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      Gblenn @bmeeks
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      @bmeeks I can't remember what version of Suricata I had in 22.05, but since things were was working there, would it be possible to downgrade somehow?

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        bmeeks @Gblenn
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        @gblenn said in 23.01RC - Suricata stops working after Wireguard installed:

        @bmeeks I can't remember what version of Suricata I had in 22.05, but since things were was working there, would it be possible to downgrade somehow?

        No, you can't downgrade Suricata because the PHP code is radically changed to work with the new PHP 8.1 that is part of 23.01 and 2.7.0 CE. Older Suricata PHP code will not work at all in the upcoming pfSense release due the new 8.1 PHP environment.

        I have found the problem with the "hang" during installation when installing certain rules files. It is related to an update in some shared libraries and has to do with HTTP2 support in cURL. I've tested my fix in a virtual machine, and the stalling is fixed. Will be submitting that pull request later this evening for the Netgate team to review and merge.

        As for the other problem with Wireguard, I need help from the Netgate wirequard guru. He said he will investigate, but may not get to it until next week. So that bug may linger for a bit longer.

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @Bob.Dig
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          @bob-dig said in 23.01RC - Suricata stops working after Wireguard installed:

          I think, an Upgrade should never depend on some third party lists hosted somewhere, lists etc should be updated after the whole upgrade procedure.

          As always, the safest way to perform a pfSense upgrade is to uninstall packages, upgrade, then reinstall packages. Settings are retained.

          Not convenient but...

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            Gblenn @bmeeks
            last edited by Gblenn

            @bmeeks Ah yes php was changed, well I just changed to the 22.05 version and let the 23.01 sit and wait for a while.

            BTW, on the Wireguard issue, the passlist itself is complete as far as I can see.
            /usr/local/etc/suricata/suricata_28603_igb1/passlist

            That's how I knew the two WG IP's were next to be processed, looking at the error reported. After that I have 127.0.0.1/32 and then my LAN and VLAN subnets.
            The only thing in that list which makes the WG IP's different, is that they start with 10 and have a /31 mask, where it's /32 and /24 for the others.

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              Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
              last edited by Bob.Dig

              @stephenw10 said in 23.01RC - Suricata stops working after Wireguard installed:

              Not convenient but...

              True.
              But Netgate could enforce a different behavior on the package maintainers (or maybe not). As a prosumer I say it is more of a standard to upgrade just the app and load "definitions" later. But most of the people probably don't have a hostile ISP. And pfSense is special in so may ways.

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                mrsunfire @Bob.Dig
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                I'm having the same issue and suricata service won't start.

                3/2/2023 -- 09:45:45 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_FATAL(171)] - prefix or user NULL
                
                

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                  Gblenn @mrsunfire
                  last edited by

                  @mrsunfire And do you also have the WG tunnel IP's directly after that error?
                  If you go into /usr/local/etc/suricata/suricata_some_directory_name/
                  Check the passlist in that folder, do you see the IP's and can identify your WG IP's?

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                    mrsunfire
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                    @gblenn Yes the WG IP are in that list. If I uncheck the passlist (set to none) the service is starting.

                    Until I set it back to normal passlist I get this:

                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Loading and parsing Pass List from: /usr/local/etc/suricata/suricata_29846_pppoe1/passlist.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 1.0.0.1 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 1.1.1.1 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 8.8.4.4 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 8.8.8.8 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 8.8.8.8/32 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 9.9.9.9 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 10.0.0.0/24 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 10.0.1.0/24 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 10.0.2.0/24 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Info> -- alert-pf -> Added IPv4 address 10.0.40.0/24 from assigned Pass List.
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:24 - <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_FATAL(171)] - prefix or user NULL
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- (RX#01-pppoe1) Packets 0, bytes 0
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- (RX#01-pppoe1) Pcap Total:67 Recv:67 Drop:0 (0.0%).
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- alert-pf output inserted 0 IP address blocks
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- alert-pf output processed 0 alerts
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- alert-pf output inserted 0 IP address blocks
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- alert-pf output processed 0 alerts
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- alert-pf output inserted 0 IP address blocks
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- alert-pf output processed 0 alerts
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- alert-pf output inserted 0 IP address blocks
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- alert-pf output processed 0 alerts
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Info> -- cleaning up signature grouping structure... complete
                    3/2/2023 -- 10:15:25 - <Notice> -- Stats for 'pppoe1':  pkts: 0, drop: 0 (nan%), invalid chksum: 0
                    
                    

                    Right after 10.0.40.0/24 is the WG ip in the passlist file.

