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    pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Try to ping something in the VLAN20 subnet and it will ARP for it.

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NRgia
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        @nrgia trying pinging some IP from pfsense, it would for sure atleast send arps that would be tagged or should be.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Yeah so try running: tcpdump -e -i ix2 vlan

          Then try to ping anything in the vlan 20 or 30 subnets from pfSense. You should see at least the ARP traffic and how it's tagged.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Are you running any version of the netgraph vlan0 tagging scripts for your WAN?

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              NRgia @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10
              So I pinged 192.168.10.56 which is that Smart hub. From pfsense on the native LAN ->VLAN 20

              16:22:15.815491 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.56 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
              16:22:15.829472 d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x25 query
              16:22:16.063582 90:e6:ba:31:03:2f (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:7f:ff:fa (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 143: Sperry.Blueshift.63312 > 239.255.255.250.ssdp: UDP, length 101
              16:22:16.066237 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.129.102, length 46
              16:22:16.336837 08:36:c9:2a:16:e7 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: 08:36:c9:2a:16:e7 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x23 reply
              16:22:16.507280 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP,
              Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
              16:22:16.529972 cc:40:d0:52:32:7d (oui Unknown) > 01:80:c2:00:00:40 (oui Unknown), ethertype Slow Protocols (0x8809), length 60: unknown (136), length 46
                      0x0000:  880f 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
                      0x0010:  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
                      0x0020:  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
              16:22:16.823906 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.56 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
              16:22:16.830303 d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x25 query
              16:22:17.105431 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.129.102, length 46
              16:22:17.213672 80:ee:73:bb:0e:55 (oui Unknown) > ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 92: 172.18.0.5.37282 > Entaro.Blueshift.nut: Flags [P.], seq 503429173:503429199, ack 3130284466, win 1027,
              options [nop,nop,TS val 1992520480 ecr 754440160], length 26
              16:22:17.213730 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 80:ee:73:bb:0e:55 (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 66: Entaro.Blueshift.nut > 172.18.0.5.37282: Flags [.], ack 26, win 514, options [nop,nop,TS val 754445177
              ecr 1992520480], length 0
              16:22:17.213804 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 80:ee:73:bb:0e:55 (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 93: Entaro.Blueshift.nut > 172.18.0.5.37282: Flags [P.], seq 1:28, ack 26, win 514, options [nop,nop,TS val 754445177
              ecr 1992520480], length 27
              16:22:17.256772 80:ee:73:bb:0e:55 (oui Unknown) > ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 66: 172.18.0.5.37282 > Entaro.Blueshift.nut: Flags [.], ack 28, win 1027, options [nop,nop,TS val 1992520523
              ecr 754445177], length 0
              16:22:17.829565 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.56 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
              16:22:17.831107 d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x25 query
              16:22:18.145452 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.129.102, length 46
              16:22:18.164338 dc:f5:05:70:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 358: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP,
              Request from dc:f5:05:70:fa:8a (oui Unknown), length 308
              16:22:18.336871 08:36:c9:2a:16:e7 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: 08:36:c9:2a:16:e7 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x23 reply
              16:22:18.532211 cc:40:d0:52:32:7d (oui Unknown) > 01:80:c2:00:00:40 (oui Unknown), ethertype Slow Protocols (0x8809), length 60: unknown (136), length 46
                      0x0000:  880f 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
                      0x0010:  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
                      0x0020:  0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
              16:22:18.831961 d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x25 query
              16:22:18.832041 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.56 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
              16:22:18.832237 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 90:e6:ba:31:03:2f (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 134: Entaro.Blueshift.6675 > Sperry.Blueshift.2463: Flags [P.], seq 177:257, ack 64, win 65535, length 80
              16:22:18.873300 90:e6:ba:31:03:2f (oui Unknown) > ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 60: Sperry.Blueshift.2463 > Entaro.Blueshift.6675: Flags [.], ack 257, win 63536, length 0
              16:22:19.832759 d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype RRCP (0x8899), length 60: d8:0d:17:4e:7a:13 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, RRCP-0x25 query
              16:22:19.844918 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.56 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
              16:22:19.845097 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 90:e6:ba:31:03:2f (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 134: Entaro.Blueshift.6675 > Sperry.Blueshift.2463: Flags [P.], seq 257:337, ack 64, win 65535, length 80
              16:22:19.885283 90:e6:ba:31:03:2f (oui Unknown) > ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 60: Sperry.Blueshift.2463 > Entaro.Blueshift.6675: Flags [.], ack 337, win 63456, length 0
              16:22:20.106267 90:e6:ba:31:03:2f (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:7f:ff:fa (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 143: Sperry.Blueshift.63312 > 239.255.255.250.ssdp: UDP, length 101
              16:22:20.108822 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.129.102, length 46
              16:22:20.161707 80:ee:73:bb:0e:55 (oui Unknown) > ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 82: 172.18.0.5.51157 > Entaro.Blueshift.nut: Flags [P.], seq 3582196994:3582197010, ack 3023361596, win 1027,
              options [nop,nop,TS val 3498492293 ecr 4079702838], length 16
              16:22:20.161765 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 80:ee:73:bb:0e:55 (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 66: Entaro.Blueshift.nut > 172.18.0.5.51157: Flags [.], ack 16, win 514, options [nop,nop,TS val 4079712813
              ecr 3498492293], length 0
              
