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    pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NRgia
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      @nrgia said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

      primary switch what do you have for native 1 or 0 ?

      My default is 9 ;) common practice to move away from 1 in the enterprise. Have never seen 0 to be honest.. Its more of a special use ID, have never ever seen 0 used on a switch as the default vlan. Every switch that I can remember has always been 1 as the default vlan.

      switch.jpg

      Notice - doesn't allow you to set 0, its 1-4094

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        NRgia @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10
        The Model is GS116Ev2 firmware version 2.6.0.48

        VLAN1
        https://imgur.com/Js7iYjc

        VLAN20
        https://imgur.com/keYmhMB

        VLAN30
        https://imgur.com/gW0qBhc

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NRgia
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          @nrgia why do you not have any untagged ports in your 10 or 20 vlans? Do you have no devices actually plugged into this switch on those vlans, and only other switches or AP?

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            The QoS and PVID tabs?

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              NRgia @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz
              So it's like this
              On port 5 it is connected a Unifi AP - VLAN aware
              On port 15 is pfsense (LAN side)

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                The more I look into this the more it looks like an incorrect QoS setting being applied.

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                  NRgia @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10

                  PVID:
                  https://imgur.com/1hOGcjW

                  QOS page 1

                  https://imgur.com/GdPzhEn

                  QOS page 2

                  https://imgur.com/jS8Px5Y

                  QOS page 3

                  https://imgur.com/ef3h9kF

                  If this don't work I can hook up a laptop with Manjaro if you tell me what to do

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by stephenw10

                    Hmm, well you wouldn't expect it to be doing anything with those settings but try setting QoS to 802.1p mode with no port selected and see if that changes anything in pcaps.

                    It pretty much has to be the switch doing that since it's just passing the tagged traffic.

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                      NRgia @stephenw10
                      last edited by NRgia

                      @stephenw10

                      I will do as you say, but I remind you that with pfsense 22.01 worked, I did not touch the switches.

                      So, first change the setting and then to do a dump from where? pfsense or hook up a laptop to vlan2.20 port ?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by stephenw10

                        I'd repeat the previous dump where we could see the double tagged traffic arriving from the the device at .56.

                        I'm suggesting that this was working in 22.01 at earlier because the driver was incorrectly stripping the tags and now after the fix it is not. FreeBSD now drops the traffic because that's what it's supposed top do with VLAN0.
                        The last snapshot that worked was built just before that fix was added. On the same day.

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                          NRgia @stephenw10
                          last edited by NRgia

                          @stephenw10

                          19:54:15.069333 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:54:20.067967 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:54:25.067447 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:54:30.256858 dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, LLC, dsap Null (0x00) Individual, ssap Null (0x00) Response, ctrl 0xaf: Unnumbered, xid, Flags [Response], length 46: 01 02
                          19:54:32.205770 dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 358: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown), length 308
                          19:54:36.198452 dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 358: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown), length 308
                          19:54:44.184506 dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 358: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown), length 308
                          19:54:45.079594 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:54:46.068199 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:54:47.067681 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:54:49.068646 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:54:49.743799 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 86: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 PTR (QM)? _googlezone._tcp.local. (40)
                          19:54:49.743972 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 123: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0 SRV (QM)? ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32._googlezone._tcp.local. (77)
                          19:54:49.744264 ac:1f:6b:45:fa:8a (oui Unknown) > 01:00:5e:00:00:fb (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 256: vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 192.168.10.1.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/0 PTR ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32._googlezone._tcp.local., (Cache flush) A 172.18.0.14, (Cache flush) SRV ee41442d-2c14-cc09-fde8-2be16f84be32.local.:10001 1100 0, (Cache flush) TXT "id=3CABD325728E72997BA6735F95651E36" "UDS" (210)
                          19:54:52.068645 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:54:55.068665 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:54:59.070888 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:55:00.157354 dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 358: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from dc:f5:05:3d:18:2d (oui Unknown), length 308
                          19:55:03.070243 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:55:06.797226 dc:f5:05:4d:ec:1a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 68: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, LLC, dsap Null (0x00) Individual, ssap Null (0x00) Response, ctrl 0xaf: Unnumbered, xid, Flags [Response], length 46: 01 02
                          19:55:08.072959 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 598: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 28:6d:97:7f:bb:0c (oui Unknown), length 548
                          19:55:08.751278 dc:f5:05:4d:ec:1a (oui Unknown) > Broadcast, ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 358: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv4, 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from dc:f5:05:4d:ec:1a (oui Unknown), length 308
                          19:55:10.253923 cc:f4:11:c5:bc:81 (oui Unknown) > 33:33:00:0c:00:0c (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 108: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv6, fe80::cef4:11ff:fec5:bc81.10101 > ff02::c:c.10101: UDP, length 38
                          19:55:10.253930 cc:f4:11:c5:bc:81 (oui Unknown) > 33:33:00:00:0c:0c (oui Unknown), ethertype 802.1Q (0x8100), length 108: vlan 0, p 0, ethertype 802.1Q, vlan 20, p 0, ethertype IPv6, fe80::cef4:11ff:fec5:bc81.10101 > ff05::c0c.10101: UDP, length 38
                          ^C
                          29 packets captured
                          424 packets received by filter
                          0 packets dropped by kernel
                          
