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    Cannot access Netgate 6100 over the WAN IP via my usual management NAT rule

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    • morgensternM
      morgenstern @viragomann
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      @viragomann It's the LAN address of the same unit

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      • morgensternM
        morgenstern @SteveITS
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        @steveits There won't be any other services running from behind that unit for a while. The reson I wanted to set it up this way was that I wanted to access it remotely rather than having to be plugged directly into it.

        It's connected to a brand new business leased line from an ISP I have not used before. A UK company operating on the OpenReach network. Do you reckon they may actually be doing some firewalling on their end?

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          viragomann @morgenstern
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          @morgenstern
          So what is the sense of forwarding it? That doesn't it even more secure.
          Simply allow access to the WAN from the certain source IPs.

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          • morgensternM
            morgenstern @viragomann
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            @viragomann I originally copied that approach from a contractor that had set it up that way for us a few years back. I never thought to try and simplify it when it worked... :)

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              SteveITS Rebel Alliance @morgenstern
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              @morgenstern If it's a consumer grade account I could definitely see them blocking server connections. If it's CGNAT (100.64.0.0/10 subnet) like Starlink uses for IPv4 then it isn't going to work for any inbound connection...try IPv6 if they provide that.

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              • morgensternM
                morgenstern
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                Deleted the NAT rule and just added this WAN rule instead but no joy

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                • morgensternM
                  morgenstern @SteveITS
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                  @steveits said in Cannot access Netgate 6100 over the WAN IP via my usual management NAT rule:

                  @morgenstern If it's a consumer grade account I could definitely see them blocking server connections. If it's CGNAT (100.64.0.0/10 subnet) like Starlink uses for IPv4 then it isn't going to work for any inbound connection...try IPv6 if they provide that.

                  I guess I may have to speak to them. How would I establish whether it's this CGNAT? Is it a common thing nowadays?

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                  • morgensternM
                    morgenstern
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                    It's a /29 network by the way

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                      viragomann @morgenstern
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                      @morgenstern
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network#Private_IPv4_addresses

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                      • morgensternM
                        morgenstern @viragomann
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                        @viragomann said in Cannot access Netgate 6100 over the WAN IP via my usual management NAT rule:

                        @morgenstern
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network#Private_IPv4_addresses

                        Ah yeah, I see what you mean:

                        In April 2012, IANA allocated the block 100.64.0.0/10 (100.64.0.0 to 100.127.255.255, netmask 255.192.0.0) for use in carrier-grade NAT scenarios.

                        The public IP I got isn't in that range.

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                          viragomann @morgenstern
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                          @morgenstern

                          In April 2012, IANA allocated the block 100.64.0.0/10 (100.64.0.0 to 100.127.255.255, netmask 255.192.0.0) for use in carrier-grade NAT scenarios.

                          The public IP I got isn't in that range.

                          And also not a RFC 1918?

                          So check if the packets even arrive on your WAN. You can use Diagnostic > Packet Capture to investigate.

                          Do you have any other inbound connections?

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                          • morgensternM
                            morgenstern @viragomann
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                            @viragomann said in Cannot access Netgate 6100 over the WAN IP via my usual management NAT rule:

                            RFC 1918

                            Nope. It's 188.x.x.x/29

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                            • morgensternM
                              morgenstern
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                              Okay, I got it!

                              So my simplified rule was too complex! ๐Ÿ™„

                              The source has to be any port from the trusted IP list to HTTPS port on the destination wan IP!

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                                SteveITS Rebel Alliance @morgenstern
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                                @morgenstern said in Cannot access Netgate 6100 over the WAN IP via my usual management NAT rule:

                                any

                                Ah yes the source port is normally random. Easy to read over in a screenshot.

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