                    Netgate 6100 MAX

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                      Gblenn @mrsunfire
                      last edited by Gblenn

                      @mrsunfire said in 23.01RC - Suricata stops working after Wireguard installed:

                      Yes the WG IP are in that list. If I uncheck the passlist (set to none) the service is starting.

                      Ah, good point, why didn't I think of that... But I suppose you really want the passlist, else you get into all sorts of trouble.

                      Now I'm back on 22.05 so I can't test right now. If you start Suricata without passlist, and then go back and select your passlist and click save, does that stop Suricata? Suppose it does since you'd get that error again, when it works it's way through the list...

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                        mrsunfire @Gblenn
                        last edited by

                        @gblenn Exactly that happens. Did try this as workaround.

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                          bmeeks
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                          The most likely cause of the Wireguard Pass List problem is the pfSense system function returning an invalid final address entry. In the Suricata package code, the call to the pfSense function is the very last step of a larger function that is grabbing all of the VPN-related IP addresses. Here is the code:

                          /* WireGuard */
                          if (function_exists('wg_get_tunnel_networks')) {
                          	foreach (wg_get_tunnel_networks() as $wgn) {
                          		$vpns_arr[] = $wgn;
                          	}
                          }
                          

                          The code is calling the pfSense function wg_get_tunnel_networks() and then walking the returned array adding each element to the local VPNs array variable. My suspicion is the last returned element from the pfSense function is the problem.

                          I don't have a Wireguard setup to test with, and I'm not familiar with the new Wireguard functionality in pfSense either. That's why I asked the Netgate Wireguard developer to lend a hand troubleshooting this one. This VPN gathering sub-function in Suricata was added sometime back by a Netgate developer who has since left the company.

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                            Gblenn @bmeeks
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                            @bmeeks Yes I saw that you highlighted that in Redmine.
                            I did however go in to check and that same code block is present in the version I have on 22.05. And there things are are working fine...

                            Not sure you need a full working Wireguard setup to be able to test it.
                            I'm guessing all you need is to create a tunnel and add one peer (where the tunnel IP will be listed).
                            Whether or not the tunnel is actually up shouldn't impact the passlist?

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                              bmeeks @Gblenn
                              last edited by bmeeks

                              @gblenn said in 23.01RC - Suricata stops working after Wireguard installed:

                              I did however go in to check and that same code block is present in the version I have on 22.05. And there things are are working fine...

                              It will almost certainly be related to the new PHP 8.1 that comes with the latest pfSense snapshots. A lot of the old ways of doing things in PHP code (especially with arrays) got force-deprecated with the bump from PHP 7.x to 8.1. PHP 7.x and earlier would sort of hold your hand and fix things gracefully in the background in some cases. PHP 8.1 no longer does that. It enforces some hard and fast rules about arrays and strings in particular.

                              That's why I made my earlier comment about being unable to rollback Suricata but stay current in pfSense DEVEL. The PHP code is incompatible, and PHP is what all of the GUI is written with.

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                                bmeeks @Gblenn
                                last edited by bmeeks

                                @gblenn:
                                Would you be willing to test the fix below? It requires a small edit to the /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc PHP source file. I'm having trouble reproducing the issue in my test system, but it is likely because I do not have Wireguard configured properly yet. But in reviewing the Wireguard package code, I think I see a place where a problem could occur.

                                Below is the new code. The change is on line 4299 of the file (so almost at the very bottom of that file).

                                /* WireGuard */
                                if (function_exists('wg_get_tunnel_networks')) {
                                	foreach (wg_get_tunnel_networks() as $wgn) {
                                		$vpns_arr[] = $wgn['network'] . '/' . $wgn['mask'];
                                	}
                                }
                                

                                If you can perform this test, please report back the results here. Thanks!