                          
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                            NRgia @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                            I'm suggesting that this was working in 22.01 at earlier because the driver was incorrectly stripping the tags and now after the fix it is not. FreeBSD now drops the traffic because that's what it's supposed top do with VLAN0.
                            The last snapshot that worked was built just before that fix was added. On the same day.

                            At least I'm not crazy. :)

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Ok, no difference.

                              Ok let's try to verify it is the switch doing this. Can you connect one of the access points to ix2 directly?
                              Otherwise lets get a laptop on one of the ports and see what's arriving at the other end.

                              It looks very likely to be the switch. There's probably some combination of QoS settings that will allow it to work. Enabling it on an unused port. Enabling it on the ports we need (pfSense doesn't care about the priority tag).

                              Steve

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                                NRgia @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10
                                Yes I can, and I can validate by having Internet on My phone.
                                For example both WLANS are having the same tags as our VLANS.

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                                  NRgia @stephenw10
                                  last edited by NRgia

                                  @stephenw10 said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                                  Ok, no difference.

                                  Ok let's try to verify it is the switch doing this. Can you connect one of the access points to ix2 directly?
                                  Otherwise lets get a laptop on one of the ports and see what's arriving at the other end.

                                  It looks very likely to be the switch. There's probably some combination of QoS settings that will allow it to work. Enabling it on an unused port. Enabling it on the ports we need (pfSense doesn't care about the priority tag).

                                  Steve

                                  I did like you suggested:
                                  pfSense->Unifi AP->Mobile Device
                                  The only SSID that gets internet is the one without VLANS same with the switch.

                                  So it's not the switch. I excluded all the switches.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Ok, did you get a pcap from it?

                                    You might have to run it without 'vlan' in case traffic is arriving untagged entirely.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Another test you could do would be to add a port on the switch as untagged in VLAN 20 with the pvid set to 20 and connect a host to it. Does it pull a lease from VLAN 20.

                                      Steve

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                                        NRgia @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 said in pfSense 22.05 breaks VLANS, restoring pfSense 22.01 fixes the issue:

                                        Ok, did you get a pcap from it?

                                        You might have to run it without 'vlan' in case traffic is arriving untagged entirely.

                                        No I was connected only on my mobile device, but I can do the following:

                                        1. Connect with a laptop via Wi-fi
                                        2. Or directly to pfsense via cable

                                        How do you prefer?

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          A pcap on ix2 in pfSense as before would show if it's still seeing the off double tagged traffic arrive. If it is that implies the AP is tagging it and the switch is just passing that.

                                          Testing the switch without the AP would also confirm that.

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                                            NRgia @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10 Yes but I want the same port to have both 20 and 30. Can I do that as you instructed? I mean let's take an AP, you will have multiple SSIDs but connected to different VLANs

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