vpn, the only problem i face is to route everything on wan but just voip traffic through vpn.

                        i havent changed any firewall rules, tried to create a few but didnt work, will need to try to edit the default lan to any to route using wan and lan to voip server using vpn, will let u know if that works.

                        what i wanted to know is once i switch to AON, do i need to create rules there to route differently?

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                          xbipin
                          last edited by

                          @pkwong:

                          It's doable.  Pick your voip adapter, run siproxd and have the outgoing interface point to the vpn interface.  In other words, create an interface and assign the openvpn tunnel to it.  You'll have more flexibility with the way it's set up.

                          if i do this how do i still stop rest of the lan traffic going through vpn?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            When you switch to AON the existing auto rules should be filled in for you. If you then subsequently add any further interfaces you will have to manually add rules.
                            If you post some screen shots I'm sure we can resolve this for you.

                            If it is a problem with the remote VPN network pushing a new default route to you then you should be able to see that change in Diagnostics: Routes: in the GUI.

                            Steve

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                              xbipin
                              last edited by

                              i managed to get it up and routing properly

                              enabled AON
                              in rules edited the default lan to any rule and set it to wan gateway
                              created a new rule under lan for lan to sip server ip and set it to vpn gateway

                              this did it for me but some other issues came up

                              under floating i have 2 rules for lan to sip server and sip server to lan without any gateway specified but given the voip queue so traffic shaper can prioritize that, but after setting this vpn up, i only see the qVoIP on LAN getting pupulated and the the uplaod goes to the default qp2p instead of the qVoIP on WAN, any fix for that so this voip over vpn goes to the proper up and down qVoIP queue?

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Reading through this:
                                http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#redirect
                                and then this:
                                http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/manuals/65-openvpn-20x-manpage.html

                                It would appear that the reason your routing table is being overwritten is due to the advanced command in the openvpn client setup: redirect-gateway def1
                                Assuming you copied this from the StrongVPN guide.

                                First check that your routing table is being changed as I outlined in my previous post. Then try removing this command and recheck.
                                If this successfully prevents your default route changing then you can remove the gateway settings from the 'lan to any' rule.

                                Steve

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                                  xbipin
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                                  well i didnt, i use the below commands only

                                  fast-io;route-delay 2;verb 5;tun-mtu 1500;mssfix 1450;fragment 1300;persist-key;

                                  expressvpn gave me a ovpn file with the below contents so could u recommend what commands should i use out of them

                                  dev tun
                                  fast-io
                                  #proto tcp-client
                                  persist-key
                                  persist-tun
                                  replay-persist cur-replay-protection.cache
                                  nobind
                                  remote canada-cluster.expressnetwork.net 1194
                                  remote canada-cluster2.expressnetwork.net 1194
                                  remote canada-cluster3.expressnetwork.net 1194
                                  remote canada-cluster4.expressnetwork.net 1194
                                  remote-random
                                  pull
                                  # Use compression
                                  comp-lzo
                                  # Strong encryption
                                  tls-client
                                  tls-remote server
                                  ns-cert-type server
                                  tls-auth ssl/ta.key 1
                                  verb 3
                                  cert ssl/client.crt
                                  key ssl/client.key
                                  ca ssl/ca.crt
                                  
                                  route-method exe
                                  route-delay 2
                                  
                                  tun-mtu 1500
                                  fragment 1300
                                  mssfix 1450
                                  
                                  
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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    We have reached the limits of my own experience with this, anything further is experimental!  ::)
                                    However since something apparently is causing you default route to change I think you first need to confirm this is happening when you connect the OpenVPN tunnel by comparing your routing table before and after.

                                    Steve

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                                      xbipin
                                      last edited by

                                      i dont think the default gateway is being changed

                                      screenshot attached for before vpn and after vpn

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        No but it is pushing a route, 0.0.0.0/1, which includes the entire internet! It never has to use the default route any more because it has a route to everywhere.

                                        This is the expected behaviour if the server is pushing the redirect-gateway def1 command:

                                        Add the def1 flag to override the default gateway by using 0.0.0.0/1 and 128.0.0.0/1 rather than 0.0.0.0/0. This has the benefit of overriding but not wiping out the original default gateway.

                                        You could prevent this by using the 'route-nopull' option in the client config but that will probably prevent any routing information being sent making the vpn connection useless. Might be worth a try though.  :-\

                                        Steve

                                        Edit: You can add routes back manually to the config file:
                                        route yourvoipserverIP;

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                                          xbipin
                                          last edited by

                                          after i added route-nopull i get the below routing table which seems correct now

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                                            xbipin
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                                            if i added the 'route-nopull' then went to AON and switched it back to Auto and under rules in lan to any removed the gateway which was as wan, all traffic goes out the default wan conenction which earlier wasnting working at all untill i specified wan as gateway so i guess that got solved.

                                            according to this thread http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,7361.0.html its not possible to shape traffic that goes inside a tunnel so the whole tunnel traffic needs to be sent to a single queue so i just want to route the voip so i added 2 rules under floating tab one with direction out and selected source as any and destination as vpn subnet and other as traffic in, source vpn subnet and destination any and assigned the qvoip to both but only the in traffic goes to qvoip and the out still goes to qp2p. both the rules r set as queues

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