Static Routing between Lan Vlan OpenVPN
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 I'm struggling to figure out how to fix this routing issue. The part that I'm having trouble with is the LINK_SER gateway. LINK_SER is another router, it's owned and managed by a software company that providers certain services to us. I can not change any aspect of it. It sits on the LAN using IP 10.0.0.13. It's in fact a gateway to remote servers. The only one I'm interested in is 10.20.1.100. It works for (default) lan clients, lan clients can ping the server 10.20.1.100. Lan clients traffic for 10.20.1.100 follows the route to 10.0.0.13 gateway. Lan clients can connect and ping as expected. I have identical rules in vlan30, basically allow all. Vlan30 clients can ping lan clients. But Vlan30 clients can not ping 10.20.1.100, and traffic does not reach the LINK_SER gateway. Using ping on pfsense with Source address as Vlan30, 100% packet loss, same ping with source address lan, is successful. All other Vlans can not ping 10.20.1.100. Here's a brief overview of the network: Internet 
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 pfsense 23.09.1 (WAN)
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 LAN 10.0.0.0/24 VLAN20 VLAN30 OpenVPN
 10.0.20.0 10.0.30.0 10.0.90.0
 /system/routing/gateways
 WAN_GW Default IPV4 WAN (PUBLIC IP)
 LINK_SER LAN (10.0.0.13) (Link Gateway to servers) (I can not make changes to this config)/system/routing/static routes 
 10.20.1.0/24 Gateway LINK_SER Interface LAN (Link Gateway to servers)/firewall/rules/lan 
 IPv4 Source 10.20.1.0/24 Port * Destination 10.0.0.13 (allow from Gateway Servers)I am clearly missing something. So the short is: I need to ping server 10.20.1.101 which is reachable via LINK_SER gateway on LAN @ 10.0.0.13 from VLAN30. pfsense does not seem to be following the static routing for vlans. 
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 That is on a different subnet are you sure it is cider notation /24? 10.20.1.100/24?? this is the 10.20.1.x as 10.20.1 is network and x is hosts and 10.0.0.13/24??? this is 10.0.0.x so 10.0.0 is network and x is host Both networks are different private address schemes they need to know how to talk to each other as they both have different broadcast addresses. You have one broadcast address at 10.0.0.255 and the other is 10.20.1.255. - 
10.0.0.1 - 10.0.0.254 useable hostrange 
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10.20.1.1 - 10.20.1.254 useable hostrange 
 That can't work as it only gives you a subnet of 255.255.255.0 for use with the last octet only so you need a static route set up. System---->Routing---->Static Routes Set this to anything that wants that server point it to that gateway to get it. Set each subnet to have a static route for what you need. I think the others are already on that subnet so they know how to get to it in the routing table. I would look at each network that is trying to access that server and if it is needed and or no pings that is the subnet that needs a static route also. Also does the VLAN have rules for approving traffic to that host? 
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 @darwood said in Static Routing between Lan Vlan OpenVPN: Lan clients traffic for 10.20.1.100 follows the route to 10.0.0.13 gateway. If this is the gateway what is the cider notation being used here? 
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 I wasn't as clear as I could have been. 10.0.0.13 is the IP assigned to the other router by pfsense. The other router has it's own fiber connection. This router is acting as a gateway to 10.20.1.101 The ip range on the note is 10.20.1.0/24, but as far as I can tell only three ip's have ever been in use. 10.20.1.101~103 The Lan clients can ping 10.20.1.101~3 correctly. Lan is defined as 10.0.0.0/24 GW is 10.0.0.254 Lan and Vlan30 have the same rules in the same order. For testing: 
 I set a rule on Vlan30, top of the list : Action Pass, Interface Vlan30, IPV4, Protocol Any, source Any, Destination Address 10.20.1.102, and under advanced, GW is LINK_SER which is defined as 10.0.0.13 under /system/routing/gateways.Using pfsense ping, and host 10.20.1.102, source set to Lan, Ping is successful 
 Using pfsense ping and host 10.20.1.102, source set to Vlan30, Ping fails.Using pfsense ping and host set to another lan client 10.0.0.14 (random machine), source set to Vlan30, Ping is successful. BUT 
 Using pfsense ping and host set to 10.0.0.13. source set to Lan, Ping is successful
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 Using pfsense ping and host set to 10.0.0.13 source set to Vlan30, Ping fails.Vlan30 won't follow the static route setup in /system/routing/static routes. So it doesn't know when I want to ping 10.20.1.102 to use LINK_SER gateway(which is router at 10.0.0.13) It also seems that Vlan30 can't ping that device, even though it can ping other lan clients on the same subnet. 