              

              172.18.0.0 is the native LAN

              the dump is on ix2

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                NRgia @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                netgraph

                I saw "netgraph"in that defect. So If I don't know what it means, I think I don't use it.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  @nrgia said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                  16:22:16.823906 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.56 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28

                  Ok, so we see pfSense sending traffic as expected. But no response. Presumably because that device is behind some sort of odd double tagging somehow.

                  Can you try pinging something else in that subnet?

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                    NRgia @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10 how do you want the dump to be, on ix2(Native) or ix2.20(VLAN)?

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                      NRgia @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 No VLANS on WAN, just on LAN ix2 interface

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                        NRgia @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10 said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                        Yeah so try running: tcpdump -e -i ix2 vlan

                        Then try to ping anything in the vlan 20 or 30 subnets from pfSense. You should see at least the ARP traffic and how it's tagged.

                        Ok did what you asked:

                        pinged another 192.168.10.58

                         tcpdump -e -i ix2 vlan
                        tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
                        listening on ix2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes
                        16:44:07.012079 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, et                                                                                                                           hertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.231.56, length 46
                        16:44:07.089429 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, e                                                                                                                           thertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:07.531974 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, e                                                                                                                           thertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 2                                                                                                                           8:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                        16:44:07.751772 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, e                                                                                                                           thertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:08.090969 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, et                                                                                                                           hertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.231.56, length 46
                        16:44:08.116574 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, e                                                                                                                           thertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:09.121573 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:09.131032 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.231.56, length 46
                        16:44:09.191236 cc:f4:11:c5:bc:81 (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 350: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from cc:f4:11:c5:bc:81 (oui Unknown), length 300
                        16:44:10.048919 cc:f4:11:c5:bc:81 (oui Unknown) > 33:33:00:00:0c:0c (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 108: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv6, fe80::cef4:11ff:fec5:bc81.10101 > ff05::c0c.10101: UDP, length 38
                        16:44:10.048986 cc:f4:11:c5:bc:81 (oui Unknown) > 33:33:00:0c:00:0c (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 108: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv6, fe80::cef4:11ff:fec5:bc81.10101 > ff02::c:c.10101: UDP, length 38
                        16:44:10.166995 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:10.532377 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                        16:44:11.180544 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:12.204575 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:13.037319 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.231.56, length 46
                        16:44:13.194665 dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 358: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown), length 308
                        16:44:13.220498 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:14.091153 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.231.56, length 46
                        16:44:14.222187 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:14.532642 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                        16:44:15.131325 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.231.56, length 46
                        16:44:15.229386 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:16.253933 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:17.074123 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.231.56, length 46
                        16:44:17.285564 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:17.872307 dc:f5:05:70:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 358: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from dc:f5:05:70:fa:8a (oui Unknown), length 308
                        16:44:18.091162 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.231.56, length 46
                        16:44:18.288921 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:18.532216 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                        16:44:19.131218 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has Sperry.Blueshift tell 169.254.231.56, length 46
                        16:44:19.290397 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:20.314943 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:20.723599 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 140: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 [2q] PTR (QM)? _%9E5E7C8F47989526C9BCD95D24084F6F0B27C5ED._sub._googlecast._tcp.local. PTR (QM)? _googlecast._tcp.local. (94)
                        16:44:20.724545 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 402: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/0 PTR SHIELD-Android-TV-ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32._googlecast._tcp.local., (Cache flush) A 172.18.0.14, (Cache flush) SRV ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32.local.:8009 0 0, (Cache flush) TXT "id=ee41442d2c14cc09fde82be16f84be32" "cd=3CABD325728E72997BA6735F95651E36" "rm=" "ve=05" "md=SHIELD Android TV" "ic=/setup/icon.png" "fn=SHIELD" "ca=463365" "st=0" "bs=FA8F14F198FB" "nf=1" "rs=" (356)
                        16:44:20.744088 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.60 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        16:44:21.378435 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 46: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype ARP, Request who-has 192.168.10.58 tell 192.168.10.1, length 28
                        ^C
                        37 packets captured
                        6046 packets received by filter
                        0 packets dropped by kernel
                        
