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    • bearhntrB
      bearhntr @chpalmer
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      @chpalmer said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

      @bearhntr I would make the OPT1 Net the source.. on your PF1 firewall rules page.. Probably just me though..

      Tried this -- did no good. Still cannot ping PF2 from PF1 and vice versa using pfSense.

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      • bearhntrB
        bearhntr @chpalmer
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        @chpalmer said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

        Can you also show this page from pf2?

        /system_gateways.php

        Please explain how to do this. The image above in WHITE is from PF2 >> STATUS >> GATEWAYS.

        I went to the SHELL, and I do not see the file you mention.

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          Jarhead @bearhntr
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          @bearhntr Just do this.
          Make the OPT 10.10.1.1/30
          Make the VM WAN 10.10.1.2/30
          Connect the two. Make sure to uncheck block private networks on VM WAN.
          You'll now have internet on the VM.
          You can allow the original LAN through the VM firewall if you want or just configure it from the VM LAN.

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          • bearhntrB
            bearhntr @Jarhead
            last edited by

            @jarhead

            The PF1 (192.168.10.254/24) is an HP T620+ ThinClient with a 2-port NIC installed in the expansion slot. The built in NIC is used for OPT1, and the port 0 on the 2-port card is WAN to my cable modem, port 1 is LAN to my Wireless AP (Netgear ORBI).

            The PF2 (will be 10.9.28.254/24) is the new one on the Proxmox. There are 5 ports on this box (on-board NIC is the console port for Proxmox and is set to 192.168.10.250/24 (this will change once I get 10.9.28.xxx/24 working) and connects to one port on the ORBI. The 4-port card in the PCIe slot is as follows:

            *port 0 = (to be the new WAN - is vmbr1 (Linux Virtual Bridge) to this port {I have another posting to see if this should be virtualized or or IOMMU PCI port into pfSense VM.

            port 1= (is to be the new LAN - is vmbr2 (Linux Virtual Bridge) to this port.*

            That leaves me with 2 ports not in use.

            From the LAN port on the Proxmox - I have a cable plugged into a hub, in turn from there another cable in to the OPT1 port on the PF1 box (which is static 10.9.28.250/24) - have even tried a cable directly from OPT1 to PF2-LAN made no difference. I put the HUB there in case I wanted to plug a laptop in there to test as well. When I get his working - the HP T620+ will be OFF and stored incase I need a replacement some day.

            See if this helps:

            ff44b43e-a44f-461f-a56d-acfab43c03e8-image.png

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            • bearhntrB
              bearhntr @bearhntr
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              I am wondering if I have a bad or crazed network card.

              I am getting tons of these in the Proxmox SHELL - running 'dmesg'

              [ 1248.474520] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: AER: Multiple Corrected error received: 0000:00:1d.0
              [ 1248.524181] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID)
              [ 1248.524207] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:   device [8086:a118] error status/mask=00002001/00002000
              [ 1248.524231] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:    [ 0] RxErr                 
              [ 1248.667371] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: AER: Multiple Corrected error received: 0000:00:1d.0
              [ 1248.691962] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID)
              [ 1248.691989] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:   device [8086:a118] error status/mask=00000001/00002000
              [ 1248.692011] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:    [ 0] RxErr                 
              [ 1252.456633] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: AER: Multiple Corrected error received: 0000:00:1d.0
              [ 1252.456677] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID)
              [ 1252.456703] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:   device [8086:a118] error status/mask=00002001/00002000
              [ 1252.456725] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:    [ 0] RxErr                 
              [ 1260.319756] tg3 0000:01:00.1 enp1s0f1: Link is down
              [ 1260.319878] vmbr2: port 1(enp1s0f1) entered disabled state
              [ 1299.343586] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: AER: Multiple Corrected error received: 0000:00:1d.0
              [ 1299.392764] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID)
              [ 1299.392790] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:   device [8086:a118] error status/mask=00002001/00002000
              [ 1299.392814] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:    [ 0] RxErr                 
              [ 1299.486874] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: AER: Multiple Corrected error received: 0000:00:1d.0
              [ 1299.535945] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID)
              [ 1299.535970] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:   device [8086:a118] error status/mask=00002001/00002000
              [ 1299.535994] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:    [ 0] RxErr                 
              [ 1373.798280] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: AER: Multiple Corrected error received: 0000:00:1d.0
              [ 1373.822409] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID)
              [ 1373.822435] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:   device [8086:a118] error status/mask=00000001/00002000
              [ 1373.822458] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:    [ 0] RxErr                 
              [ 1376.440381] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: AER: Multiple Corrected error received: 0000:00:1d.0
              [ 1376.489879] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID)
              [ 1376.489905] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:   device [8086:a118] error status/mask=00002001/00002000
              [ 1376.489928] pcieport 0000:00:1d.0:    [ 0] RxErr
              
