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How to block in Windows10 Telemetry with pfsense

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    n3by
    last edited by Aug 16, 2015, 4:42 PM

    Hi,
    try this:

    make an alias to allow MS_update with this:

    download.windowsupdate.com	-w7 xp
    update.microsoft.com	- w7 xp
    sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net	- w8.1
    vortex.data.microsoft.com	- w8.1
    vortex-win.data.microsoft.com	- w8.1
    fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net	- w8.1
    statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net	-w8.1 not required at the moment ?
    

    make another alias to block MS_telemetry with this:

    vortex.data.microsoft.com
    vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
    telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
    telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
    sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
    watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    redir.metaservices.microsoft.com
    choice.microsoft.com
    choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    telemetry.microsoft.com
    watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com
    telemetry.appex.bing.net
    telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
    telemetry.appex.bing.net:443
    settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    survey.watson.microsoft.com
    watson.live.com
    watson.microsoft.com
    statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com
    corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com
    compatexchange.cloudapp.net
    cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
    a-0001.a-msedge.net
    statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
    sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
    fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
    diagnostics.support.microsoft.com
    corp.sts.microsoft.com
    statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com
    pre.footprintpredict.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    feedback.windows.com
    feedback.microsoft-hohm.com
    feedback.search.microsoft.com
    rad.msn.com
    preview.msn.com
    ad.doubleclick.net
    ads.msn.com
    ads1.msads.net
    ads1.msn.com
    a.ads1.msn.com
    a.ads2.msn.com
    adnexus.net
    adnxs.com
    az361816.vo.msecnd.net
    az512334.vo.msecnd.net
    vortex-bn2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net
    vortex-cy2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net
    dmd.metaservices.microsoft.com
    

    add appropriate rules at firewall to allow the MS_update and after that rule to block the MS_telemetry.

    feel free to experiment and add another domains if you have… in case you want to block all MS just disable the MS_update rule.

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      foresthus
      last edited by Aug 17, 2015, 8:03 PM

      Hi,

      thnx 4 the quick response. Where did u get all the urls from?

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        n3by
        last edited by Aug 18, 2015, 7:56 AM Aug 18, 2015, 6:52 AM

        from here and from traffic logs:
        http://pastebin.com/ULJjVM7w

        edit:

        here it is an updated list
        http://www.pcsympathy.com/

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          foresthus
          last edited by Aug 19, 2015, 8:31 AM

          Thank you very much.

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            cyberbot
            last edited by Aug 21, 2015, 9:17 PM

            @foresthus:

            Thank you very much.

            telemtry uses a million links
            Blocking those won't rely block it
            I have created some powershell to disable this .

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              foresthus
              last edited by Aug 24, 2015, 8:58 AM

              Hi there,

              and do you show us all this script?

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                KOM
                last edited by Aug 24, 2015, 5:29 PM

                A centralized solution would be best.  If you're going to go local, why not just use one of the many utils already out there?

                http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

                http://pxc-coding.com/portfolio/donotspy10/

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                  BBcan177 Moderator
                  last edited by Aug 24, 2015, 5:37 PM

                  http://thehackernews.com/2015/08/windows-10-privacy-spying.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+Security+Blog%29

                  http://thehackernews.com/2015/08/windows-10-disables-pirated-games-microsoft.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHackersNews+%28The+Hackers+News+-+Security+Blog%29

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                    robi
                    last edited by Aug 24, 2015, 7:38 PM

                    Well, looking at the news, I decided to simply not upgrade my Win7 to the free Win10.
                    Instead, I'm starting to evaluate seriously using a Linux distro as a desktop OS. Ubuntu-MATE is a really good candidate given that the user interface can be easily customized to look similar to Windows (just as Linux Mint too).

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                      foresthus
                      last edited by Aug 25, 2015, 4:50 PM

                      @cyberbot:

                      @foresthus:

                      Thank you very much.

                      telemtry uses a million links
                      Blocking those won't rely block it
                      I have created some powershell to disable this .

                      Hi there,

                      Still waiting for the script. Will it be posted?

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                        foresthus
                        last edited by Aug 26, 2015, 11:01 AM

                        @robi:

                        Well, looking at the news, I decided to simply not upgrade my Win7 to the free Win10.
                        Instead, I'm starting to evaluate seriously using a Linux distro as a desktop OS. Ubuntu-MATE is a really good candidate given that the user interface can be easily customized to look similar to Windows (just as Linux Mint too).

