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      Cannondale @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

      Or a show tech-support would spit out everything.

      show tech-support output attached as file.

      Cannondale show tech-support 20230521.txt

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
        last edited by johnpoz

        @cannondale ok this would explain why not working..

        Port : gi22
        Port Mode: 
        Gvrp Status: disabled
        Ingress Filtering: true
        Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
        Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
         
        Port is member in: 
         
        Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
        ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
         20                VL20                Untagged          S         
        
        Port : gi24
        Port Mode: 
        Gvrp Status: disabled
        Ingress Filtering: true
        Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
        Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
         
        Port is member in: 
         
        Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
        ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
         10                VL10                Untagged          S         
        

        Notice the
        Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1

        This is the PVID.. So your untagged traffic coming into the switch from your device would be on vlan 1, so no it would never go out port 1 tagged for the vlan 10 or 20 on these ports.

        And your ports would be egress untagged on 10 and 20 of these ports.. But the answer from pfsense on its lan for dhcp would would be on vlan 1...

        You should of been seeing the dhcp from these devices - just on the wrong dhcp server.

        Port : gi1
        Port Mode: 
        Gvrp Status: disabled
        Ingress Filtering: true
        Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
        Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
         
        Port is member in: 
         
        Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
        ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
         1                  1                  Untagged          V         
         10                VL10                 Tagged           S         
         20                VL20                 Tagged           S         
        

        edit: notice one of my ports that I have a device on vlan 6, which is one that is tagged to pfsense, see the native vlan or pvid for that port is set to 6

        sg300-28#show interfaces switchport gi18
        Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
        Port : gi18
        Port Mode: Access 
        Gvrp Status: disabled
        Ingress Filtering: true
        Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
        Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 6
         
        Port is member in: 
         
        Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
        ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
         6               W_Guest               Untagged          S         
        

        Also curious why all your ports mode is just blank

        Port Mode:

        It should be showing trunk or access.. see mine above for gi18, and then on the one that goes to my pfsense

        sg300-28#show interfaces switchport gi5
        Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
        Port : gi5
        Port Mode: Trunk
        Gvrp Status: disabled
        Ingress Filtering: true
        Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
        Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 2
         
        Port is member in: 
         
        Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
        ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
         2                 Wlan                Untagged          S         
         4                W_PSK                 Tagged           S         
         6               W_Guest                Tagged           S         
        

        So your port 1 looks ok, other then the missing port mode that is odd. But your ports 22 and 24 should have the native vlan (pvid) set to vlan 10 and 20 etc..

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          Cannondale @johnpoz
          last edited by Cannondale

          @johnpoz said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

          Notice the
          Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
          This is the PVID

          I do not see where PVID is exposed in the GUI for Access Mode on the membership screen in order to modify.

          Screenshot from 2023-05-21 16-18-18.png

          @johnpoz said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

          Also curious why all your ports mode is just blank

          As marvosa previously mentions, it may be a Cisco firmware thing. The GUI shows "Access" for all ports except port 1, which is "Trunk".

          Can the PVID be changed in the CLI?

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
            last edited by johnpoz

            @cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

            Can the PVID be changed in the CLI?

            I don't think so not for a access port.. On my sg300 if I change the access port vlan it auto changes the pvid..

            example here is port 28

            sg300-28#sho interfaces switchport gi28
            Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
            Port : gi28
            Port Mode: Access 
            Gvrp Status: disabled
            Ingress Filtering: true
            Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
            Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 10
             
            Port is member in: 
             
            Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
            ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
             10              disabled              Untagged          S         
            

            If I then put in say vlan 6.. via the with the little arrows to remove it from 10 and add 6 while picking untagged..

            guivlan.jpg

            sg300-28#sho interfaces switchport gi28
            Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
            Port : gi28
            Port Mode: Access 
            Gvrp Status: disabled
            Ingress Filtering: true
            Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
            Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 6
             
            Port is member in: 
             
            Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
            ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
             6               W_Guest               Untagged          S         
            

            You could try putting it in vlan 10 or 20 from the cli and see if that works..

            example - here is me moving it back to 10

            sg300-28#sho interfaces switchport gi28
            Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
            Port : gi28
            Port Mode: Access 
            Gvrp Status: disabled
            Ingress Filtering: true
            Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
            Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 6
             
            Port is member in: 
             
            Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
            ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
             6               W_Guest               Untagged          S         
            
             
            Forbidden VLANS: 
            Vlan               Name               
            ---- -------------------------------- 
            
             
            Classification rules: 
            sg300-28#conf t
            sg300-28(config)#int gi28
            sg300-28(config-if)#switchport access vlan 10
            sg300-28(config-if)#exit
            sg300-28(config)#exit
            sg300-28#sho interfaces switchport gi28
            Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
            Port : gi28
            Port Mode: Access 
            Gvrp Status: disabled
            Ingress Filtering: true
            Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
            Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 10
             
            Port is member in: 
             
            Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
            ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
             10              disabled              Untagged          S         
            
             
            Forbidden VLANS: 
            Vlan               Name               
            ---- -------------------------------- 
            
             
            Classification rules: 
            sg300-28#
            

            I don't really like that your gui doesn't show mode, nor the P that it has in its legends that should mark what the pvid is, etc. Maybe you want to roll back in the firmware.. Maybe there is something wrong with this firmware.. But it for sure is not going to work if untagged traffic coming from your device is going on to vlan 1 vs 10..

            maybe you could just put 22 or 24 into trunk mode or general mode.. And be able to set the pvid, and just set vlan 10 or 20 to be untagged..

