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    • JonathanLeeJ
      JonathanLee @bmeeks
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      @bmeeks thanks for the info. I personally see this package as a reason to roll back as it is a work horse for me. I'll have to roll back again.

      Make sure to upvote

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        bmeeks Thank you so much for all of your hard work. I am able to finally provide an update to signal 11 snort issue. Pfsense 2.7.1 with snort 4.1.6_14 appears to now be working correctly. I have pushed all updates and package updates and so far for over 40mins the service has been running. Thanks again I hope you have a happy thanksgiving too.

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        • JonathanLeeJ
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          🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃

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          • bmeeksB
            bmeeks
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            It's 7:06 PM US Eastern Time, and I just checked with my SG-5100 running Plus 23.09 and the updated Snort and Suricata packages are still not available. I had an earlier email communication from Netgate advising they were continuing work to resolve the 23.09 package builder problems. Their hope was to get things resolved today. Apparently that did not have happened (unless the packages build overnight).
            ~~
            Due the long Thanksgiving Holiday weekend here in the US, work on the problem will likely not resume until Monday, November 27th. pfSense Plus 23.09 users will have to be patient a little longer.

            Update: the new packages were built overnight. Updates are available now on pfSense 23.09 for both Snort and Suricata. This update should correct the Signal 11 crash when using Legacy Mode Blocking with Kill States enabled.

            It will NOT make any difference in Suricata if you are experiencing the HyperScan "Fatal: hyperscan returned error -1" problem.

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              ronv42
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              I just checked this morning from my homelab's self-built protectli running 23.09 and there is a update. Happy Thanksgiving for those in the USA.

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              • NogBadTheBadN
                NogBadTheBad @bmeeks
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                It's still dumping core in Legacy mode:-

                Nov 23 19:49:17 kernel pid 59990 (suricata), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
                Nov 23 19:49:15 suricata 58667 [100237] <Notice> -- This is Suricata version 7.0.2 RELEASE running in SYSTEM mode
                Nov 23 19:49:15 php 48436 [Suricata] Suricata START for LAN(igb0)...
                Nov 23 19:49:14 php 48436 [Suricata] Building new sid-msg.map file for LAN...

                Andy

                1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                • bmeeksB
                  bmeeks @NogBadTheBad
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                  @NogBadTheBad said in Important Snort and Suricata Package Announcement -- probable bug in Legacy Blocking Module:

                  It's still dumping core in Legacy mode:-

                  Nov 23 19:49:17 kernel pid 59990 (suricata), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
                  Nov 23 19:49:15 suricata 58667 [100237] <Notice> -- This is Suricata version 7.0.2 RELEASE running in SYSTEM mode
                  Nov 23 19:49:15 php 48436 [Suricata] Suricata START for LAN(igb0)...
                  Nov 23 19:49:14 php 48436 [Suricata] Building new sid-msg.map file for LAN...

                  I need some more troubleshooting info here to help me identify the issue.

                  1. If you turn off Legacy Mode does the problem go away?

                  2. If you leave Legacy Blockling Mode enabled but uncheck the Kill States option does the problem go away?

                  3. Are there any other errors in the suricata.log file?

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                  • NogBadTheBadN
                    NogBadTheBad @bmeeks
                    last edited by NogBadTheBad

                    @bmeeks said in Important Snort and Suricata Package Announcement -- probable bug in Legacy Blocking Module:

                    @NogBadTheBad said in Important Snort and Suricata Package Announcement -- probable bug in Legacy Blocking Module:

                    It's still dumping core in Legacy mode:-

                    Nov 23 19:49:17 kernel pid 59990 (suricata), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
                    Nov 23 19:49:15 suricata 58667 [100237] <Notice> -- This is Suricata version 7.0.2 RELEASE running in SYSTEM mode
                    Nov 23 19:49:15 php 48436 [Suricata] Suricata START for LAN(igb0)...
                    Nov 23 19:49:14 php 48436 [Suricata] Building new sid-msg.map file for LAN...

                    I need some more troubleshooting info here to help me identify the issue.

                    1. If you turn off Legacy Mode does the problem go away?

                    Yes

                    1. If you leave Legacy Blockling Mode enabled but uncheck the Kill States option does the problem go away?

                    Block Offenders On
                    Kill States Off

                    Core dumps

                    1. Are there any other errors in the suricata.log file?

                    Just deleted the interface and recreated it with all the defaults and no core dump.

                    Restart suricata from the GUI and a core dump.

