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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @iTestAndroid
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      @itestandroid said in Inter vLAN comm doesn't work:

      But I ping 10.10.60.10 from VM1 which is another VM on another vLAN it doesn't work.

      If windows machines in other vlans ping each other.. But a unbuntu box can not ping windows machine? That is different than ubuntu can not ping ubuntu, you could have firewall on ubuntu.

      All clients can ping the IP of pfsense in the other vlan - right??

      When you ping another device in the other vlan - that host firewall could be blocking the traffic.

      If you see syn sent traffic in pfsense state.. But no response that screams firewall, or wrong gateway on device trying to ping..

      Simple test.. Sniff on pfsense interface A when client in A pings IP in vlan B.. Do you see the traffic hit pfsense on interface A? Now sniff on interface B on pfsense - do you see that traffic sent on - but no response? If sent on - and no response not pfsense causing you your issues..

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        @johnpoz Yes, Windows VMs can ping every VM from any VLAN.

        Sniffing / tcpdump will be a bit challenging since this is a "production" pfsense and so much going on there.

        But, here's my netplan example

        network:
        ethernets:
        ens1:
        dhcp4: false
        addresses:
        - 10.10.50.15/24
        gateway4: 10.10.50.1
        nameservers:
        addresses: [10.10.50.1]
        routes:
        - to: 10.10.60.0/24
        via: 10.10.50.1
        version: 2

        It was without the "routes" section, I just recently added that, still same. What else I can check?

        All VMs can ping pfSense on their own /24 range IP, meaning
        VM with 10.10.50.10 IP, can ping 10.10.50.1, without "routes" above, it couldn't ping 10.10.60.1 (still pfsense), with route, I can ping pfsense on other vlan, other IP range, but not VMs under that vLAN

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          @johnpoz
          I think I found something super weird

          root@vm1:~# ping 10.50.0.1
          PING 10.50.0.1 (10.50.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
          64 bytes from 10.50.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.461 ms
          64 bytes from 10.50.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.294 ms
          ^C
          --- 10.50.0.1 ping statistics ---
          2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1026ms
          root@vm1:~# ping 10.50.0.10
          PING 10.50.0.10 (10.50.0.10) 56(84) bytes of data.
          From WAN_IP_HERE icmp_seq=1 Destination Net Unreachable
          ^C
          --- 10.50.0.10 ping statistics ---
          2 packets transmitted, 0 received, +1 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1002ms

          You see "WAN_IP_HERE"

          It seems like its related to 1:1 NAT for WAN_IP bindings to these VMs and funnily enough Windows VMs don't have IP bindings....

          Does this give you any clues?

          P.S. Actually... The WAN IP is invalid...

          My WAN IP is /25 range. But it's my main first WAN IP minus 1... so instead of 130, its pointing to 129 which I don't own, thats my WAN gateway IP

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @iTestAndroid
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            @itestandroid said in Inter vLAN comm doesn't work:

            From WAN_IP_HERE icmp_seq=1 Destination Net Unreachable

            What is your outbound nat look like in pfsense? You doing a port forward with 1:1 natting should have nothing to do with clients talking to another local IP on some other vlan..

            Again I ask if you have any sort of policy route on your rules.. Do you have a gateway set?

            These clients that show that wan IP here - do they have more than their single 10.50.0.X IP?

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              @johnpoz No, they have 1 single vLAN internal NAT IP and in pfSense I do 1:1 to give them WAN IP as well so I can SSH into them remotely.

              But I shouldn't see my WAN gateway IP erroring out in PING from inside that VM, that's really weird and strange

              As for route policy, as far as I know I only have 1:1 NAT, that's it. Anything else I should check?

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                @johnpoz
                As for Outbount NAT,

                I have a bunch of auto generated stuff that I can't delete/edit.

                Then I have nothing manually added there in Mappings. Should I have some stuff in there?

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @iTestAndroid
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                  @itestandroid said in Inter vLAN comm doesn't work:

                  see my WAN gateway IP erroring out in PING from inside that VM

                  Yeah trying to wrap my head around that myself.. hmmmmm? Maybe there is something with the 1:1 nat I am not understanding.. Have to play around with it on a VM and see if can duplicate your problem.

                  But in general - doing a 1:1 nat from public IP to rfc1918 IP should have zero to do with that rfc1918 address talking to some other local rfc1918 on a different vlan of yours..

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                    @johnpoz I can even give you TeamViewer access if that's possible instead of you setting things up. It's just weirdest thing to me. No matter what NAT reflection method I chose, no matter what I did with NAT rules, I can't get VMs to ping internal IPs on other vLANs. It goes to gateway.... and errors out

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @iTestAndroid
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                      @itestandroid maybe we can set that up tmrw if that is ok with you... I want to watch the new dave chappelle special on netflix.. And then should be about time for the MLB playoff game to start.. Lets go yanks - have money on them! Love that sports betting is legal - makes baseball exciting ;)

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                        @johnpoz Sure, I'm around. NY Yankees FTW!

                        Just one question till tomorrow, I have an automatically generated rule:

                        127.0.0.0/8 ::1/128 192.168.1.0/24 10.10.50.0/24 10.10.20.0/24
                        in source and source port, destination and destination port is * and NAT Address is pointing to "WAN address" and its for all ports, not static port.

                        Is this normal/OK?

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @iTestAndroid
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                          @itestandroid that is just normal auto outbound nat, like this..

                          nat.jpg

                          Those should be all your networks/vlans and tunnel networks for say openvpn, etc.

                          or do you mean somewhere else?

                          I have an automatically generated rule:

                          Picture always worth 10k words if you ask me.. What gets me thinking your not talking about outbound nat is ""WAN address"" ?? That would be like a port forward?

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