                        
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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          The native (parent) NIC. We need to see the tagged traffic in the pcap and capturing on the VLAN removes that.

                          Using tcpdump -e -i ix2 vlan will show only VLAN tagged traffic which will make things easier to read.

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                            Hmm, so that clarifies what we saw before. The only incoming traffic is strangely double tagged.

                            But that does prove we can see incoming tagged traffic. Which implies nothing else is sending VLAN 20 tagged replies.

                            Do devices at .58 and .60 actually exist? Can you check for the incoming ARP requests there?

                            There has been some driver changes in ix including that specific fix for VLAN0 traffic but that was before 22.01 not between that and 22.05....

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                              NRgia @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                              Hmm, so that clarifies what we saw before. The only incoming traffic is strangely double tagged.

                              But that does prove we can see incoming tagged traffic. Which implies nothing else is sending VLAN 20 tagged replies.

                              Do devices at .58 and .60 actually exist? Can you check for the incoming ARP requests there?

                              There has been some driver changes in ix including that specific fix for VLAN0 traffic but that was before 22.01 not between that and 22.05....

                              This is what I have on DHCP leases screen:

                              https://imgur.com/a/FOgNOyU

                              They exist but they are offline

                              Only IOT devices are on these VLANS, most of them are Wireless, the only one wired is 192.168.10.58 and connected to a specific port.

                              The last pfSense that worked(besides 22.01), to have timeline, was pfSense-CE-memstick-2.7.0-DEVELOPMENT-amd64-20220314-1916. After that all snapshots behaved like it is now.

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                                NRgia @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 Can we try something else...I don't try to be smart or anything, but how do I set those 2 VLANS to have PROMISC tag? I know it works for you. But maybe we can try

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                                  @nrgia said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                                  VLANS to have PROMISC tag?

                                  just set it with ifconfig

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                                    NRgia @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz
                                    Yep figured it out from here https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?ifconfig

                                    As you said, it does not work but I had to try. Don't get my wrong, thank you both for what you did until now. I'm just desperate. :)

                                    I'm open to ideas, if you still have any.

                                    Would it be useful to compare with a dump from 22.01, to see how vlans are handled there in my case? Should I revert back for now? Or should we try something else?

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                                    • stephenw10S
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                                      I would get a laptop on an access port on one of those VLANs so you can see what's happening at that end.

                                      It's possible something got fixed and that has broken your setup because the double tagged traffic is now dropped as expected.
                                      We don't see double tagged ARP replies from those devices though so it's unclear if they ever see the requests.

                                      What is handling the VLANs in between? How is it configured?

                                      Steve

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                                        @nrgia if I had to "guess" something changed in the driver with that 0 tag.. that is a "guess".. @stephenw10 might have some other stuff to try/look at.

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                                        • stephenw10S
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                                          We know that something did change: https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-src/commit/9c762cc125c0c2dae9fbf49cc526bb97c14b54a4

                                          Hence my suggestion that it could be the VLAN0 tags were being incorrectly passed in 22.01 and before that 'fix'.

                                          There shouldn't be any VLAN0 tagging happening here though.

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                                            NRgia @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10
                                            A Netgear switch....could it be that for some switches that VLAN 1 to be untagged, and for others VLAN0. Could it be that pfsense 22.01 had VLAN1 for untagged and now pfsense 22.05 have VLAN 0 for untagged ? Or I speak nonsense ?

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