                    From both interface logs:-

                    02312 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:19:14 Info: logopenfile: http-log output device (regular) initialized: http.log
[102312 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:19:14 Info: detect: 1 rule files processed. 370 rules successfully loaded, 0 rules failed
[102312 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:19:14 Info: threshold-config: Threshold config parsed: 0 rule(s) found
[102312 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:19:14 Info: detect: 370 signatures processed. 0 are IP-only rules, 0 are inspecting packet payload, 191 inspect application layer, 108 are decoder event only
[102312 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:19:14 Info: runmodes: Using 1 live device(s).
[135891 - RX#01-pppoe0] 2023-11-24 19:19:14 Info: pcap: pppoe0: running in 'auto' checksum mode. Detection of interface state will require 1000 packets
[135891 - RX#01-pppoe0] 2023-11-24 19:19:14 Info: pcap: pppoe0: snaplen set to 1518
[102312 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:19:14 Notice: threads: Threads created -> RX: 1 W: 4 FM: 1 FR: 1   Engine started.
[135891 - RX#01-pppoe0] 2023-11-24 19:20:15 Info: checksum: No packets with invalid checksum, assuming checksum offloading is NOT used
[135893 - W#02] 2023-11-24 19:20:39 Error: spm-hs: Hyperscan returned fatal error -1.


                    [212407 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:17:21 Info: threshold-config: Threshold config parsed: 43 rule(s) found
[212407 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:17:21 Info: detect: 370 signatures processed. 0 are IP-only rules, 0 are inspecting packet payload, 191 inspect application layer, 108 are decoder event only
[212407 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:17:21 Info: runmodes: Using 1 live device(s).
[135845 - RX#01-igb0] 2023-11-24 19:17:21 Info: pcap: igb0: running in 'auto' checksum mode. Detection of interface state will require 1000 packets
[135845 - RX#01-igb0] 2023-11-24 19:17:21 Info: pcap: igb0: snaplen set to 1518
[212407 - Suricata-Main] 2023-11-24 19:17:22 Notice: threads: Threads created -> RX: 1 W: 4 FM: 1 FR: 1   Engine started.
[135845 - RX#01-igb0] 2023-11-24 19:18:05 Info: checksum: No packets with invalid checksum, assuming checksum offloading is NOT used
[135848 - W#03] 2023-11-24 19:20:38 Error: spm-hs: Hyperscan returned fatal error -1.
[1099191 - W#04] 2023-11-24 19:20:38 Error: spm-hs: Hyperscan returned fatal error -1.

                    Looks like its Hyperscan causing the issue that you mentioned further up the thread.

                    Andy

                    1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                    • bmeeksB
                      bmeeks @NogBadTheBad
                      last edited by bmeeks

                      @NogBadTheBad said in Important Snort and Suricata Package Announcement -- probable bug in Legacy Blocking Module:

                      Looks like its Hyperscan causing the issue.

                      Agreed, but the additional details are what I needed to verify.

                      It's important for Suricata users to understand there are two likely completely unrelated bugs impacting them. One was the Legacy Blocking Mode bug that also affected Snort. That bug is fixed as of version 7.0.2_1 of the Suricata package. It was nailed down to a problem in the libpfctl library distributed with pfSense.

                      The potential HyperScan bug (that is still just a theoretical cause, but circumstantial evidence strongly points there) is a totally different thing unrelated to Legacy Blocking Mode. But users have intermixed the two bug reports in this thread about the common Legacy Blocking Mode problem that Snort and Suricata shared.

                      So, that's why I asked the clarifying questions about Legacy Blocking Mode and turning off the Kill States option. I needed to verify which bug you were likely still seeing. I was pretty sure it was not the Legacy Blocking Mode bug, but just needed confirmation from you.

                      If other Suricata users read this thread and find this reply, please determine which bug is currently impacting you: (1) the Legacy Blocking Mode bug, which so far as we know at this point is fixed; or (2) the HyperScan related bug which is not positively identified as reproducible and also not verified as fixed. You can immediately rule out anything related to Legacy Blocking Mode by simply turning off blocking and seeing if Suricata still experiences the crash. If it still crashes with Legacy Blocking Mode disabled, then the bug reported in this thread is not what you are experiencing.

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                      • bmeeksB
                        bmeeks
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                        Locking this thread for now as I am highly confident the original bug discussed here was fixed as of version 4.1.6_14 of the Snort package and version 7.0.2_1 of the Suricata package.

                        If you are having Signal 11 or Signal 10 crashes with Suricata, please report those in this thread instead: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/184101/suricata-process-dying-due-to-hyperscan-problem.

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