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How to block in Windows10 Telemetry with pfsense

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  • K
    KOM
    last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:37 PM

    Make an URL alias.

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    • S
      sodasam
      last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:39 PM

      @KOM:

      Make an URL alias.

      That provides the same error and this:

      The following input errors were detected:

      The alias name must be less than 32 characters long, may not consist of only numbers, and may only contain the following characters a-z, A-Z, 0-9, _.
      You must provide a valid URL. Could not fetch usable data from 'vortex.data.microsoft.com'.

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        KOM
        last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:45 PM

        Well, considering I have no idea what you've done, all I can say is that it works fine for me and others.  Perhaps if you posted some actual useful information about your configuration, we might be able to help you.

        An URL Alias is just an URL that points to a file on a web server, and pfSense will load that alias with the content of the text file.

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          sodasam
          last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:50 PM

          @sodasam:

          @KOM:

          Make an URL alias.

          That provides the same error and this:

          The following input errors were detected:

          The alias name must be less than 32 characters long, may not consist of only numbers, and may only contain the following characters a-z, A-Z, 0-9, _.
          You must provide a valid URL. Could not fetch usable data from 'vortex.data.microsoft.com'.

          Sorry here is another example:

          https://imgur.com/2R0sYVW

          I did some searching for where pfsense stores those files on the server but have not been able to find it, any idea?

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            2chemlud Banned
            last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 5:57 PM

            Don't. Use. SPACE. In. The. Name!

            (Block MS Telemetry = wrong, Block_MS_Telemetry = correct) :-D

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              sodasam
              last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:00 PM

              @2chemlud:

              Don't. Use. SPACE. In. The. Name!

              (Block MS Telemetry = wrong, Block_MS_Telemetry = correct) :-D

              Ahh. That helped thanks. I changed the type to hosts and it works now, cheers!

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                sodasam
                last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:05 PM

                Is there a way to block more than 5000 hosts in a single alias or rule? Intending to block inbound tor exit nodes and I think the list is 7000 IP's. Maybe on the command line alias file?

                Thanks!

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                  2chemlud Banned
                  last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:07 PM

                  Tried Snort (on LAN interface) ? Afaik if blocks contacts to TOR servers (have seen it in my Snort alerts), no idea how up-to-date the list of servers is…

                  btw., how about a new thread, this all here is miles OT.... ;-)

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                    LEPM
                    last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:37 PM

                    to block telemetry in a single PC use DWS_lite
                    Open source,code on github.

                    https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/bf600fc1517f65f15f4e174087759973837cfe99e419f2c52f6d248dee6eb72f/analysis/1449685802/

                    https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying/blob/master/DWS

                    string[] ipAddr =
                                {
                                    "111.221.29.177",
                                    "111.221.29.253",
                                    "131.253.40.37",
                                    "134.170.30.202",
                                    "134.170.115.60",
                                    "134.170.165.248",
                                    "134.170.165.253",
                                    "134.170.185.70",
                                    "137.116.81.24",
                                    "137.117.235.16",
                                    "157.55.129.21",
                                    "157.55.133.204",
                                    "157.56.121.89",
                                    "157.56.91.77",
                                    "168.63.108.233",
                                    "191.232.139.254",
                                    "191.232.80.58",
                                    "191.232.80.62",
                                    "191.237.208.126",
                                    //"204.79.197.200", // BING.COM
                                    "207.46.101.29",
                                    "207.46.114.58",
                                    "207.46.223.94",
                                    "207.68.166.254",
                                    "212.30.134.204",
                                    "212.30.134.205",
                                    "23.102.21.4",
                                    "23.99.10.11",
                                    "23.218.212.69",
                                    "64.4.54.22",
                                    "64.4.54.32",
                                    "64.4.6.100",
                                    "65.39.117.230",
                                    "65.52.100.11",
                                    "65.52.100.7",
                                    "65.52.100.9",
                                    "65.52.100.91",
                                    "65.52.100.92",
                                    "65.52.100.93",
                                    "65.52.100.94",
                                    "65.52.108.29",
                                    "65.55.108.23",
                                    "65.55.138.114",
                                    "65.55.138.126",
                                    "65.55.138.186",
                                    "65.55.252.63",
                                    "65.55.252.71",
                                    "65.55.252.92",
                                    "65.55.252.93",
                                    "65.55.29.238",
                                    "65.55.39.10",
                                    "191.232.139.2",
                                    "64.4.23.0-64.4.23.255",
                                    "111.221.64.0-111.221.127.255", // singapure
                                    "157.55.235.0-157.55.235.255",
                                    "157.55.56.0-157.55.56.255",
                                    "157.55.52.0-157.55.52.255",
                                    "157.55.130.0-157.55.130.255",
                                    "65.55.223.0-65.55.223.255",
                                    "213.199.179.0-213.199.179.255", // Ireland
                                    "195.138.255.0-195.138.255.255",
                                    "23.223.20.82", // cache.datamart.windows.com
                                    "77.67.29.176", // NEW TH2 Spy IP
                                    "157.56.124.87", // NEW TH2 Spy IP
                                    "157.55.236.0-157.55.236.255", // NEW TH2 SPY IP
                                    "104.96.147.3",
                                    "23.57.107.27",
                                    "23.57.107.163",
                                    "23.57.101.163",
                                    "2.22.61.43",
                                    "2.22.61.66",
                                    "65.39.117.230",
                                    "23.218.212.69",
                                    "134.170.30.202",
                                    "137.116.81.24",
                                    "157.56.106.189",
                                    "204.79.197.200",
                                    "65.52.108.33"
                                };
                    