                                Edit: or alternatively, you could copy and paste the following PHP code into an empty file and then execute it on the firewall. It will print out the Wireguard tunnel networks.

                                <?php
                                require_once('wireguard/includes/wg.inc');
                                
                                global $g;
                                $vpns_arr = array();
                                
                                /* WireGuard */
                                if (function_exists('wg_get_tunnel_networks')) {
                                	foreach (wg_get_tunnel_networks() as $wgn) {
                                		print_r($wgn, false);
                                		$vpns_arr[] = $wgn;
                                	}
                                	print PHP_EOL . "\$vpns_arr[] contents = " . PHP_EOL;
                                	print_r($vpns_arr, false);
                                } else {
                                	print "Failed to find the wg_get_tunnel_networks() function";
                                }
                                ?>
                                

                                So, for example, paste the code above into /tmp/test.php and then at a shell prompt on the firewall execute the code with this command:

                                php -f /tmp/test.php
                                

                                Posting what the above code outputs will help me understand the problem better. If you do not want to divulge the IP addresses on the public forum, then PM me and I can supply my email address.

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                                  Gblenn @bmeeks
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                                  @bmeeks Ok, not sure this was a conclusive test, as I ran this on a VM where I was using vtnet instead of igb. Had to mess around with interface settings a bit to get it up and running.

                                  So php -f /tmp/test.php gave this:

                                  Array
                                  (
                                  [network] => 10.6.250.0
                                  [mask] => 31
                                  [tun] => tun_wg1
                                  [descr] => One_VPN
                                  )

                                  $vpns_arr[] contents =
                                  Array
                                  (
                                  [0] => Array
                                  (
                                  [network] => 10.6.250.0
                                  [mask] => 31
                                  [tun] => tun_wg1
                                  [descr] => One_VPN
                                  )

                                  )

                                  That only shows one of the tunnels though... Also, after fixing the interface assignments, I also changed the names of the WG interfaces, but that was not reflected in the output.
                                  The output looks exactly the same on 22.05 btw...

                                  Editing suricata.inc to look like this:

                                  /* WireGuard */
                                  if (function_exists('wg_get_tunnel_networks')) {
                                  	foreach (wg_get_tunnel_networks() as $wgn) {
                                  		$vpns_arr[] = $wgn['network'] . '/' . $wgn['mask'];
                                  	}
                                  

                                  Gave the following error (twice, because of two interfaces?):

                                  PHP ERROR: Type: 1, File: /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc, Line: 4310, Message: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot access offset of type string on string in /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc:4310
                                  Stack trace:
                                  #0 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc(599): suricata_get_vpns_list()
                                  #1 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata_generate_yaml.php(46): suricata_build_list(Array, 'default')
                                  #2 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc(3800): include('/usr/local/pkg/...')
                                  #3 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc(933): suricata_generate_yaml(Array)
                                  #4 /tmp/suricata_vtnet128603_startcmd.php(8): sync_suricata_package_config()
                                  #5 {main}

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                                    bmeeks @Gblenn
                                    last edited by

                                    @gblenn said in 23.01RC - Suricata stops working after Wireguard installed:

                                    @bmeeks Ok, not sure this was a conclusive test, as I ran this on a VM where I was using vtnet instead of igb. Had to mess around with interface settings a bit to get it up and running.

                                    So php -f /tmp/test.php gave this:

                                    Array
                                    (
                                    [network] => 10.6.250.0
                                    [mask] => 31
                                    [tun] => tun_wg1
                                    [descr] => One_VPN
                                    )

                                    $vpns_arr[] contents =
                                    Array
                                    (
                                    [0] => Array
                                    (
                                    [network] => 10.6.250.0
                                    [mask] => 31
                                    [tun] => tun_wg1
                                    [descr] => One_VPN
                                    )

                                    )

                                    That only shows one of the tunnels though... Also, after fixing the interface assignments, I also changed the names of the WG interfaces, but that was not reflected in the output.
                                    The output looks exactly the same on 22.05 btw...

