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      DjJoakim @bingo600
      last edited by DjJoakim

      @bingo600 Yes i just did that, and still dosen't work..
      I have also tried to make the same rules for WIFI, just to be sure there was nothing wrong with the device on FAST that i tried to ping, but the problem remains - i can ping LAN but i can't ping the VLAN..
      Edit: Hmmm.. Now i can access FAST from WIFI (VLAN60), but i can't reach WIFI from FAST, So, in this equation the problem is on the other way.
      LAN - FAST Can't ping
      FAST - LAN Can ping
      FAST - WIFI Can't ping
      WIFI - FAST Can ping

      Sorry, i have now enabled the logging for those.

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      Thanks

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        bingo600 @DjJoakim
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        @djjoakim

        What can you ping from Lan (your 192.168.1.103)

        Can you ping 192.168.1.1
        Can you ping 10.0.0.1
        Can you ping 172.18.0.1

        How does your RFC1918 definition look

        /Bingo

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          DjJoakim @bingo600
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          @bingo600 Hmm, strange.
          I did an edit on my last post, i tried to "reduce" the issue so i tried the same thing on my other vlan, WIFI. And when i did that, the problem is on the other way. From WIFI i can reach FAST, but from FAST i can't reach WIFI, something is really strange here.

          To answer you'r question, from my PC (LAN) i can only ping 192.168.1.1, it dosen't respond on anything else. (While on my WIFI, i can ping 172.18.0.1, 172.19.0.1, 192.168.1.1, and the same on FAST)
          Sorry, i am not trying to confuse the situation by starting to talk about the WIFI vlan, i just think it's strange that the problem is on the other way around there.

          Anyways, here is my RFC1918

          RFC.png

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            DjJoakim @DjJoakim
            last edited by DjJoakim

            Hmm okey, well - forget about that WIFI connection, i used my brain and figured out that it probably had something with windows firewall to do, said and done - when i turn off the firewall on that WIFI device, i can reach it from FAST - so clearly it was something wrong at that side.
            So, since everything works with the firewall settings in that VLAN, it seems like there is something really wrong with my LAN, and maybe not PFsense fault...

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              bingo600 @DjJoakim
              last edited by bingo600

              @djjoakim

              That RFC1918 rule is outright "Sick" .....

              RFC1918 should be defined like this.

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              Dammm šŸ¤•

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                DjJoakim @bingo600
                last edited by

                @bingo600 I followed this "guide" https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/multiwan/policy-route.html#bypassing-policy-routing
                Isn't it how i should do it? šŸ˜“

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                  DjJoakim @bingo600
                  last edited by

                  @bingo600 Ooops.. Well, fixed now 😌

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                    bingo600 @DjJoakim
                    last edited by bingo600

                    @djjoakim

                    @djjoakim said in VLAN won't communicate with LAN:

                    @bingo600 I followed this "guide" https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/multiwan/policy-route.html#bypassing-policy-routing
                    Isn't it how i should do it? šŸ˜“

                    Yes but do as they write

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                    Can i see your RFC1819 rule now please

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                      DjJoakim @bingo600
                      last edited by

                      @bingo600 Yeah sorry, i am new to this.. one step at a time šŸ¤•

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                        bingo600 @DjJoakim
                        last edited by

                        @djjoakim

                        Would work ...

                        But please don't call it RFC1918

                        Call it LOCAL_LANS or something

                        RFC1918 is

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                          DjJoakim @bingo600
                          last edited by

                          @bingo600 Yep, changed it... I saw RFC1918 was on the "WAN" rule, so i didn't wan't to confuse it, so now it's called Local_lan.

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                            bingo600 @DjJoakim
                            last edited by

                            @djjoakim

                            The guy making this RFC1918 Alias should be ....... 😠

                            I'm 90% sure that every "professional" in here would expect a RFC1918 alias to contain :

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                              bingo600 @DjJoakim
                              last edited by

                              @djjoakim said in VLAN won't communicate with LAN:

                              @bingo600 Yep, changed it... I saw RFC1918 was on the "WAN" rule, so i didn't wan't to confuse it, so now it's called Local_lan.

                              If it's used on the WAN
                              Did you remember to change it back to the hosts it contained , not the networks you made.

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                                bingo600 @bingo600
                                last edited by

                                @bingo600

                                How is your pfSense behaving now , with pings etc ....
                                Should behave as expected now ....