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                bearhntr @Jarhead
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                    bearhntr
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                    @jarhead said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

                    @bearhntr Just do this.
                    Make the OPT 10.10.1.1/30
                    Make the VM WAN 10.10.1.2/30
                    Connect the two. Make sure to uncheck block private networks on VM WAN.
                    You'll now have internet on the VM.
                    You can allow the original LAN through the VM firewall if you want or just configure it from the VM LAN.

                    I did as you suggested -- not only is the Web Interface even slower now -- I also get this when I go to PF1 and ping PF2 (WAN Address)

                    395da66b-8061-4e05-83b6-468ca14182c7-image.png

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                      Jarhead @bearhntr
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                      @bearhntr
                      So, again, they aren't connected. Fix that first.

                      Set a pc to 10.10.1.2/30, connect it to the OPT port, can you ping 10.10.1.1?

                      Then set that pc to 10.10.1.1/30 and connect it to the VM WAN. Can you ping it 10.10.1.2?

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                      • bearhntrB
                        bearhntr
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                        @jarhead

                        I have reset the network on the Win7-VM and rebooted - it is pulling a DHCP Address from the PF2 - but still has no INTERNET.

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                        the RULES for OPT1 (on the PF1)

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                        From PF2 (VM) --- WAN

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                        From PF2 (VM) --- LAN

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                        28de9377-c722-4215-8dc4-c3b90dfe6979-image.png

                        FIREWALL - PF2

                        375b6c8f-2afd-4e23-bbba-3d4d58af0630-image.png

                        793e9a16-fb61-4f43-a8e7-4255e875d11e-image.png

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                          Jarhead @bearhntr
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                          @bearhntr How can it have internet when it's not connected???
                          Read my previous post.

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                            rcoleman-netgate Netgate @Jarhead
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                            @jarhead
                            7a7b056d-3938-4831-9d0c-4918ab063a31-image.png

                            Windows says it doesn't have an connection... but that is because they use pings and DNS lookups to verify the connectivity.

                            Do other devices report similar things? Non-Windows, if you have any (tablets, phones, etc.)

                            Also your WAN needs a gateway:
                            b1e7f1fa-743c-41b8-bee0-c8a3ddbf4a58-image.png

                            Ryan
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                              viragomann @bearhntr
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                              @bearhntr said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

                              Ping 8.8.8.8 from where?

                              From the Windows VM, of course.
                              Failing internet access on the Windows VM is the only one issue you've reported in your first post.

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                              • bearhntrB
                                bearhntr @rcoleman-netgate
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                                @rcoleman-netgate

                                I cannot make any sense out of this at all.

                                I have just RESET the VM pfSense back to factory defaults. I during the setup, - WAN set to Static 10.10.1.2/24. LAN set to static 10.9.28.254/24 and DHCP server enabled.

                                On my working pfSense OPT1 is set to 10.10.1.1/24 and there is a cable from there to the WAN port on the VM host. There is no cable now in the LAN port on the VM host - as all of the LAN testing I am doing is from a VM on the same back using virtual bridge to LAN that pfSense is using. The Windows machine will pull an IP Address and ask me to identify the network - I choose HOME (Windows 7 = Private in Windows 10).

                                I have attempted to set a GATEWAY on the WAN - and I chose 10.10.1.1 (which is the port on the working pfSense for OPT 1). What does this need to be? One would think that if PING is failing between the two - nothing else it gonna work either.

                                I then go to working pfSense Diagnostics and ping 10.10.1.2 - get no response (100% fail). but I can ping and resolve all day long anything on the Internet and on my working LAN network from that box 192.168.10.xxx/24.

                                This should not be this hard - I am no idiot when it comes to networking - but this is making me re-think that.

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                                  rcoleman-netgate Netgate @bearhntr
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                                  @bearhntr said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

                                  I have attempted to set a GATEWAY on the WAN - and I chose 10.10.1.1

                                  Your WAN gateway should be the IP address of the next device upstream. If you don't know what that is set your WAN to DHCP.