                    string[] hostsdomains =
                                    {
                                        "statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net",
                                        "fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net",
                                        "s0.2mdn.net",
                                        "survey.watson.microsoft.com",
                                        "view.atdmt.com",
                                        "watson.microsoft.com",
                                        "watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "vortex.data.microsoft.com",
                                        "vortex-win.data.microsoft.com",
                                        "telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                        "oca.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                        "watson.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                        "redir.metaservices.microsoft.com",
                                        "choice.microsoft.com",
                                        "choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                        "wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "telemetry.appex.bing.net",
                                        "telemetry.urs.microsoft.com",
                                        "telemetry.appex.bing.net:443",
                                        "settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com",
                                        "watson.live.com",
                                        "statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com",
                                        "corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com",
                                        "compatexchange.cloudapp.net",
                                        "a-0001.a-msedge.net",
                                        "sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net",
                                        "diagnostics.support.microsoft.com",
                                        "corp.sts.microsoft.com",
                                        "statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com",
                                        "feedback.windows.com",
                                        "feedback.microsoft-hohm.com",
                                        "feedback.search.microsoft.com",
                                        "rad.msn.com",
                                        "preview.msn.com",
                                        "ad.doubleclick.net",
                                        "ads.msn.com",
                                        "ads1.msads.net",
                                        "ads1.msn.com",
                                        "a.ads1.msn.com",
                                        "a.ads2.msn.com",
                                        "adnexus.net",
                                        "adnxs.com",
                                        "az361816.vo.msecnd.net",
                                        "az512334.vo.msecnd.net",
                                        "ssw.live.com",
                                        "ca.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "i1.services.social.microsoft.com",
                                        "i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                        "df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net",
                                        "vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com",
                                        "oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                        "pre.footprintpredict.com",
                                        "spynet2.microsoft.com",
                                        "spynetalt.microsoft.com",
                                        "fe3.delivery.dsp.mp.microsoft.com.nsatc.net",
                                        "cache.datamart.windows.com",
                                        "db3wns2011111.wns.windows.com", // NEW TH2 spy hosts
                                        //"deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com",
                                        //"akamaitechnologies.com"
                                        "settings-win.data.microsoft.com",
                                        "v10.vortex-win.data.microsoft.com",
                                        "win10.ipv6.microsoft.com",
                                        "ca.telemetry.microsoft.com",
                                        "i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net"
                                    };
                    

                    Windows Update is not blocked !!!

                    Your new system is probably coming with some hyper trash like Windows 8

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                    • 2
                      2chemlud Banned
                      last edited by Dec 9, 2015, 6:41 PM

                      Hi, any details where this list comes from?

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                      • C
                        Caboosey
                        last edited by Jan 18, 2016, 9:57 PM

                        @2chemlud:

                        Hi, any details where this list comes from?

                        It appears the list comes from various people and have noticed it's also used in Spyboy Anti-Beacon program too.

                        I found doing DNSBL as a quicker way to block Windows Telemetry on pfSense. I just setup my pfsense to use DNSBL, which is included in the latest package of pfblockerNG. I told my DNSBL to use as it appears to be updated often:
                        https://raw.githubusercontent.com/WindowsLies/BlockWindows/master/hostslist

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                        • K
                          kripz
                          last edited by Jan 21, 2016, 5:00 AM

                          @Caboosey:

                          @2chemlud:

                          Hi, any details where this list comes from?

                          It appears the list comes from various people and have noticed it's also used in Spyboy Anti-Beacon program too.

                          I found doing DNSBL as a quicker way to block Windows Telemetry on pfSense. I just setup my pfsense to use DNSBL, which is included in the latest package of pfblockerNG. I told my DNSBL to use as it appears to be updated often:
                          https://raw.githubusercontent.com/WindowsLies/BlockWindows/master/hostslist

                          Do you have a guide or basic steps on how to set it up? Never used either before. is DNSBL a preconfigured list found in pfblockerNG?

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                          • RonpfSR
                            RonpfS
                            last edited by Jan 21, 2016, 5:06 PM

                            This is a good starting point https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=102470.0

                            2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                            Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                            Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                            • G
                              garyn
                              last edited by Jan 22, 2016, 7:12 PM

                              In topic 102470 (line above), look for reply #18 on Nov 20, 2015.  Reply #18 walks you through the setup.

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                              • K
                                kripz
                                last edited by Jan 22, 2016, 11:53 PM Jan 22, 2016, 11:47 PM

                                @garyn:

                                In topic 102470 (line above), look for reply #18 on Nov 20, 2015.  Reply #18 walks you through the setup.

                                @RonpfS:

                                This is a good starting point https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=102470.0

                                Thanks guys.