            You might want to ask on the cisco forums.. I doubt you have support from cisco ;)

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              Cannondale @johnpoz
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              johnpoz, this is the output of sho interfaces switchport gi24 (VLAN10 port):

              Screenshot from 2023-05-21 16-51-04.png

              You are the expert here but it doesn't seem reasonable to not expose the PVID in the GUI for Access Mode ports if it is required for VLAN configuration.

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                last edited by johnpoz

                @cannondale it doesn't need to be expose really since access port can only ever be in 1 vlan, and the pvid should be switched to the vlan you put the access port in.

                But seems yours is not doing that..

                Try toggle the vlan via cli and see if it switches the native (pvid) if it doesn't then its borked for sure. Not just gui, and I would try rolling back to previous firmware.

                A work around would be to put it in general mode where the pvid should be able to be changed.. or set to trunk with just using untagged for egress of vlan and native you can set..

                Mine exposes in that it shows what the pvid is in the gui..

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                  mvikman
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                  I would say that those differences what the switches are showing are caused by the different way that the firmwares show stuff.
                  My CBS250 switch shows config more or less the same way as Cannondale's and my network is working fine VLANs and all.

                  Also these so called business/small business switches don't have the full IOS and different generations seem to behave differently from each other...

                  pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                  Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                  Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                  HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
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                    Cannondale @johnpoz
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                    Thanks for all your help johnpoz! You get the gold star for hanging in there on this issue!
                    I think I'll try to roll back the firmware as a first step.
                    When I acquired the switch, it had fw v2.4.0.94, which I upgrade to the latest (v2.5.9.16).
                    It's possible that it was not upgraded for a reason!

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mvikman
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                      @mvikman said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                      business switches don't have the full IOS

                      Very true - but its close enough that if you are cisco guy in the enterprise, its damn close ;)

                      The basics all pretty much the same.. When I first got mine I didn't even use the gui, but figured what the hell lt has it - lets give it a look see.

                      I do recall having impossible time trying to get the gui to load a ssl for https, had to do that from the cli.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                        @cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                        I think I'll try to roll back the firmware as a first step.

                        Did you try just changing the vlan from the cli, maybe its just a bug in the gui, and if you change the vlan at the client it correctly sets the pvid.

                        Also prob look in the cisco forums - I will do a quick little gui now that we know its not changing the native vlan for access ports.

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                          marvosa @Cannondale
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                          @cannondale

                          interface GigabitEthernet1
                           switchport mode trunk
                           switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,10,20
                          

                          I'd remove vlan 1 from the allowed line on your trunk (Gi1).

                          Too many odd things that aren't adding up. Rolling back the firmware may work, but if it doesn't, I'd still recommend rebuilding the config from scratch from the cli. You'll likely save yourself countless hours of more troubleshooting.

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                            Cannondale @marvosa
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                            Thanks for the suggestions guys! You both have given me some additional options to try.

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @marvosa
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              @marvosa said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                              I'd remove vlan 1 from the allowed line on your trunk (Gi1).

                              He is using that, as the native vlan.. Its just untagged so he wouldn't remove it.

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                                Cannondale @johnpoz
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                                Just an update. Successfully rolled the firmware back to v2.4.0.94.
                                This scrambled many of the previously configured settings in the switch so had to reconfirm everything to get back to where I was before the roll back. Unfortunately, the roll back did not change the PVID issue.

                                Changed port 24 (VLAN10) and port 22 (VLAN20) from Access to Trunk. Note that those are to only two options!
                                Ran show tech-support again (output of port 22 and 24 below). Both still show
                                Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1

                                Classification rules: 
                                Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                Port : gi22
                                Port Mode: 
                                Gvrp Status: disabled
                                Ingress Filtering: true
                                Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                                Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
                                 
                                Port is member in: 
                                 
                                Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                                ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                                 20                VL20                Untagged          S         
                                
                                 
                                Forbidden VLANS: 
                                Vlan               Name               
                                ---- -------------------------------- 
                                 
                                Classification rules: 
                                Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                Port : gi24
                                Port Mode: 
                                Gvrp Status: disabled
                                Ingress Filtering: true
                                Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                                Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
                                 
                                Port is member in: 
                                 
                                Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                                ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                                 10                VL10                Untagged          S         
                                
                                 
                                Forbidden VLANS: 
                                Vlan               Name               
                                ---- -------------------------------- 
                                

                                The output above is still not showing port mode so here is the output of "sho interfaces switchport gi24 and g122:

                                Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho interfaces switchport gi24
                                Gathering information...
                                