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                                  DjJoakim @bingo600
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                                  @bingo600 When i mean't i saw it on WAN, i mean't this. This is nothing i have put there.
                                  whatimeant.png

                                  Yes, well.. something else is wrong in my setup, i just realised, it's not related to PFsense. Bc now with my WIFI unit, i can reach FAST, and from FAST i can reach my WIFI.
                                  But, from FAST i can reach LAN and from LAN i can't reach FAST, so the problem lays in my PC, i just need to figure out where it is...

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                                    bingo600 @DjJoakim
                                    last edited by

                                    @djjoakim
                                    Ah ... That alias is a pfSense internal , no worries.
                                    But the home made RFC1918 Alias , not being the full range ....

                                    I'd try to reboot the firewall first , before ripping the PC apart.
                                    Real reboot , not just clear states.

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                                      bingo600 @bingo600
                                      last edited by

                                      @bingo600

                                      A Tip of Experience....
                                      Move your lan away from 192.168.1.0/24
                                      Move your WiFi away from 10.0.0.0/24

                                      They are always used , and might "Bite your ..." if/when you have to run a VPN to a buddy , that also uses those two

                                      And why have you used a network from each of the 3 RFC1918 ranges ??
                                      Why haven't you used all your internal nets in the same range ...

                                      Ie.

                                      10.42.0.0/16 = Home Lan

                                      10.42.1.0/24 = Lan
                                      10.42.64.0/24 = WiFi
                                      10.42.128.0/24 = Fast
                                      10.42.129.0/24 = EJFast

                                      etc ......

                                      Er du norsk ?

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                                        DjJoakim @bingo600
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                                        @bingo600 Alright, thanks.

                                        Yeah well since i am very new to this, i have watched alot of youtube guides, and a friend of mine who is somehow better at this then me, has helped alot aswell.
                                        But yeah, i understand how you mean - that do sound better.. I will figure out why my PC won't communicate with the other subnets and then i will re-do my ip adresses in my firewall.
                                        I think the problem maybe something wrong in my switch..

                                        Since you seem to be alot better at this then me, can you just confirm this settings(?) I think i have done it like netgate site says it should be done, i have set Do not create rules when gateway is down in the settings. My goal here is that if my vpn client goes down, the devices connected to it can't leak into my regular WAN.

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                                        Inte norsk, men vƤldigt nƤra granne... ;)

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                                          bingo600 @DjJoakim
                                          last edited by bingo600

                                          @djjoakim said in VLAN won't communicate with LAN:

                                          @bingo600 Alright, thanks.

                                          But yeah, i understand how you mean - that do sound better.. I will figure out why my PC won't communicate with the other subnets and then i will re-do my ip adresses in my firewall.

                                          You will be happier later on.
                                          And now is the time to do it , before you have to move tonzz of devices.

                                          I think the problem maybe something wrong in my switch..

                                          Your switch is a L2 (Layer 2) device, i would expect.
                                          Brand/Model ?

                                          If it works one way and not the other , it's usually not on L2.
                                          Unless you have short circuited some vlans.

                                          Since you seem to be alot better at this then me, can you just confirm this settings(?) I think i have done it like netgate site says it should be done, i have set Do not create rules when gateway is down in the settings. My goal here is that if my vpn client goes down, the devices connected to it can't leak into my regular WAN.

                                          I would change the first LOKALA til FAST net.

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                                          That line would cause anything having a FAST net IP , to be "dropped/denyed" if destination is one of the ip's matching the nets in LOKALA.

                                          Now get the logging enabled on those DENY lines ...
                                          You will make your life so much easier.

                                          If they log kazillions of lines , you can consider removing them , but else you will be happy to see what is being blocked.

                                          Inte norsk, men vƤldigt nƤra granne... ;)

                                          Heh ... Har et Torp nƤre Laholm.

                                          Vet du der er et Svensk forum her
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                                            DjJoakim @bingo600
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                                            @bingo600 Yeah, i just wan't the LAN to communicate with VLAN first.. then i will swap ip's ;) one problem at a time...

                                            I have a TP-Link TL-SG105E Switch, but i tried to change my LAN in a different port (witch i thought was the problem) but the problem is still there, i also disabled my windows firewall.. And yep, still not working.

                                            Alright, now i have done that (Changed lokala to FAST net) Yes, i will turn on logging for that - there is no so many devices so it's true, it would be really nice to see the log what's blocking and what's not.. You are right about that.

                                            Ah! En kompis har en stuga i Gƶrdalen, precis bredvid norska grƤnsen. Brukar vara dƤr pƄ vintrarna.. :)
                                            Hade faktiskt ingen aning de fanns ett svensk forum, ska kolla in det :) Tack!

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