                                In addition to the guide, id like to add that DNSBL is not seperate to pfBlockerNG, it must be enabled for DNSBL to be enabled. Spent 20 mins trying to figure out why DNSBL wouldnt work :D

                                EDIT: Why does it take a few lookups for the IP to be blocked?

                                [2.2.6-RELEASE][root@pfSense.local.lan]/root: drill rad.msn.com
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 17580
                                ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;; rad.msn.com.	IN	A
                                
                                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                rad.msn.com.	690	IN	CNAME	rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.
                                rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.	299	IN	A	111.221.29.189
                                
                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                
                                ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                
                                ;; Query time: 472 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 8.8.4.4
                                ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 23 10:51:18 2016
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 80
                                [2.2.6-RELEASE][root@pfSense.local.lan]/root: drill rad.msn.com
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 11622
                                ;; flags: qr aa rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;; rad.msn.com.	IN	A
                                
                                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                rad.msn.com.	60	IN	A	10.10.10.1
                                
                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                
                                ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                
                                ;; Query time: 0 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1
                                ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 23 10:51:26 2016
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 45
                                [2.2.6-RELEASE][root@pfSense.local.lan]/root: drill rad.live.com
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 59304
                                ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;; rad.live.com.	IN	A
                                
                                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                rad.live.com.	3276	IN	CNAME	rad.msn.com.
                                rad.msn.com.	576	IN	CNAME	rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.
                                rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.	299	IN	A	111.221.29.189
                                
                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                
                                ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                
                                ;; Query time: 334 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8
                                ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 23 10:51:53 2016
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 103
                                [2.2.6-RELEASE][root@pfSense.local.lan]/root: drill rad.live.com
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 53764
                                ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;; rad.live.com.	IN	A
                                
                                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                rad.live.com.	3266	IN	CNAME	rad.msn.com.
                                rad.msn.com.	566	IN	CNAME	rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.
                                rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.	299	IN	A	111.221.29.189
                                
                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                
                                ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                
                                ;; Query time: 1306 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 8.8.4.4
                                ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 23 10:51:57 2016
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 103
                                [2.2.6-RELEASE][root@pfSense.local.lan]/root: drill rad.live.com
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 45495
                                ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;; rad.live.com.	IN	A
                                
                                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                rad.live.com.	3268	IN	CNAME	rad.msn.com.
                                rad.msn.com.	568	IN	CNAME	rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.
                                rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.	299	IN	A	111.221.29.189
                                
                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                
                                ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                
                                ;; Query time: 351 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8
                                ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 23 10:52:01 2016
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 103
                                [2.2.6-RELEASE][root@pfSense.local.lan]/root: drill rad.live.com
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 28183
                                ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;; rad.live.com.	IN	A
                                
                                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                rad.live.com.	3262	IN	CNAME	rad.msn.com.
                                rad.msn.com.	562	IN	CNAME	rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.
                                rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.	295	IN	A	111.221.29.189
                                
                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                
                                ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                
                                ;; Query time: 165 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8
                                ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 23 10:52:03 2016
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 103
                                [2.2.6-RELEASE][root@pfSense.local.lan]/root: drill rad.live.com
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 43314
                                ;; flags: qr aa rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;; rad.live.com.	IN	A
                                
                                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                rad.live.com.	60	IN	A	10.10.10.1
                                
                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                
                                ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                
                                ;; Query time: 0 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1
                                ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 23 10:52:04 2016
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 46
                                
                                
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                                • RonpfSR
                                  RonpfS
                                  last edited by Jan 23, 2016, 1:12 AM

                                  Maybe it is the time for pfBlockerNG to rebuild the database after you made a change.

                                  Go to pfBlockerNG: Update, View log to see when the process is done.

                                  2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                  Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                                  Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                                  • BBcan177B
                                    BBcan177 Moderator
                                    last edited by Jan 23, 2016, 1:36 AM

                                    @kripz:

                                    EDIT: Why does it take a few lookups for the IP to be blocked?

                                    Looks like that domain was previously cached by Unbound…
                                    rad.msn.com.nsatc.net.   299 IN A 111.221.29.189

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                                    • J
                                      jc2it
                                      last edited by Jan 26, 2016, 7:01 PM

                                      So basically you think it's Firefox? But I have no Bing (removed it from search options in Firefox), I use no Bing, I've never been there in my whole live… Firefox was running in PRIVATE mode all the time btw...

                                      So: why does my OS/Browser try to contact OVER AND OVER AGAIN something I've never asked to contact? Things are not really getting better at this point...

                                      2chemlud I believe various other search engines resell Bing results. Is it possible you are using one of these search engines. I am thinking of yahoo in particular, but I would bet there are others.

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                                        2chemlud Banned
                                        last edited by Jan 27, 2016, 7:02 AM

                                        Hi jc2it!

                                        See below, only search machines installed in Firefox are Startpage, Wikipedia adn Duckduckgo…

                                        So which one is your suspect? :-)

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                                          jc2it
                                          last edited by Jan 27, 2016, 10:25 PM

                                          @2chemlud:

                                          So which one is your suspect? :-)

                                          :D Well, that is a good question.

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