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 @darwood what about floating rule as it’s essentially on the same interface?? 
 Better yet just creat a NAT rule for that traffic with destinations out that other interface…
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 I have tried adding a NAT rule under outbound. Tried with VLAN30 and LAN as the NAT Address. But this did not work. Ping to other machines on LAN from VLAN30 works, but Ping to 10.20.1.102 fails from VLAN30. Also ping to 10.0.0.13 also fails from VLAN30, but from LAN works. I should be able to ping 10.0.0.13 from Vlan30 as I can ping other clients on LAN, but this is not the case. What would allow a ping to clients on LAN from VLAN30, but would block a ping from VLAN30 to that client, but if the ping comes from LAN it works. firewall/NAT/Portforward 
 Interface VLAN30, Source VLAN30 subnets, Source Port *, Destination 10.20.1.0/24, Destination Port *, Nat Address VLAN30 address, Nat Port *
 Interface VLAN30, Source VLAN30 subnets, Source Port *, Destination Lan subnets, Destination Port *, Nat Address VLAN30 address, Nat Port *(not at the same time) firewall/NAT/Portforward 
 Interface VLAN30, Source VLAN30 subnets, Source Port *, Destination 10.20.1.0/24, Destination Port *, Nat Address LAN address, Nat Port *
 Interface VLAN30, Source VLAN30 subnets, Source Port *, Destination Lan subnets, Destination Port *, Nat Address LAN address, Nat Port *firewall/Rules/Floating 
 Interface VLAN30, Protocol IPv4* Source VLAN30 subnets, Port *, Destination 10.20.1.0/24, Port 0, Gateway LINK_SER, Queue noneAnd tested using pfsense ping from Lan/VLAN30. Same results ping successful from LAN, fails from VLAN30(it fails from anything other than LAN). Ping from Vlan30 to other LAN machines are successful. 
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 @darwood said in Static Routing between Lan Vlan OpenVPN: I have identical rules in vlan30, basically allow all. Vlan30 clients can ping lan clients. But Vlan30 clients can not ping 10.20.1.100, and traffic does not reach the LINK_SER gateway. Sure? Have you sniff the traffic to prove this? I have tried adding a NAT rule under outbound. Tried with VLAN30 and LAN as the NAT Address. Can you post a screenshot? firewall/NAT/Portforward 
 Interface VLAN30, Source VLAN30 subnets, Source Port *, Destination 10.20.1.0/24, Destination Port *, Nat Address VLAN30 address, Nat Port *
 Interface VLAN30, Source VLAN30 subnets, Source Port *, Destination Lan subnets, Destination Port *, Nat Address VLAN30 address, Nat Port *(not at the same time) firewall/NAT/Portforward 
 Interface VLAN30, Source VLAN30 subnets, Source Port *, Destination 10.20.1.0/24, Destination Port *, Nat Address LAN address, Nat Port *
 Interface VLAN30, Source VLAN30 subnets, Source Port *, Destination Lan subnets, Destination Port *, Nat Address LAN address, Nat Port *This rules make no sense at all. 
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 I am remote to this pfsense router atm. But I can ssh in to the pfsense. From Vlan30 to 10.0.0.13 
 ping -S 10.0.30.254 10.0.0.13
 PING 10.0.0.13 (10.0.0.13) from 10.0.30.254: 56 data bytes
 ^C
 --- 10.0.0.13 ping statistics ---
 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet lossFrom Vlan30 to 10.0.0.15 - same vlan to a different LAN IP 
 ping -S 10.0.30.254 10.0.0.15
 PING 10.0.0.15 (10.0.0.15) from 10.0.30.254: 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.531 ms
 64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.911 ms
 64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.361 msFrom LAN to 10.0.0.13 
 ping -S 10.0.0.254 10.0.0.13
 PING 10.0.0.13 (10.0.0.13) from 10.0.0.254: 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 10.0.0.13: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.749 ms
 64 bytes from 10.0.0.13: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.461 ms
 64 bytes from 10.0.0.13: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.510 ms
 ^C
 --- 10.0.0.13 ping statistics ---
 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.461/0.573/0.749/0.126 msRules currently loaded. 