                                    Editing suricata.inc to look like this:

                                    /* WireGuard */
                                    if (function_exists('wg_get_tunnel_networks')) {
                                    foreach (wg_get_tunnel_networks() as $wgn) {
                                    $vpns_arr[] = $wgn['network'] . '/' . $wgn['mask'];
                                    }

                                    Gave the following error (twice, because of two interfaces?):

                                    PHP ERROR: Type: 1, File: /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc, Line: 4310, Message: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot access offset of type string on string in /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc:4310
                                    Stack trace:
                                    #0 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc(599): suricata_get_vpns_list()
                                    #1 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata_generate_yaml.php(46): suricata_build_list(Array, 'default')
                                    #2 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc(3800): include('/usr/local/pkg/...')
                                    #3 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc(933): suricata_generate_yaml(Array)
                                    #4 /tmp/suricata_vtnet128603_startcmd.php(8): sync_suricata_package_config()
                                    #5 {main}

                                    Thanks for testing. I think the actual error is somewhere else, but this code exposes it. The string offset error error you get when you modify the suricata.inc file like I suggested is a PHP 8.1 thing. That error will not usually happen in earlier PHP versions, so that's why the same setup works for in 22.05. Earlier pfSense versions use PHP 7.4.

                                    I will keep digging into this.

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                                    • bmeeksB
                                      bmeeks
                                      last edited by

                                      After some more digging around, I think this problem may reside in the custom blocking plugin compiled into Suricata for use on pfSense. The error message "<Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_FATAL(171)] - prefix or user NULL" is coming from the Radix Tree code in the Suricata binary. There was a change in the Radix Tree itself, and some changes in the custom blocking plugin between Suricata 6.0.4 which is the current binary in pfSense Plus 22.05 and Suricata 6.0.8 which is the current binary in pfSense Plus 23.01. The problem may be related to the subnet mask.

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                                        Patch @Bob.Dig
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                                        @bob-dig said in 23.01RC - Suricata stops working after Wireguard installed:

                                        enforce a different behavior ... to upgrade just the app and load "definitions" later.

                                        I suspect that is basically how updates are done already.

                                        The difference you are suggesting is for the update to clearly separate application update from configuration update. Which should allow relatively graceful termination of the latter if if fails, and a warning "User configuration update did not complete, manual re-cofiguration maybe required".

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                                          Gblenn @bmeeks
                                          last edited by Gblenn

                                          @bmeeks said in 23.01RC - Suricata stops working after Wireguard installed:

                                          After some more digging around, I think this problem may reside in the custom blocking plugin compiled into Suricata for use on pfSense. The error message "<Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_FATAL(171)] - prefix or user NULL" is coming from the Radix Tree code in the Suricata binary. There was a change in the Radix Tree itself, and some changes in the custom blocking plugin between Suricata 6.0.4 which is the current binary in pfSense Plus 22.05 and Suricata 6.0.8 which is the current binary in pfSense Plus 23.01. The problem may be related to the subnet mask.

                                          I decided to do some more testing and discovered some wierd issues with the passlist. First of all, I get a discrepancy between what Suricata reports to be doing, like adding an IP to the passlist, and what it then shows when "Loading and parsing passlist."

                                          Going to Interfaces > myVPN (tun_wg0) and changing the IP to e.g. 192.n.n.n or 172.n.n.n the log shows the following:
                                          -> adding firewall interface tun_wg0 IPv4 address 172.6.210.0 to automatic interface IP Pass List.
                                          -> adding firewall interface tun_wg1 IPv4 address 192.168.250.0 to automatic interface IP Pass List.
                                          output device (regular) initialized: block.log
                                          -> Loading and parsing Pass List from: /usr/local/etc/suricata/suricata_28603_vtnet1/passlist.
                                          -> Added IPv4 address 8.8.8.8/32 from assigned Pass List.
                                          This is where it stopped earlier
                                          -> Added IPv4 address 10.6.210.0/31 from assigned Pass List.
                                          -> Added IPv4 address 10.6.250.0/31 from assigned Pass List.
                                          -> Added IPv4 address 127.0.0.1/32 from assigned Pass List.

