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    Unable to open port 8883 for MyQ garage opener

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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @cheapie408
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      @cheapie408

      If an IoT device requires inbound port forwards or rules, return it.

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
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      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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        cheapie408 @Derelict
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        @derelict I'm about to do just that.

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @cheapie408
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          @cheapie408

          I think they are being typical support monkeys.

          I remember it took a while to get them on the wifi but since I got that worked out they've been working fine. Opened the garage for my daughter while I was on the beach a couple states away. :)

          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
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          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @cheapie408
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            @cheapie408

            These are the states:

            IOT 	tcp 	172.29.98.227:51798 -> 20.62.215.172:8883 	ESTABLISHED:ESTABLISHED 	4.391 K / 4.387 K 	191 KiB / 178 KiB 	
            IOT 	tcp 	172.29.98.228:61648 -> 40.83.217.203:8883 	ESTABLISHED:ESTABLISHED 	1.067 K / 1.064 K 	47 KiB / 43 KiB 	
            IOT 	tcp 	172.29.98.229:54858 -> 13.88.21.103:8883 	ESTABLISHED:ESTABLISHED 	240 / 237 	12 KiB / 10 KiB
            

            All outbound connections....

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            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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              cheapie408 @Derelict
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              it's showing connected on my Wifi I can ping it and all. In fact it sits 3 ft from one of my AP. It's been showing online for awhile but the app says that it's offline.

              It's annoying is that it would drop in and out. I'd send a command and it would not do anything and then in the middle of no where it would open or close the garage

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                cheapie408 @cheapie408
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                btw I did a test port and received this. 171 is the address of the myq device

                50547f8c-6750-4277-9e57-88c15d2157fb-image.png

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @cheapie408
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                  @cheapie408

                  8883 is the port the cloud servers listen on, not the door openers. They connect to My-Q on TCP/8883 not the other way around. You might want to talk to the people who installed the opener to see if they understand how it all works.

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @cheapie408
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                    @cheapie408 said in Unable to open port 8883 for MyQ garage opener:

                    Support said this needs to be open for it to work

                    As @Derelict stated this connection is outbound. I have a MyQ and I have NO Inbound ports to it at all. Works great..

                    What are you outbound rules?

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @johnpoz
                      last edited by Derelict

                      @johnpoz The wisdom of doing this at all can be questioned lol. I can only hope that they are using something like a private key from the secure enclave to sign requests to open the doors and that they did it all right.

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Derelict
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @derelict said in Unable to open port 8883 for MyQ garage opener:

                        that they did it all right.

                        I found this - does seem like there are some local stuff you can do via rf, etc.

                        IoT stuff is always a question.. But overall from this finishing comment, it seems to be one of the better implementations.

                        https://www.mcafee.com/blogs/other-blogs/mcafee-labs/we-be-jammin-bypassing-chamberlain-myq-garage-doors/


                        We would like to finish by commenting that the likelihood of a real-world attack on this target is low, based on the complexity of the attack and installation footprint. We have discussed this with Chamberlain, who has validated the findings and agrees with this assessment. Chamberlain has made clear efforts to build a secure product and appears to have eliminated much of the low-hanging fruit common to IoT devices

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz Good article. Thanks.

                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            cheapie408 @Derelict
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                            @derelict I'll have to dig into this. I already have an existing remote garage opener tied to HomeSeer this MyQ was an impulse buy more or less a backup so not critical. Maybe I'll hack it up and see if I can make it local.

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @cheapie408
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                              @cheapie408 said in Unable to open port 8883 for MyQ garage opener:

                              Maybe I'll hack it up and see if I can make it local.

                              I don't know what that means but good luck.

                              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                cheapie408
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                                Since I last posted this, I gave up and turned off my PFSense and moved to use the Xfinity Xfi router as my last resort. After several months, it was unbearable to deal with the Xfi router so I moved my network back to the PFSense.

                                While I was using the Xfi router and even an old Asus router the garage opener worked flawlessly. As soon as I moved it to the PFsense it acted up again.

                                Still looking for a solution to this. :(

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                                  viragomann @cheapie408
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                                  @cheapie408
                                  So when you check the states in pfSense, did you see your device connected to anything on destination port 8883?

                                  Is the device on a segmented network?
                                  Are there other devices in its subnet, which can successfully connect to the internet?

                                  Possibly pfBlockerNG or something else is blocking the connection?

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                                    Jarhead @cheapie408
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                                    @cheapie408 Set up a VPN and stop opening ports for anything.
                                    You'll be glad you did!

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @cheapie408
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                                      @cheapie408 said in Unable to open port 8883 for MyQ garage opener:

                                      Still looking for a solution to this. :(

                                      Solution to what exactly.. There are no inbound traffic needed for this, there is no UPnP needed for this.. The chamberlin hub makes outbound connections on that port..

                                      I just looked and here is mine

                                      hub.jpg

                                      3.99 is my hub IP..

                                      There is nothing in pfsense that would prevent this out of the box. Been working for years on pfsense for me - zero to do.. So unless you are blocking outbound traffic, there is nothing to do. Are you running IPS, or using block lists for ips in pfblocker?

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                                        cheapie408
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                                        I google this issue and there seems to be several other people with the exact issue.

                                        For kicks, I added a DMZ VLAN on PFSense and Created a seperate network assigned to the DMZ VLan I only have the MyQ device on this and it has been working for the past hour.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @cheapie408
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          @cheapie408 so your saying on the lan with any any rule it doesn't work, but on a new network say 192.168.2/24 instead of 192.168.1/24 and any any rules it works without any problems??

                                          Think about that for like .2 seconds - does that even possible remotely sound like it could happen?

                                          Are you routing traffic out a vpn? Have you messed with outbound nat other then automatic?

                                          This works for years for me - even linked to article how this works. There is nothing special going on there - this is like your browser going to www.google.com - its just a different port.. Pfsense doesn't care what port your talking on outbound.. tcp is tcp is tcp, etc..

                                          Maybe you had a duplicate IP setup for what IP your hub was? Without some actual specifics from you it is impossible what odd thing you had going on.. But there is nothing special you have to do in pfsense to allow that device to work.. That would work straight out of the box..

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                                            cheapie408 @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz

                                            Here's what my rule looks like. I honestly don't know I've been doing so many different things and the only thing that works on setting up a DMZ VLAN
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