 pfctl -s rules
 scrub from any to <vpn_networks> fragment no reassemble
 scrub from <vpn_networks> to any fragment no reassemble
 scrub on mvneta0.4090 inet all fragment reassemble
 scrub on mvneta0.4090 inet6 all fragment reassemble
 scrub on mvneta0.4091 inet all fragment reassemble
 scrub on mvneta0.4091 inet6 all fragment reassemble
 scrub on mvneta0.20 inet all fragment reassemble
 scrub on mvneta0.20 inet6 all fragment reassemble
 scrub on mvneta0.30 inet all fragment reassemble
 scrub on mvneta0.30 inet6 all fragment reassemble
 anchor "openvpn/" all
 anchor "ipsec/" all
 pass in quick on lo0 inet6 all flags S/SA keep state label "pass IPv6 loopback" ridentifier 1000000001
 pass out quick on lo0 inet6 all flags S/SA keep state label "pass IPv6 loopback" ridentifier 1000000002
 block drop in log quick inet6 all label "Block all IPv6" ridentifier 1000000003
 block drop out log quick inet6 all label "Block all IPv6" ridentifier 1000000004
 block drop in log quick inet from 169.254.0.0/16 to any label "Block IPv4 link-local" ridentifier 1000000101
 block drop in log quick inet from any to 169.254.0.0/16 label "Block IPv4 link-local" ridentifier 1000000102
 block drop in log inet all label "Default deny rule IPv4" ridentifier 1000000103
 block drop out log inet all label "Default deny rule IPv4" ridentifier 1000000104
 block drop in log inet6 all label "Default deny rule IPv6" ridentifier 1000000105
 block drop out log inet6 all label "Default deny rule IPv6" ridentifier 1000000106
 block drop log quick inet proto tcp from any port = 0 to any label "Block traffic from port 0" ridentifier 1000000107
 block drop log quick inet proto udp from any port = 0 to any label "Block traffic from port 0" ridentifier 1000000107
 block drop log quick inet proto tcp from any to any port = 0 label "Block traffic to port 0" ridentifier 1000000108
 block drop log quick inet proto udp from any to any port = 0 label "Block traffic to port 0" ridentifier 1000000108
 block drop log quick from <snort2c> to any label "Block snort2c hosts" ridentifier 1000000109
 block drop log quick from any to <snort2c> label "Block snort2c hosts" ridentifier 1000000110
 block drop in log quick proto tcp from <sshguard> to (self) port = 2424 label "sshguard" ridentifier 1000000301
 block drop in log quick proto tcp from <sshguard> to (self) port = http label "GUI Lockout" ridentifier 1000000351
 block drop in log quick from <virusprot> to any label "virusprot overload table" ridentifier 1000000400
 block drop in log quick on mvneta0.4090 from <bogons> to any label "block bogon IPv4 networks from WAN" ridentifier 11001
 block drop in log on ! mvneta0.4090 inet from <REDACTEDWANIP>/29 to any ridentifier 1000001470
 block drop in log inet from <REDACTEDWANIP> to any ridentifier 1000001470
 block drop in log on mvneta0.4090 inet6 from <REDACTEDWANIPIPV6> to any ridentifier 1000001470
 block drop in log quick on mvneta0.4090 inet from 10.0.0.0/8 to any label "Block private networks from WAN block 10/8" ridentifier 12001
 block drop in log quick on mvneta0.4090 inet from 127.0.0.0/8 to any label "Block private networks from WAN block 127/8" ridentifier 12002
 block drop in log quick on mvneta0.4090 inet from 172.16.0.0/12 to any label "Block private networks from WAN block 172.16/12" ridentifier 12003
 block drop in log quick on mvneta0.4090 inet from 192.168.0.0/16 to any label "Block private networks from WAN block 192.168/16" ridentifier 12004
 block drop in log quick on mvneta0.4090 inet6 from fc00::/7 to any label "Block ULA networks from WAN block fc00::/7" ridentifier 12005
 block drop in log on ! mvneta0.4091 inet from 10.0.0.0/24 to any ridentifier 1000002520
 block drop in log inet from 10.0.0.254 to any ridentifier 1000002520
 block drop in log on mvneta0.4091 inet6 from <REDACTEDWANIPIPV6> to any ridentifier 1000002520
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4091 inet proto udp from any port = bootpc to 255.255.255.255 port = bootps keep state label "allow access to DHCP server" ridentifier 1000002541
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4091 inet proto udp from any port = bootpc to 10.0.0.254 port = bootps keep state label "allow access to DHCP server" ridentifier 1000002542
 pass out quick on mvneta0.4091 inet proto udp from 10.0.0.254 port = bootps to any port = bootpc keep state label "allow access to DHCP server" ridentifier 1000002543
 block drop in log on ! mvneta0.20 inet from 10.0.20.0/24 to any ridentifier 1000003570
 block drop in log inet from 10.0.20.254 to any ridentifier 1000003570
