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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Austin 0
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      @Austin-0 said in WiFi suddenly gone (ath0 beacon stuck):

      but I really don't need it.

      I somewhat agree with this statement. Most users don't need gig, nor do they need their wifi to do gig either.

      But wifi N is very slow, especially if only 1 stream. With what is possible with just very cheap AP or wifi router used as AP. It is very old tech.. Why would anyone want to limit themselves to such slow speeds, when AC is not even current, but it can easy do 400?

      And while 1 wifi client doing something and only being able to do say 75mbps tops, etc. More than likely is fine for reading your email, etc. But keep in mind this is shared with all the wifi clients.. Having say 400mbps to share when you have multiple clients is going to be way better then having 75 to share.

      Keep in mind as well that not all things might be going to the internet. Sharing the wifi to stream movies off your media server, or music, etc.. Will suck up your wifi, especially if its only got 75 to work with. Now you might have problems with other clients trying to watch something via the internet, etc.

      I don't have gig, I have 500/50 - the 500 is fine, even with all the linux iso I download <wink, wink> but the 50 while is enough, I wish that was 500/500 since I do share my media server with friends and family. And 50 can be a bottleneck.

      But yeah most people would be fine with 200 real world on wifi (standard just 2 stream AC at only a 40vht).. But with all the streaming that is done these days both locally and internet why would you not want higher wifi than what N can do?

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      • Austin 0A
        Austin 0 @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz Yeah WiFi 6 has some security improvements too. So even if you don't need the speed it is still something to consider.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Austin 0
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          @Austin-0 valid point as well.. There almost always other things to take into account other than just bandwidth for sure.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            @provels said in WiFi suddenly gone (ath0 beacon stuck):

            I just ordered a Compex WLE600VX

            I did that...about 3 years ago!

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            • JonathanLeeJ
              JonathanLee @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz have you ever tested this out (Wi-Fi)

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JonathanLee
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                @JonathanLee I would never use my pfsense as my wifi - I have actual APs correctly placed around my place..

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                • JonathanLeeJ
                  JonathanLee @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz I want to because I think the airport extreme AP I have could becone infected with a container based virus as it's from 2009. The AP operates under it's own software that can communicate over the firewall as the AP is running in bridge mode. Again, I suspect it could be an issue. Moreover, anything on the LAN side over WiFi that attempts to communicate with other LAN side devices don't have to follow the firewall rules as they use only the AP to communicate with each other without the firewall for some reason. This is when the AP is even in bridge mode. The AP allows intra device communication as the AP is also a time machine (NAS). When in bridge mode that software still functions. On the other side if PfSense is handling WiFi all the access control lists for device to device communication are compartmentalized and strictly controlled at the firewall and not on some 3rd party AP.

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                  • provelsP
                    provels @JonathanLee
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                    @JonathanLee I may be mistaken, but I believe your Airport Extreme contains the same AR5BXB112 (AR9380 chip) card that you mentioned earlier as one you'd want to get. Might just take it apart, I'm sure Steve Jobs wouldn't care anymore...

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                    • JonathanLeeJ
                      JonathanLee @provels
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                      @provels I purchased one, If I could just use the open source code that is sitting on GitHub and fully utilize it on PfSense it would work perfectly.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JonathanLee
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                        @JonathanLee said in WiFi suddenly gone (ath0 beacon stuck):

                        and fully utilize it on PfSense it would work perfectly.

                        That would be a matter of opinion ;)

                        anything on the LAN side over WiFi that attempts to communicate with other LAN side devices don't have to follow the firewall rules

                        My wifi networks are not on my lan - the different ssids I run are all on their own vlans and rules set appropriate for what I want the different networks to be able to talk to, etc.

                        One of ssids uses eap-tls to auth, and this comes from the management IP of the AP - to the freerad instance listening on that vlans interface on pfsense. That is completely different network than other wifi networks. Only my trusted devices that have certs used to auth to the eap-tls setup are on that vlan. And that vlans is not my lan network either.. But the rules on that vlan are lighter and printer seats on that vlan so phones and tablets (trusted devices) can print, etc..

                        If I was more paranoid I would run that management completely different than any of my wifi networks - but to get on that network you have to auth via cert.. I am fairly confident its pretty freaking secure.. But sure that management vlan should prob be completely isolated from any wifi at all.

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                        • provelsP
                          provels @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 I know! I found some your discussion about that from back then in various places. But I guess I'll be waiting a while unless someone packages athp for 14. I tried the 12.2 version that @kiokoman posted back here (https://forum.netgate.com/post/942133) and failed. I'd be happy to get even N running. Never compiled anything.

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                          • JonathanLeeJ
                            JonathanLee @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz we did vlans in class a whole bunch, at home I am only running LAN for wireless on everything. It's just my AP is so old they don't even update it anymore.

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                            • JonathanLeeJ
                              JonathanLee @provels
                              last edited by JonathanLee

                              @provels Apple iMac Mac A1311 A1312 Wireless WiFi Card 2011 AR5BXB112 607-7211-A 661-5946
                              arrived in the mail however the system does not detect it as usable.

                              It does however work with the Compex WLE200NX Wireless A/B/G/N Network Mini PCIe Adapter (A4343) just fine.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                An AR5BXB112? Does it work in anything else? Under another OS?

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                                • JonathanLeeJ
                                  JonathanLee @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 I will have to check something else to see if its the card.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by stephenw10

                                    Hmm, are you running that in the 2100? I don't believe it will work there. The wle200nx is the only wifi card I have seen work on that platform.

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                                    • JonathanLeeJ
                                      JonathanLee @stephenw10
                                      last edited by JonathanLee

                                      @stephenw10 Yes I have the 2100 with arm architecture. Is that the problem ?? So other appliances support the other set of cards? Should the 2100 also support the other cards listed?

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Yes that card should work in anything x86. arm (aarch64 here) platforms require far for specific code so if you want the PCIe bus to work that has to be setup. There is a conflict in that setup in 2100 which means some (most) PCIe cards are not seen on the bus. Since we never sold it with a wifi card, and the only card we have sold in recent memory was the wle200nx there is not huge incentive to correct it. It's non-trivial!

                                        Steve

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                                        • JonathanLeeJ
                                          JonathanLee @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 Thanks for the info. I will have to put the old card back, I got that other card hoping to use three antenna or test the diversity settings to see if they would turn on for the 2100. Dang :(

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                                          • JonathanLeeJ
                                            JonathanLee @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10 Is there anyway to enable that card or no?

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