                                          Suricata now works it's way through and actually starts. However it does throw the same PHP error as before.

                                          The actual list found in /usr/local/etc/suricata/suricata_28603_vtnet1 never changes, no matter what changes I make in Interfaces or inside Wireguard.

                                          Manually removing it and restarting Suricata results in a crash, it does not seem to be created or changed? Rebooting makes no difference...

                                          Manually editing the list and setting the same IP's as the interface has, AND using mask /31 in the passlist, will result in Suricata not starting with the same fault reported as before during parsing (this is basically the original setting from a working environment):
                                          <Error> -- [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_FATAL(171)] - prefix or user NULL

                                          Using mask /32 in the passlist allows it to continue through, regardless of the interface having the mask /31.

                                          Making a change in the Interface and clicking Save Changes gives the following in suricata.log
                                          -> Received notification of IP address change on firewall interface tun_wg1.
                                          -> deleted address 10.6.250.0 from automatic firewall interface IP Pass List.
                                          -> Received notification of IP address change on firewall interface tun_wg1.
                                          -> added address 10.6.250.0 to automatic firewall interface IP Pass List.

                                          And then the error shows up:
                                          PHP ERROR: Type: 1, File: /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc, Line: 4310, Message: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot access offset of type string on string in /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc:4310
                                          Stack trace:
                                          #0 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc(599): suricata_get_vpns_list()
                                          #1 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata_generate_yaml.php(46): suricata_build_list(Array, 'default')
                                          #2 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc(3800): include('/usr/local/pkg/...')
                                          #3 /usr/local/pkg/suricata/suricata.inc(933): suricata_generate_yaml(Array)
                                          #4 /etc/inc/pkg-utils.inc(715) : eval()'d code(1): sync_suricata_package_config()
                                          #5 /etc/inc/pkg-utils.inc(715): eval()
                                          #6 /etc/rc.start_packages(66): sync_package('suricata')
                                          #7 {main}
                                          thrown @ 2023-02-04 14:09:51

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                                            bmeeks @Gblenn
                                            last edited by bmeeks

                                            @gblenn:

                                            First off, thank you for the detailed troubleshooting steps. You have confirmed what I suspected and was about to test myself today. I'll give the details on what I suspect is wrong farther down below.

                                            You can remove that edit I suggested to the suricata.inc file. That turned out to be a red herring. While that area of code needs a little work, it is not the cause of Suricata failing to start when your Wireguard tunnels are present.

                                            The problem is the choice of a /31 subnet mask. I know that is now legal per a revision to the RFCs, but not all software is fully compatible yet. I think the Radix Tree subroutine in Suricata has an issue with the /31 mask. I will be looking into that to see if I can come up with a fix.

                                            The Suricata binary does a lot of work with IP addresses in rules, so it needs a fast method for storing lots of IP addresses and subnets and then searching back through them to locate a particular entry. So, the developers included a Radix Tree API. The Radix Tree lets you insert IP addresses or subnet blocks into the tree, and then later search for them when trying to match up an IP or subnet against a previously stored value. In the case of the Pass List function in my custom blocking module, the Pass List IP entries are stored in the Radix Tree. Then, during operation when an alert fires, and the custom plugin needs to know whether to block that IP or not, it looks for it (or a subnet containing that IP) in the Radix Tree. If found, that means the IP is covered by a Pass List entry. If not found, then it is blocked.

                                            There are two Pass Lists present on an interface. One is automatic and hidden. That hidden one contains all of the firewall's interface IP addresses (expressed with a /32 or /128 mask). The custom blocking plugin creates a subscription to receive notifications from the FreeBSD kernel routing table when it changes. That's how it maintains the hidden pass list of firewall interface IPs. The hidden pass list was created to cope with interfaces which have dynamic addresses (such as DHCP on the WAN, for example). Prior to the automatic list being in place, if DHCP changed the WAN IP it was possible for Suricata to block it. The other Pass List is the one you see and can manipulate in the GUI.

                                            As a workaround and additional test, can you try using a /30 mask on your tunnel networks?

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