                        Hi,

                        do u really think, that win7 or above are not connecting to MS? LOL
                        You mentioned to stay close to win7. That is OK 4 me, but a solution to the problem that ms-infos of your station might be send to ms or even other companies working with ms together is still present. There I would test your workstation, with a firewall before, what traffic is going to which URL or ip.

                        The best solution is say farewell 2 your ms-system and switch over to linux.

                        It just an idea  ;) Do not 4get that the whole world wants 2 go to cloudservices (not only ms)

                        cu

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                          KOM
                          last edited by Aug 26, 2015, 2:52 PM

                          I decided to simply not upgrade my Win7

                          All the same telemetry shit was added to 7, 8 and 8.1 in a recent Windows Update.

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                            n3by
                            last edited by Aug 27, 2015, 7:54 AM

                            Do you have that w7 w8.1 update nr ?

                            If is not marked as security then can be uninstalled if by mistake somebody installed.

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                              robi
                              last edited by Aug 27, 2015, 8:40 AM

                              Thank God I already switched my machines to Linux.
                              To be really honest, I really don't see any difference while using it. I was perfectly able to switch over all my workflows to Ubuntu Mate.

                              Win7 is still there "dormant" on the disk as the installs are dual-boot at the moment, but if I'll be able to sustain the Linux desktop the way it is, absolutely frustrationless for about 2-3 months, I'll be surely deleting the Windows partition to reclaim the space.

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                                robi
                                last edited by Aug 27, 2015, 8:42 AM

                                @KOM:

                                A centralized solution would be best.

                                Agree, but that would be very hard to accomplish, because at a central location, it will be very hard to distinguish between useful traffic and and Microsoft telemetry traffic.
                                I guess they were smart enough to bypass simple firewall rules by frequently changing CDN IPs and addresses.

                                And local solutions installed on Windows 10s themselves are not trustful.

                                So, the only real solution is to either:
                                a) don't upgrade to Windows 10
                                b) switch over to something else

                                Of course the fact that all this telemetry was deployed to Win7 and Win8 engraves the situation. Hopefully it can be uninstalled somehow.

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                                  robi
                                  last edited by Aug 27, 2015, 8:48 AM

                                  @n3by:

                                  Do you have that w7 w8.1 update nr ?

                                  http://www.infoworld.com/article/2911609/operating-systems/kb-2952664-compatibility-update-for-win7-triggers-unexpected-daily-telemetry-run-may-be-snooping.html
                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3g7hr0/removing_telemetry_from_windows_7_and_8x/

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                                    KOM
                                    last edited by Aug 27, 2015, 1:40 PM

                                    Thank God I already switched my machines to Linux.

                                    I've been contemplating that for 10+ years, but there was always a reliance on special software that I couldn't get for Linux.  Now that I don't do a lot of desktop stuff at home anymore, I'm thinking now might be the time to dump Win10 and go with Mint Cinnamon.

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                                      robi
                                      last edited by Aug 28, 2015, 5:24 AM

                                      You can find equivalent programs under Linux for most of the daily tasks. No to little effort is required to switch over.
                                      There could be though very special industrial apps which were made for Windows-only, that's true. But for the regular home user, Linux is a perfect alternative.

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                                        KOM
                                        last edited by Aug 28, 2015, 1:26 PM

                                        I've been adminning Linux boxes for more than a decade so I'm generally aware of what's available.  For me, the showstoppers were always a decent money-management app (eg. Quicken, MS Money), a good Usenet browser (eg. Newsleecher, Forte Agent) and a decent RSS reader (eg. Feeddemon, QuiteRSS).  Nowadays I don't use a money app, Usenet indexers have removed the need for an NNTP browser, and there are several decent RSS readers for Linux.  I really should have thought of this 2 weeks ago before I spent a weekend doing the Windows 10 thing.

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                                          foresthus
                                          last edited by Sep 2, 2015, 7:05 AM

                                          @KOM:

                                          A centralized solution would be best.  If you're going to go local, why not just use one of the many utils already out there?

                                          http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

                                          http://pxc-coding.com/portfolio/donotspy10/

                                          Do not use that, you cannot go back without using a " restore point".

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