                                Name: gi24
                                Switchport: enable
                                Administrative Mode: trunk
                                Operational Mode: up
                                Access Mode VLAN: 10
                                Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 10
                                Trunking VLANs: 10
                                                        2-9,11-19,21-4094 (Inactive)
                                General PVID: 1
                                General VLANs: none
                                General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                                General Forbidden VLANs: none
                                General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                                General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                                General GVRP status: disabled
                                Customer Mode VLAN: none
                                
                                
                                
                                Classification rules:
                                                                                      
                                
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho interfaces switchport gi22
                                Gathering information...
                                
                                Name: gi22
                                Switchport: enable
                                Administrative Mode: trunk
                                Operational Mode: down
                                Access Mode VLAN: 20
                                Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 20
                                Trunking VLANs: 20
                                                        2-9,11-19,21-4094 (Inactive)
                                General PVID: 1
                                General VLANs: none
                                General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                                General Forbidden VLANs: none
                                General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                                General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                                General GVRP status: disabled
                                Customer Mode VLAN: none
                                
                                
                                

                                Next step is to rebuilding the config from scratch from the cli as marvosa suggested.
                                Thanks again!

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                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz I don't have access to a Cisco SG-series switch.

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Derelict
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                                    @derelict NP - thanks for chiming in.. It was a shot, you and Steve normally have all kinds of stuff ;)

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                                      Cannondale @johnpoz
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                                      Thanks for trying to shake the trees johnpoz!
                                      Started vlan config from scratch. Cleared all vlan config using GUI and only worked in the cli.
                                      Clearing the vlan config using the GUI appears to leave remnant config information when doing the config via cli. Is there a way in cli to clear all vlan config for a particular vlan?

                                      This is what I have so far:

                                      Roth-SG250-50P-1(config)#do sho vlan
                                      Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                      
                                      Vlan       Name     gged Ports             UnTagged Ports      Created by    
                                      ---- ----------------- ------------------ ------------------ ---------------- 
                                       1           1                             gi2-23,gi25-50,      DV        
                                                                                      Po1-4                               
                                       10       AP-vl10                          gi24                 S         
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      Roth-SG250-50P-1#do sho run int gi1             
                                      interface GigabitEthernet1
                                       switchport mode trunk
                                       switchport access vlan 10
                                       switchport trunk allowed vlan 10
                                      !
                                      
                                      Roth-SG250-50P-1#do sho run int gi24
                                      interface GigabitEthernet24
                                       switchport access vlan 10
                                      !
                                      
                                      
                                      Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho interfaces switchport gi1
                                      Name: gi1
                                      Switchport: enable
                                      Administrative Mode: trunk
                                      Operational Mode: up
                                      Access Mode VLAN: 10
                                      Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (Inactive)
                                      Trunking VLANs: 10
                                      General PVID: 1
                                      General VLANs: none
                                      General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                                      General Forbidden VLANs: none
                                      General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                                      General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                                      General GVRP status: disabled
                                      Customer Mode VLAN: none
                                      
                                      
                                      Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho interfaces switchport gi24
                                      Name: gi24
                                      Switchport: enable
                                      Administrative Mode: access
                                      Operational Mode: up
                                      Access Mode VLAN: 10
                                      Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                                      Trunking VLANs: 1,10
                                                              2-9,11-4094 (Inactive)
                                      General PVID: 1
                                      General VLANs: none
                                      General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                                      General Forbidden VLANs: none
                                      General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                                      General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                                      General GVRP status: disabled
                                      Customer Mode VLAN: none
                                      

                                      The one thing that looks odd to me is:
                                      do sho run int gi1 shows: Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (Inactive)

                                      Does this output look correct?

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                                        @cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                        Does this output look correct?

                                        no not really..

                                        What does your sho tech show for port gi24?

                                        Name: gi24
                                        Switchport: enable
                                        Administrative Mode: access
                                        Operational Mode: up
                                        Access Mode VLAN: 10
                                        Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                                        Trunking VLANs: 1,10
                                                                2-9,11-4094 (Inactive)
                                        General PVID: 1
                                        

                                        For an access port - the native vlan should be the same as the vlan.

                                        It is never going to work if inbound traffic into the port that is not tagged does not get put into vlan 10.

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                                          Cannondale @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                          What does your sho tech show for port gi24?

                                          Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                          Port : gi24
                                          Port Mode: 
                                          Gvrp Status: disabled
                                          Ingress Filtering: true
                                          Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                                          Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
                                           
                                          Port is member in: 
                                           
                                          Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                                          ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                                           10              AP-vl10               Untagged          S
                                          

                                          Not good!

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
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                                            @cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                            Not good!

                                            Nope - this switch seems worse then the shit tplink when they wouldn't let you remove vlan 1..

                                            Well time to start moving up the firmware releases from the one your on now - maybe they had one that wasn't broken..

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