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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved 2.3-RC Snapshot Feedback and Issues - ARCHIVED
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    • B Offline
      biggsy
      last edited by

      Just a couple of ideas:

      • Could the source and destination ports could be broken out into separate columns without too much work?

      • Perhaps the Action column labels could be changed to past tense (e.g., "Blocked" vs "Block").

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      • H Offline
        heper
        last edited by

        dot a) looks easy enough todo. adding 2 extra columns will change the spacing them … not sure if it'll help for readability.      <--- will give it a try and post some screenshots
        dot b) thanks

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        • H Offline
          heper
          last edited by

          personally i don't like it very much. what do you & others think?

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            doktornotor Banned
            last edited by

            Shrug.

            • The ports stuff needs to drop the :s
            • Source-port -> Src. Port; Destination-port -> Dst. Port (just wasting space with the column width)
            • The filter should be shrinked back to two rows as it was and grow itself a "hide" feature… Waste of screen estate.
            • Needs some colors for Blocked/Rejected vs. Pass at least. (Is the text really even needed there?)
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              heper
              last edited by

              @doktornotor:

              Shrug.

              • The ports stuff needs to drop the :s
              • Source-port -> Src. Port; Destination-port -> Dst. Port (just wasting space with the column width)
              • The filter should be shrinked back to two rows as it was and grow itself a "hide" feature… Waste of screen estate.
              • Needs some colors for Blocked/Rejected vs. Pass at least. (Is the text really even needed there?)

              -i know about the ":" issue. the get_port_with_service() returns with ":" … didn't bother to go look for that function at this stage

              • gotcha
              • perhaps, not my call
              • one could implement the same icons as shown in firewall_rules.php (they still don't have colors)
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                heper
                last edited by

                i've stepped away from splitting the ports from the ip's.
                ==> there is a  inside the that is used to for reverse-dns-lookup. its called by ajax stuff i don't understand  ;  anyway, it makes it impossible to get the src/dst-port columns anywhere near to source/destination columns.

                so i only fixed the "blocked" thing. it orginally also showed 'blocked' on a PASS log ;)
                if anyone has some good idea's to further improve/adjust, let me know.

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                • DonnyD Offline
                  Donny
                  last edited by

                  @heper:

                  i've stepped away from splitting the ports from the ip's.
                  ==> there is a  inside the that is used to for reverse-dns-lookup. its called by ajax stuff i don't understand  ;  anyway, it makes it impossible to get the src/dst-port columns anywhere near to source/destination columns.

                  so i only fixed the "blocked" thing. it orginally also showed 'blocked' on a PASS log ;)
                  if anyone has some good idea's to further improve/adjust, let me know.

                  Look better now but my suggest is the action should be change to icon (if it possible if not it is ok) and Source-port and  Destination-port should put its back
                  then the "Source-port change to Src. Port" and "Destination-port  change to Dest. Port" It is look more attractive and clearly. see my picture

                  Donny

                  ![Something to Change.png_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Something to Change.png_thumb)
                  ![Something to Change.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/Something to Change.png)

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                    heper
                    last edited by

                    what do you mean by this? they are icons already? icons can be changed ofcourse, but i prefer them to be the same as the ones used in firewall_rules.php

                    but my suggest is the action should be change to icon

                    about the dest.port/src.port:

                    i've stepped away from splitting the ports from the ip's.
                    ==> there is a  inside the that is used to for reverse-dns-lookup. its called by ajax stuff i don't understand  ;  anyway, it makes it impossible to get the src/dst-port columns anywhere near to source/destination columns.

                    if you have a way to get them close together, then i can try again

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                      Donny
                      last edited by

                      @heper:

                      what do you mean by this? they are icons already? icons can be changed ofcourse, but i prefer them to be the same as the ones used in firewall_rules.php

                      but my suggest is the action should be change to icon

                      about the dest.port/src.port:

                      i've stepped away from splitting the ports from the ip's.
                      ==> there is a  inside the that is used to for reverse-dns-lookup. its called by ajax stuff i don't understand  ;  anyway, it makes it impossible to get the src/dst-port columns anywhere near to source/destination columns.

                      if you have a way to get them close together, then i can try again

                      at Act : "block" and "pass" should be change to icon that it used with Firewall. You can also use only word "Block" and "Pass"
                      and change them to the color "Green for pass" and Red for Block" without to use the button or icon.

