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    • bmeeksB
      bmeeks @kiokoman
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      @kiokoman said in Suricata process dying due to hyperscan problem:

      @bmeeks
      yes, it's running on an interface i have without blocking mode

      Please share the output of this command run from a shell prompt:

      pkg info | grep suricata
      

      Let's make sure you have the latest binary. It should show suricata-7.0.2_5.

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      • kiokomanK
        kiokoman LAYER 8 @bmeeks
        last edited by kiokoman

        @bmeeks

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        Shell Output - pkg info | grep suricata
        pfSense-pkg-suricata-7.0.2_2 pfSense package suricata
        suricata-7.0.2_5 High Performance Network IDS, IPS and Security Monitoring engine

        this is pfsense 2.7.2
        the strange part is that i have another pfsense 23.09.1-RELEASE that it's running on vmware with the same packages and more vlans but it have no trouble ....
        the only difference is that 23.09.1 is running with 4 cpu and 2.7.2 with 8 cpu
        tomorrow i can try to lower the cpu and see if there is any difference

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        • NeganN
          Negan
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          Still broken here also..... :-(

          [177766 - RX#01-ix0] 2023-12-12 06:48:02 Info: checksum: More than 1/10th of packets have an invalid checksum, assuming checksum offloading is used (193/1000)
          [177768 - W#02] 2023-12-12 07:17:29 Error: spm-hs: Hyperscan returned fatal error -1.

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            paulp
            last edited by paulp

            After upgrade, the problem with the hyperscan error still occurs for me as well.

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            • bmeeksB
              bmeeks
              last edited by bmeeks

              Well, sorry but I'm fresh out of ideas at this point. I have no clue what it could be. That fix was my last best hope.

              Since I cannot reproduce the problem, it makes it practically impossible to troubleshoot and debug.

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                Maltz @bmeeks
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                @bmeeks I think I mentioned it somewhere else, too, but the problem only occurs for me (Netgate 2100) when I have DNSBL (pfBlocker) running also. Have you tried that combo to reproduce? (Or at least occurs much faster - I've only run it for a few days in a row with DNSBL disabled, but when both are running, Suricata dies within 5-15 minutes.)

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                • NeganN
                  Negan
                  last edited by

                  I should have also mentioned I'm running a Netgate 8200,..

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                    paulp
                    last edited by

                    I also have pfBlockerBG active. I will uninstall it to see if the problem still occurs.

                    @bmeeks: On one of my pfsense servers the problem manifests itself relatively quickly - a few hours.
                    I would be happy if I could somehow help to identify the problem.

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                      sgnoc
                      last edited by

                      Not sure why, but I haven't had a single segfault kill my suricata interfaces running auto on my netgate 7100 for the last few hours, after the upgrade. It would have normally long since had the hyperscan error and core dumped the process. I'm keeping an eye on it, but so far so good.

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                      • BismarckB
                        Bismarck
                        last edited by

                        Same here with pattern match auto or blocking enabled, suricata still won't start.

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                        pkg info | grep suricata
                        pfSense-pkg-suricata-7.0.2_2   pfSense package suricata
                        suricata-7.0.2_5               High Performance Network IDS, IPS and Security Monitoring engine
                        
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                        • NeganN
                          Negan
                          last edited by

                          Output from my 8200

                          pkg info | grep suricata

                          pfSense-pkg-suricata-7.0.2_2 pfSense package suricata
                          suricata-7.0.2_5 High Performance Network IDS, IPS and Security Monitoring engine

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                            paulp
                            last edited by

                            I uninstalled pfBlockerNG, but the error persists on the wan interface.
                            (It is a hyper-v machine with Pfsense 23.09.1-RELEASE with suricata-7.0.2_5)

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                            • bmeeksB
                              bmeeks @Bismarck
                              last edited by bmeeks

                              @Bismarck said in Suricata process dying due to hyperscan problem:

                              Same here with pattern match auto or blocking enabled, suricata still won't start.

                              What error do you get on startup if you leave the Pattern Matcher set to AC-KS but enable only blocking? In other words, enable blocking but do not change the Pattern Matcher setting.

                              Show the output of the suricata.log file for the impacted interface (located under the LOGS VIEW tab) and also post anything relevant during the same time from the pfSense system log (under STATUS > SYSTEM LOGS).

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                              • BismarckB
                                Bismarck @bmeeks
                                last edited by

                                @bmeeks no error, "pattern match auto" or "blocking enabled" kills suricata. AC-KS or "disabling blocking" is fine.