                                  Ryan
                                  Repeat, after me: MESH IS THE DEVIL! MESH IS THE DEVIL!
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                                  Switching: Mikrotik, Netgear, Extreme
                                  Wireless: Aruba, Ubiquiti

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                                    Jarhead @rcoleman-netgate
                                    last edited by

                                    @rcoleman-netgate said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

                                    @jarhead
                                    7a7b056d-3938-4831-9d0c-4918ab063a31-image.png

                                    Windows says it doesn't have an connection... but that is because they use pings and DNS lookups to verify the connectivity.

                                    Do other devices report similar things? Non-Windows, if you have any (tablets, phones, etc.)

                                    Also your WAN needs a gateway:
                                    b1e7f1fa-743c-41b8-bee0-c8a3ddbf4a58-image.png

                                    No, the WAN of the VM is not connected. If you read several posts back you'll see he can't ping either pfSense from the other. Probably a virtual switch problem but he doesn't want to answer any questions so it's impossible to help him.

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                                    • bearhntrB
                                      bearhntr @viragomann
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                                      @viragomann

                                      The Windows VM can ping itself and the gateway 10.9.28.254 -- nothing else.

                                      a066b457-b094-424d-a9b4-1e6e41a70795-image.png

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                                        Jarhead @bearhntr
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                                        @bearhntr
                                        Do this.
                                        Set a pc to 10.10.1.2/30, connect it to the OPT port, can you ping 10.10.1.1?

                                        Then set that pc to 10.10.1.1/30 and connect it to the VM WAN. Can you ping it 10.10.1.2?

                                        You'll see you can ping the existing pfSense but you won't ping the VM. FIX THAT.

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                                        • bearhntrB
                                          bearhntr @Jarhead
                                          last edited by

                                          @jarhead said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

                                          @rcoleman-netgate said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

                                          No, the WAN of the VM is not connected. If you read several posts back you'll see he can't ping either pfSense from the other. Probably a virtual switch problem but he doesn't want to answer any questions so it's impossible to help him.

                                          I do not know how you state that I am not answering your questions. I did:

                                          They're not connected.
                                          Are you using a virtual switch?
                                          How are you connecting the two routers?
                                          Is the pc you were connecting to the VM a physical machine? If so, disconnect it and use that cable to connect to OPT on router 1. Does it ping that way?
                                          

                                          I gave you this:

                                          
                                          The PF2 (will be 10.9.28.254/24) is the new one on the Proxmox. There are 5 ports on this box (on-board NIC is the console port for Proxmox and is set to 192.168.10.250/24 (this will change once I get 10.9.28.xxx/24 working) and connects to one port on the ORBI. The 4-port card in the PCIe slot is as follows:
                                          
                                          *port 0 = (to be the new WAN - is vmbr1 (Linux Virtual Bridge) to this port {I have another posting to see if this should be virtualized or or IOMMU PCI port into pfSense VM.
                                          
                                          port 1= (is to be the new LAN - is vmbr2 (Linux Virtual Bridge) to this port.*
                                          
                                          That leaves me with 2 ports not in use.
                                          
                                          From the LAN port on the Proxmox - I have a cable plugged into a hub, in turn from there another cable in to the OPT1 port on the PF1 box (which is static 10.9.28.250/24) - have even tried a cable directly from OPT1 to PF2-LAN made no difference. I put the HUB there in case I wanted to plug a laptop in there to test as well. When I get his working - the HP T620+ will be OFF and stored incase I need a replacement some day.
                                          

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                                          The Proxmox is setup to use VirtIO Paravirualized ports (bridged in Proxmox to the native ports)

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                                            bearhntr @rcoleman-netgate
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                                            @rcoleman-netgate said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

                                            @bearhntr said in Super Confused - LAN Gateway:

                                            I have attempted to set a GATEWAY on the WAN - and I chose 10.10.1.1

                                            Your WAN gateway should be the IP address of the next device upstream. If you don't know what that is set your WAN to DHCP.

                                            So the next device upstream would be the pfSense (calling it PF1) that is my working pfSense box on the HP T620 ThinClient - it there is a cable from its on-board NIC (set as OPT1 in PF1) - and static at 10.10.1.1/24

                                            When I set that - I get this in PF2 (the VM)

                                            4e6097c9-d0a9-4ed6-b191-c38d11c2e0f5-image.png

                                            FIREWALL RULES on (PF1 - OPT1)

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                                            FIREWALL RULES on (PF2 - VM)

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