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    Speed and Duplex vs Switch Link Light

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      newUser2pfSense
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      Unfortunately, since it's an unmanaged switch, I don't believe there is a method to connect to it to see what it's speed and duplex is, unless someone knows of a way.

      Interestingly though, I have other devices connected to this switch that shows the gigabit link light on.

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        rcoleman-netgate Netgate @newUser2pfSense
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        @newuser2pfsense GS116PP-100NAS is unmanaged? weird. My GS110P's are not.

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @newUser2pfSense
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          @newuser2pfsense Did you try a different port or change out patch cables?

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            newUser2pfSense
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            @SteveITS
            I tried several of the other ports on the Netgear GS116PP-100NAS PoE+ switch with the same results. I didn't try all of the ports though.

            When I tested the ethernet cable by connecting it to the old switch, the Cisco branded switch, I got the gig link light.

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              JKnott @newUser2pfSense
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              @newuser2pfsense

              Make sure the cable in OK. A defective cable can work at 100 Mb, but prevent proper negotiation.

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                rcoleman-netgate Netgate @JKnott
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                @jknott Not just that - I have 20-year old CAT5 plenum that will only connection 10mbps or 100mbps no matter the length. Works fine for IoT stuff.

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                  SteveITS Galactic Empire @rcoleman-netgate
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                  @rcoleman-netgate I’ve seen cat 5 (not 5e) with gigabit NICs at both ends result in both devices thinking they connected at gigabit but actually have too many errors to function well. If one is lucky they drop down to 100 but not always.

                  So @newUser2pfSense I’d try another cable if you have one.

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                    JKnott @rcoleman-netgate
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                    @rcoleman-netgate

                    Nothing wrong with CAT5 at Gb. If you can only get 100 Mb then you're likely only using 2 pair and Gb needs all 4.

                    BTW, my cabling in my condo is plain CAT5. I had my cable company pull it in when they installed my cable modem, including running coax from one end of my unit to the other. They did a very nice job running it inside walls, along air ducts etc..

                    Gb Ethernet was designed for plain CAT5 and predates 5e.

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                      JKnott @SteveITS
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                      @steveits

                      If you're getting errors on plain CAT5, you have other issues. Gb was designed to work with plain CAT5. The only difference between CAT5 and 5e is the tolerances were tightened. Beyond that, the specs are the same. As mention in my other note, I have CAT5 here, as that was all that was available in the late 90s when it was installed.

                      One thing a lot of people don't realize is that Ethernet cable requires proper installation. You can't have tight bends or use plain wire staples to hold it down. That will deform the cable and cause an impedance bump in the cable. If you must use staples, use the plastic ones that spreads the pressure.

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                        rcoleman-netgate Netgate @JKnott
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                        @jknott The cable comes from the early days of 802.3ab so I am absolutely certain it wasn't built to that spec. And, again, it's over 20 years old. I forgot I had it until a few years ago.

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                          JKnott @rcoleman-netgate
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                          @rcoleman-netgate

                          Gb Ethernet was designed to work over the then existing CAT5 cable. The cable was not created just for Ethernet. Same thing with 10baseT. It was originally StarLAN, which was designed to run over the commonly available CAT3 cable that was used to connect telephones.

                          Here's a quote from the Wikipedia article:
                          "IEEE 802.3ab, ratified in 1999, defines Gigabit Ethernet transmission over unshielded twisted pair (UTP) category 5, 5e or 6 cabling, and became known as 1000BASE-T. With the ratification of 802.3ab, Gigabit Ethernet became a desktop technology as organizations could use their existing copper cabling infrastructure."

                          CAT5e superceded CAT5 in 2001, which is 2 years after 802.3ab.

                          BTW, I used to work in planning for a major telecom and ordered a LOT of cable of various types and I had to pay attention to the details.

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                            newUser2pfSense
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                            I just tried a different cable and no joy; the same issue.

                            I have another assigned interface on my pfSense box that's connected to a different unmanaged Netgear (no PoE) switch that does have the gig link light on. For s***s and giggles, I plugged this interface cable into the Netgear GS116PP-100NAS PoE+ switch and got the same thing, no gig link light.

                            I have a 4-port SuperMicro gigabit NIC in my pfSense box. I wonder if it's a negotiation issue between the SuperMicro NIC and the Netgear GS116PP-100NAS PoE+ switch?

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                              JKnott @newUser2pfSense
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                              @newuser2pfsense

                              If that NIC is the common element, then yes it could be the problem. What happens if you just connect another computer in place of the pfsense box?

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                                JKnott @newUser2pfSense
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                                @newuser2pfsense

                                One other thing, take a look at the gold wires in the Ethernet connector. Sometimes they are bent or knocked out of position. Either could cause a drop to 100 Mb, if all 4 pairs are not usable.

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

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