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                                • bmeeksB
                                  bmeeks @Bismarck
                                  last edited by

                                  @Bismarck said in Suricata process dying due to hyperscan problem:

                                  @bmeeks no error, "pattern match auto" or "blocking enabled" kills suricata. AC-KS or "disabling blocking" is fine.

                                  Help me understand this better...

                                  I've gotten a lot of seemingly conflicting information from the posters in this long thread. My confusion is leading to frustration 😧.

                                  1. So if you leave Pattern Matching at AC-KS and enable blocking, Suricata starts and runs with no issue. Is that correct?

                                  2. The only way to make it crash is to set Pattern Matcher to Auto with blocking enabled? Is that correct?

                                  3. And just to close the loop- if you set Pattern Matcher to Auto but disable blocking Suricata starts without error. Is that correct?

                                  For the crash configurations, what is the output of the suricata.log file? Is it always the "Hyperscan returned fatal error -1" message?

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                                  • BismarckB
                                    Bismarck @bmeeks
                                    last edited by Bismarck

                                    @bmeeks

                                    1. yes
                                    2. yes
                                    3. yes

                                    suricata.log stops at this line

                                    [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Error: detect: error parsing signature "alert tcp any any -> any $HTTP_PORTS (msg:"SERVER-WEBAPP Microsoft SharePoint OAuth authentication bypass attempt"; flow:to_server,established; content:"access_token="; fast_pattern; nocase; http_client_body; base64_decode:bytes 100,relative; base64_data; content:"|22|alg|22|"; nocase; content:"|22|none|22|"; within:50; nocase; content:"/_api/"; nocase; http_uri; pcre:"/\x2f_api\x2f(web\x2f|lists\x2f|Microsoft|SP\x2e|_vti_bin|_layouts|apps\x2f|search\x2f)/Ui"; metadata:policy balanced-ips drop, policy max-detect-ips drop, policy security-ips drop, service http; reference:cve,2023-29357; reference:url,portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-us/security-guidance/advisory/CVE-2023-29357; classtype:attempted-admin; sid:62467; rev:1;)" from file /usr/local/etc/suricata/suricata_10547_igc2/rules/suricata.rules at line 33984
                                    [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Error: detect-parse: "http_uri" keyword seen with a sticky buffer still set.  Reset sticky buffer with pkt_data before using the modifier.
                                    [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Error: detect: error parsing signature "alert tcp any any -> any $HTTP_PORTS (msg:"SERVER-WEBAPP Microsoft SharePoint OAuth authentication bypass attempt"; flow:to_server,established; content:"access_token="; nocase; http_client_body; base64_decode:bytes 100,relative; base64_data; content:"|22|alg|22|"; nocase; content:"|22|none|22|"; within:50; nocase; content:"/_layouts/15/"; fast_pattern:only; http_uri; metadata:policy balanced-ips drop, policy max-detect-ips drop, policy security-ips drop, service http; reference:cve,2023-29357; reference:url,portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-us/security-guidance/advisory/CVE-2023-29357; classtype:attempted-admin; sid:62465; rev:1;)" from file /usr/local/etc/suricata/suricata_10547_igc2/rules/suricata.rules at line 33986
                                    [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Info: detect: 2 rule files processed. 34422 rules successfully loaded, 61 rules failed
                                    [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Warning: threshold-config: can't suppress sid 2210063, gid 1: unknown rule
                                    [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Info: threshold-config: Threshold config parsed: 1 rule(s) found
                                    

                                    system log gives:

                                    kernel pid 72109 (suricata), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
                                    

                                    /edit for suricata.log

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                                    • bmeeksB
                                      bmeeks
                                      last edited by

                                      The best workaround for you guys is to select AC-CS (the normal default when Hyperscan is not present on a system) or one of the other AC-* pattern matcher settings. I have no idea what is wrong with Hyperscan at this point, and I have no reasonable hope of being able to fix it when I can't even reproduce it. It's like throwing darts at a target while blindfolded.

                                      Hyperscan is eventually likely going to be removed from Suricata anyway. Intel seems to have begun a process of taking the library closed-source and making it proprietary. There is an open-source equivalent called VectorScan, but so far it runs only on non-Intel hardware because that's why it was created in the first place. Hyperscan was for Intel-only CPUs, so that left a number of other platforms (ARM, PowerPC, etc.) out. Thus some folks created the VectorScan project for those other CPUs. But that project was not originally created with Intel CPUs as its target, so it may take a bit for things to settle out. Here is a link about this: https://github.com/intel/hyperscan/issues/421. Follow the additional links in that GitHub discussion to learn more.

