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HEADS UP: DST Root CA X3 Expiration (September 2021)

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    VioletDragon @JeGr
    last edited by VioletDragon Sep 4, 2021, 10:52 PM Sep 4, 2021, 10:16 PM

    @jegr Update, Just re-new a Cert and deleting both LE's and its still doing the same. Heres another Domain of mine. So not sure what is going.

    login-to-view login-to-view login-to-view login-to-view

    Update,

    The Certs are fine it seems to be a Firefox issue as Chrome/Brave Shows different I also checked it against https://decoder.link/sslchecker/ and checks out fine.

    Thank for your help guys :)

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      JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @VioletDragon
      last edited by Sep 7, 2021, 8:02 AM

      @violetdragon Ah so more of a browser/caching thing - yeah that's a pain in the ass. Good to see it fixed anyway so you won't run into issues at the end of the month :)

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        VioletDragon @JeGr
        last edited by Sep 7, 2021, 8:06 AM

        @jegr Firefox seems to handle it differently. I've noticed that it only happens when signed into a Firefox account so not sure if the account saves the cache but it's a strange one.

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          marcosm Netgate
          last edited by Sep 19, 2021, 4:22 PM

          The browsers / Windows have their own trusted root CAs. I expect that once the old ones expire/get removed/revoked from those built-in stores, the new chain will take precedence and show correctly.

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            sergio.londono
            last edited by Sep 19, 2021, 4:32 PM

            for testing while the SSL expire, We did:

            Delete the expiring Root CA from the client browser.
            login-to-view

            Then, Open private browser:
            login-to-view

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              VioletDragon @sergio.londono
              last edited by Sep 19, 2021, 7:43 PM

              @sergio-londono That's solved the problem, Cheers :)

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                maverick_slo
                last edited by Sep 29, 2021, 7:52 PM

                Hi all.
                We use pfsense 2.4.4 version.
                I did all the steps and all looks ok.

                However reading about openssl, will acme (or any other thing) have issues when renewing certs? Like acme accessing le api which use le cert naturally?

                If so, is there a way to fix it as we are unable to upgrade.

                Thanks.

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                  VioletDragon @maverick_slo
                  last edited by Sep 29, 2021, 8:05 PM

                  @maverick_slo why such a old version of pfsense? I would recommend updating.

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
                    last edited by Sep 29, 2021, 8:45 PM

                    @violetdragon said in HEADS UP: DST Root CA X3 Expiration (September 2021):

                    I would recommend updating.

                    While I would too - but I also have some units still on 2.4.4p3 - covid being the reason, with nobody on site.. And I can not go in - can not risk it. They might have to stay on that version until things really get back to normal. And I can be onside for update, and other remote sites have people there that can be my smart hands if things go belly up. Things normally go fine - but just not something can risk at this time. Maybe he is in the same sort of boat.. I hope he meant p3, this was the latest version before covid became a factor..

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                      VioletDragon @johnpoz
                      last edited by Sep 29, 2021, 9:01 PM

                      @johnpoz that makes sense. I have worked with people that neglects updating or just too lazy to do updates. Certs should be fine providing you have done the fix in this thread. Openssl has been updated since. You can try doing a dry run to see if it fetched a fake Cert if it does then you will be fine until you can update.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
                        last edited by Sep 29, 2021, 11:24 PM

                        @violetdragon I hear ya - you should always be current completely agree 110% Its kind of eating at me that they are not current ;)

                        But these are different times for sure.. Before this I would of pulled the trigger on a sunday evening from home on the update, even if version just came out on saturday ;) Because I knew I could just go in bit early monday if it went belly up..

                        So I am currently more willing to give some people slack on the update.. But yeah stay current I am with ya.

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                          VioletDragon @johnpoz
                          last edited by Sep 30, 2021, 5:15 AM

                          Just thought i'd put this out there, you can verify your SSL Cert by using the following.

                          Tests using TLS 1.3
                          openssl s_client -connect yourdomain.com:443 -tls1_3  
                          
                          Tests using TLS 1.2
                          openssl s_client -connect yourdomain.com:443 -tls1_2 
                          
                          
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                            maverick_slo
                            last edited by Sep 30, 2021, 5:18 AM

                            My certs are fine 🙂
                            My question was actually if acme will have issues obtaining NEW certs from today onwards.

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                              Gertjan @maverick_slo
                              last edited by Sep 30, 2021, 3:07 PM

                              @maverick_slo

                              Noop.
                              Letenscrypt uses the new intermediate and root certificate to sign yours.
                              'We' have to do ... nothing.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                last edited by Sep 30, 2021, 4:21 PM

                                @maverick_slo said in HEADS UP: DST Root CA X3 Expiration (September 2021):

                                My certs are fine 🙂
                                My question was actually if acme will have issues obtaining NEW certs from today onwards.

                                As long as the ACME package is renewing certs with ACME v2 you're fine. Not all of the older versions of the ACME package support that, but if that was a problem, it would have been failing for the last few months already. That's unrelated to this intermediate expiring.

                                I've even copied (edited) ACME package files from a current package version back to a 2.3.x install and it renewed a cert fine there with ACME v2 and got the correct intermediate after I cleared out the old one.

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                                  JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @maverick_slo
                                  last edited by Oct 1, 2021, 8:12 AM

                                  @maverick_slo said in HEADS UP: DST Root CA X3 Expiration (September 2021):

                                  My question was actually if acme will have issues obtaining NEW certs from today onwards.

                                  Acme didn't have problems in the first place. It assigned new Intermediates back like at the start of the year as the revocation was known well in advance. I have systems I haven't touched in over a year that run completely autonomous with acme.sh or certbot (or other LE clients) without a hitch. It's only when local certificate stores or wrong CA chains from the OS etc. mixed with "unable to (auto) update thing" come into play that things go wrong ;)

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                                    Flemmingss @jimp
                                    last edited by Oct 1, 2021, 4:45 PM

                                    @jimp

                                    This one worked for me 😊
                                    Now iOS devices get valid certificates
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                                      mcury @Flemmingss
                                      last edited by mcury Oct 1, 2021, 5:01 PM Oct 1, 2021, 5:00 PM

                                      It seems that this problem is affecting Plex.. It appears to be solved now, but some old devices won't be able to connect through secure connections anymore..

                                      https://forums.plex.tv/t/important-information-about-plex-for-smart-tvs-after-september-30-2021/746506

                                      dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                        DaddyGo @mcury
                                        last edited by Oct 1, 2021, 5:15 PM

                                        @mcury said in HEADS UP: DST Root CA X3 Expiration (September 2021):

                                        It seems that this problem is affecting Plex..

                                        Nope, not only Bro., it also affected our NextCloud servers too 😉

                                        PS:

                                        (Are you all right?
                                        if you have time, we could talk this weekend, long time since I heard the new news from BR)

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                                        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                          mcury @DaddyGo
                                          last edited by Oct 1, 2021, 5:20 PM

                                          Oh, didn't know about NextCloud servers..

                                          I'm all right, thanks for asking, and how about you?

                                          I'll be traveling to Buzios/RJ this weekend, going to the beach hehe
                                          I'll be back on Sunday night, I'll send you a message to give you some news about here, hope everything is better for you guys there in Portugal too =)

                                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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