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                      • B Offline
                        biggsy
                        last edited by

                        Thanks for trying, heper.

                        I'd still prefer to see the port numbers in a separate column but only if it's not going to cause a lot of work.

                        Icon or text work for me.

                        Only as a matter of interest, is there a way to distinguish between between drop and reject?

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                          phil.davis
                          last edited by

                          Only as a matter of interest, is there a way to distinguish between between drop and reject?

                          Yes, there is. While looking at this stuff on 2.3-ALPHA I noticed that the Firewall Log Display is currently hard-coded to always put "Block" as the text in the button.
                          Step 1: That should be fixed so it says "Pass" or "Block" as appropriate.
                          Step 2: Make it use icons instead of words. Use the same icons for "pass", "block", "reject" as are used on the firewall rules display.

                          Then I went to a 2.2.4 and 2.2.5 system to see how it behaved. It always showed the "blocked" icon. The "reject" icon was never displayed - not in 2.2.* and not in 2.3.

                          So I fixed all that in RELENG_2_2 - https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/pull/2012 - hopefully that can make it into 2.2.5

                          For 2.3 then,

                          Step 3: Make the corresponding fixes from https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/pull/2012 RELENG_2_2 in master for 2.3

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                            heper
                            last edited by

                            @phil.davis step1 & 2 are done,
                            do you want to handle handle step 3 ?

                            https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/pull/2013

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                              phil.davis
                              last edited by

                              @heper:

                              @phil.davis step1 & 2 are done,
                              do you want to handle handle step 3 ?

                              https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/pull/2013

                              Yep, I will wait until PR 2012 and 2013 have been reviewed and the final changes committed to the respective branches. Then I will sort out what from PR 2012 in RELENG_2_2 needs to be also done in master.

                              Note: This is all "bug" stuff that needs to be sorted out regardless. After that there is then the suggestions about the UI layout that are the original topic of this thread.

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                                Steve_B Netgate
                                last edited by

                                Replacing those glyphicons which fount-awesome icons ( https://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/ ) do you think make sense for:

                                • Click to resolve

                                • Easyrule: add to block list

                                • Easyrule: pass this traffic

                                ?

                                fa-info
                                fa-minus-square-o
                                fa-plus-square-o

                                perhaps?

                                So many choices  :)

                                I have pushed a change that incorporates these choices as a reference.

                                Als ik kan

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                                  heper
                                  last edited by

                                  @Steve_B:

                                  • Easyrule: add to block list

                                  • Easyrule: pass this traffic

                                  fa-minus-square-o
                                  fa-plus-square-o

                                  perhaps?

                                  personally  "-" & "+"  reminds me of, adding & removing. while in this case, both add a rule (one to block, the other to pass).
                                  so maybe we can make both of them a "+", but use the css  color scheme?  (green=pass , red=block)

                                  or

                                  use different icons altogether perhaps: fa-lock / fa-unlock ?

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                                    divsys
                                    last edited by

                                    Given that icon set, might I suggest using the "hand" series such as:

                                    block:    hand-paper-o or hand-rock-o
                                    reject:  thumbs-o-down
                                    pass:    thumbs-o-up

                                    The addition of colour (red for block and reject, green for pass) would go a long way to adding clarity IMO.

                                    That might give us a consistent and hopefully intuitive way of representing the dual -ve conditions for processing packets.

                                    -jfp

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                                      Steve_B Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      We need to accommodate those who do not see colors clearly. Lock/unlock might work.

                                      Als ik kan

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                                      • DonnyD Offline
                                        Donny
                                        last edited by

                                        Hello, I like firewall log entries layout from the picture here under more than now. For the firewall log layout now at the "Act" column should be on the left side and not right side,  It is look conflicting.
                                        Icons X in the Act column look not attractive. My suggestion is: It is possible to use another icon or icon like firewall. When I point to an icon information and icon + the arrow pointer is disappear.

                                        Donny

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                                          divsys
                                          last edited by

                                          We need to accommodate those who do not see colors clearly.

                                          How about simply use Black on White for +ve and White on Black for -ve (or vice versa as consensus desires)?
                                          I'm suggesting color or contrast (in this case) clues to be used in addition to icon clues.

                                          -jfp

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                                          • BBcan177B Offline
                                            BBcan177 Moderator
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                                            Instead of defining 'icon-danger' and 'icon-success', why not just 'green' and 'red' so those css settings can be used in other places.

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