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                                      • bmeeksB
                                        bmeeks @Bismarck
                                        last edited by

                                        @Bismarck said in Suricata process dying due to hyperscan problem:

                                        @bmeeks

                                        1. yes
                                        2. yes
                                        3. yes

                                        suricata.log stops at this line

                                        [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Error: detect: error parsing signature "alert tcp any any -> any $HTTP_PORTS (msg:"SERVER-WEBAPP Microsoft SharePoint OAuth authentication bypass attempt"; flow:to_server,established; content:"access_token="; fast_pattern; nocase; http_client_body; base64_decode:bytes 100,relative; base64_data; content:"|22|alg|22|"; nocase; content:"|22|none|22|"; within:50; nocase; content:"/_api/"; nocase; http_uri; pcre:"/\x2f_api\x2f(web\x2f|lists\x2f|Microsoft|SP\x2e|_vti_bin|_layouts|apps\x2f|search\x2f)/Ui"; metadata:policy balanced-ips drop, policy max-detect-ips drop, policy security-ips drop, service http; reference:cve,2023-29357; reference:url,portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-us/security-guidance/advisory/CVE-2023-29357; classtype:attempted-admin; sid:62467; rev:1;)" from file /usr/local/etc/suricata/suricata_10547_igc2/rules/suricata.rules at line 33984
                                        [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Error: detect-parse: "http_uri" keyword seen with a sticky buffer still set.  Reset sticky buffer with pkt_data before using the modifier.
                                        [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Error: detect: error parsing signature "alert tcp any any -> any $HTTP_PORTS (msg:"SERVER-WEBAPP Microsoft SharePoint OAuth authentication bypass attempt"; flow:to_server,established; content:"access_token="; nocase; http_client_body; base64_decode:bytes 100,relative; base64_data; content:"|22|alg|22|"; nocase; content:"|22|none|22|"; within:50; nocase; content:"/_layouts/15/"; fast_pattern:only; http_uri; metadata:policy balanced-ips drop, policy max-detect-ips drop, policy security-ips drop, service http; reference:cve,2023-29357; reference:url,portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-us/security-guidance/advisory/CVE-2023-29357; classtype:attempted-admin; sid:62465; rev:1;)" from file /usr/local/etc/suricata/suricata_10547_igc2/rules/suricata.rules at line 33986
                                        [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Info: detect: 2 rule files processed. 34422 rules successfully loaded, 61 rules failed
                                        [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Warning: threshold-config: can't suppress sid 2210063, gid 1: unknown rule
                                        [118101 - Suricata-Main] 2023-12-12 15:10:30 Info: threshold-config: Threshold config parsed: 1 rule(s) found
                                        

                                        system log gives:

                                        kernel pid 72109 (suricata), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
                                        

                                        /edit for suricata.log

                                        Thanks! Can you post the entire suricata.log file for an interface when it crashes? You can scrub or x-out any IP addresses if you need to. I want to examine the whole log to see what steps are completed.

                                        And to clarify, have you ever seen the "Hyperscan returned fatal error -1" log message?

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                                        • BismarckB
                                          Bismarck @bmeeks
                                          last edited by

                                          @bmeeks said in Suricata process dying due to hyperscan problem:

                                          there you go

                                          suricata.log crash (Auto)

                                          https://pastebin.com/GAQn5CCy
                                          

                                          suricata.log nocrash (AC-KC)

                                          https://pastebin.com/kRcWVNDJ
                                          

                                          And to clarify, have you ever seen the "Hyperscan returned fatal error -1" log message?

                                          For me no, did a log search and only came up with signal 11 core dumped messages.

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                                          • tylereversT
                                            tylerevers @bmeeks
                                            last edited by tylerevers

                                            @bmeeks said in Suricata process dying due to hyperscan problem:

                                            My pull request containing the anticipated fix for this Hyperscan error has been merged. An updated Suricata package has built and should appear as an available update for 2.7.2 CE and 23.09.1 Plus users.

                                            Look for an update to version 7.0.2_2 for the Suricata package. When installed, the new package should pull in version 7.0.2_5 of the Suricata binary.

                                            Fingers crossed this fixes the Hyperscan issue. But as I mentioned previously, since I could never reproduce the error in my small test environment, I can't say with 100% certainty the bug I found and fixed is the actual Hyperscan culprit.

                                            Nearly 20 hours since updating to 7.0.2_2 on 23.09.1 Plus with custom bare metal setup and no Hyperscan crash yet. Pattern Match set to AUTO and Blocking Mode ENABLED. Using all VLANs that traverse a LAGG in my case just as a reminder.

                                            Thanks, Bill!

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