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    pfSense not propagating "system aliases" (lanX net/ lanX address)

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      Tobi @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 - Sure, I can do it with pleasure. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly what you mean by that. Where/how do I find the diag info?

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        Tobi @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in pfSense not propagating "system aliases" (lanX net/ lanX address):

        I looked in the config, a

        I wanted to post a part from the interface section but always get a message that it is detected as spam.

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          Tobi @Tobi
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          I looked at my old box. It was last equipped with 2.5.2. There it works.
          However, the old box I can not put into operation, because it has much fewer ports and the configuration no longer fits. The configuration on the new box I had then taken over from the old.

          (at the opportunity - is there a way to reload the filters via the CLI?)

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Tobi
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            @tobi said in pfSense not propagating "system aliases" (lanX net/ lanX address):

            The configuration on the new box I had then taken over from the old.

            So you loaded the xml from the old into the new?

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              Tobi @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz said in pfSense not propagating "system aliases" (lanX net/ lanX address):

              So you loaded the xml from the old into the new?

              In first part yes. Later I changed many things - because the new one has more interfaces.

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Tobi
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                @tobi hmmm - issue could be related to that method??

                Would be good test to do a clean install, does it work.. Then restore you backup config.. But as you mentioned your not to that stage yet.

                But I am not sure where to go next with this, other then clean install, and then restore of config to see if creates the problem.

                Maybe @stephenw10 has some stuff to check? I am at a loss to what could cause this.. But I am not completely sure on all the things involved on how it parses out the variables in the rules for address and net.

                But clearly its working as far as interfaces, or your work around of your own aliases with the cidr network in them wouldn't be working either

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                  Tobi @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz Thank you.
                  Do you have any idea where/how I can get the diag info that @stephenw10 is asking for?

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Tobi
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                    @tobi not sure what he is asking for.. Sure he will chime in on specifics soon enough.. Just give him some time - it is the weekend ;)

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                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @Tobi
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                      @tobi I think he means
                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/diagnostic-data.html

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @SteveITS
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                        @steveits yup - that would most likely be it for sure..

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                          Tobi @SteveITS
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                          @steveits said in pfSense not propagating "system aliases" (lanX net/ lanX address):

                          I think he means

                          Yes it makes sense. However, I will wait for his answer, because in the whole diag I think there is too much data that does not belong in a public forum.
                          Maybe he mean "only" the Firewall-*.txt files

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Tobi
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                            @tobi you can for sure that file just to @stephenw10

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Yes, exactly that. If you can gather the status output file from that page you can upload it to me here: https://nc.netgate.com/nextcloud/s/bTgFR9wa8MAcGij

                              Steve

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                                Tobi @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 Thank you Steve, I have uploaded the file.
                                I am already excited whether you can find something there.

                                In the FW rules there is 1 with the error - search for "Windows 138". Lan0 Interface

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Hmm, did you manually edit the config before importing it at some point?

                                  The internal interface names are not the expected defaults. Just wondering if something is internally still referencing the default names since wan is the only interface that would match.

                                  Steve

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 said in pfSense not propagating "system aliases" (lanX net/ lanX address):

                                    did you manually edit the config before importing it at some point?

                                    I think he did, because look few posts back he imported that config from a different machine that had less interfaces.

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                                      Tobi @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10 said in pfSense not propagating "system aliases" (lanX net/ lanX address):

                                      Hmm, did you manually edit the config before importing it at some point?

                                      Yes. The old box had only 2 physical interfaces. The new one i mean 8. So I edited some names and changed the relation "LAN0 - igb1" or so. With the old box I had also adapted the names

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Mmm, and that shouldn't matter. However that does seem to be the issue. I just replicated it here in 22.01:

                                        # source address is empty.  label "USER_RULE: Test"
                                        
                                        		<lan1>
                                        			<descr><![CDATA[lan1]]></descr>
                                        			<if>vtnet2</if>
                                        			<enable></enable>
                                        			<spoofmac></spoofmac>
                                        			<ipaddr>192.168.2.10</ipaddr>
                                        			<subnet>24</subnet>
                                        		</lan1>
                                        
                                        		<rule>
                                        			<id></id>
                                        			<tracker>1658609912</tracker>
                                        			<type>pass</type>
                                        			<interface>lan1</interface>
                                        			<ipprotocol>inet</ipprotocol>
                                        			<tag></tag>
                                        			<tagged></tagged>
                                        			<max></max>
                                        			<max-src-nodes></max-src-nodes>
                                        			<max-src-conn></max-src-conn>
                                        			<max-src-states></max-src-states>
                                        			<statetimeout></statetimeout>
                                        			<statetype><![CDATA[keep state]]></statetype>
                                        			<os></os>
                                        			<protocol>tcp</protocol>
                                        			<source>
                                        				<network>lan1</network>
                                        			</source>
                                        			<destination>
                                        				<any></any>
                                        			</destination>
                                        			<descr><![CDATA[Test]]></descr>
                                        		</rule>
                                        

                                        That rule works fine if the interface is using the default (expected) internal name, opt1.

                                        The interesting thing is that the 'lan1' subnet is still pulled in correctly for other things such as auto outbound NAT rules. 🤔

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Mmm, this is interesting. I've never seen anyone hit that before but I would consider editing the internal interface names like invalid. At least currently.
                                          I'll open a bug for it just to note the behaviour. There is no change in 22.05. It may well be marked 'not a bug' though.

                                          https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13376

                                          Steve

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                                            Patch @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10 said in pfSense not propagating "system aliases" (lanX net/ lanX address):

                                            That rule works fine if the interface is using the default (expected) internal name, opt1

                                            I thought internally only standard names like wan, Lan, opt1, opt2 etc were used despite the ability to change the displayed name.

                                            As such likely solution options would be:

                                            1. Edit the configuration to only use standard names

                                            2. Reset to default and enter the configuration manually via the GUI (which will force standard naming.

                                            3. A combination of 1 & 2 such as starting 2. then using that as a reference to do 1.

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