 block drop in log on mvneta0.20 inet6 from <REDACTEDWANIPIPV6> to any ridentifier 1000003570
 pass in quick on mvneta0.20 inet proto udp from any port = bootpc to 255.255.255.255 port = bootps keep state label "allow access to DHCP server" ridentifier 1000003591
 pass in quick on mvneta0.20 inet proto udp from any port = bootpc to 10.0.20.254 port = bootps keep state label "allow access to DHCP server" ridentifier 1000003592
 pass out quick on mvneta0.20 inet proto udp from 10.0.20.254 port = bootps to any port = bootpc keep state label "allow access to DHCP server" ridentifier 1000003593
 block drop in log on ! mvneta0.30 inet from 10.0.30.0/24 to any ridentifier 1000004620
 block drop in log inet from 10.0.30.254 to any ridentifier 1000004620
 block drop in log on mvneta0.30 inet6 from <REDACTEDWANIPIPV6> to any ridentifier 1000004620
 pass in quick on mvneta0.30 inet proto udp from any port = bootpc to 255.255.255.255 port = bootps keep state label "allow access to DHCP server" ridentifier 1000004641
 pass in quick on mvneta0.30 inet proto udp from any port = bootpc to 10.0.30.254 port = bootps keep state label "allow access to DHCP server" ridentifier 1000004642
 pass out quick on mvneta0.30 inet proto udp from 10.0.30.254 port = bootps to any port = bootpc keep state label "allow access to DHCP server" ridentifier 1000004643
 pass in on lo0 inet all flags S/SA keep state label "pass IPv4 loopback" ridentifier 1000005711
 pass out on lo0 inet all flags S/SA keep state label "pass IPv4 loopback" ridentifier 1000005712
 pass out inet all flags S/SA keep state allow-opts label "let out anything IPv4 from firewall host itself" ridentifier 1000005713
 pass out route-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet from <REDACTEDWANIP> to ! <REDACTEDWANIP>/29 flags S/SA keep state allow-opts label "let out anything from firewall host itself" ridentifier 1000005811
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4091 proto tcp from any to (mvneta0.4091) port = http flags S/SA keep state label "anti-lockout rule" ridentifier 10001
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4091 proto tcp from any to (mvneta0.4091) port = 2424 flags S/SA keep state label "anti-lockout rule" ridentifier 10001
 anchor "userrules/" all
 pass out on mvneta0.30 route-to (mvneta0.4091 10.0.0.13) inet from <OPT3__NETWORK> to 10.20.1.0/24 flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE" label "id:1705199260" label "gw:LINK_SER" ridentifier 1705199260
 pass in quick on openvpn inet all flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: OpenVPN OpenVPN Corp Network wizard" label "id:1656005485" ridentifier 1656005485
 pass in quick on openvpn inet all flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: OpenVPN OpenVPN Secuirty wizard" label "id:1656006325" ridentifier 1656006325
 pass in quick on openvpn inet all flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: OpenVPN OpenVPN Secuirty wizard" label "id:1656006394" ridentifier 1656006394
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto tcp from any to (self) port 21 >< 2425 flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE" label "id:1705251456" ridentifier 1705251456
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto udp from any to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = openvpn keep state label "USER_RULE: OpenVPN OpenVPN Corp Network wizard" label "id:1656005484" ridentifier 1656005484
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto udp from any to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = rsf-1 keep state label "USER_RULE: OpenVPN OpenVPN Secuirty wizard" label "id:1656006324" ridentifier 1656006324
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto udp from any to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = 1196 keep state label "USER_RULE: OpenVPN OpenVPN Secuirty wizard" label "id:1656006393" ridentifier 1656006393
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.15 port = submission flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: NAT SMTP to KACKT STARTTLS" label "id:1689123396" ridentifier 1689123396
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.15 port = smtp flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: NAT " label "id:1689127029" ridentifier 1689127029
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.15 port = imaps flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: NAT " label "id:1689127190" ridentifier 1689127190
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.15 port = imap flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: NAT " label "id:1689129076" ridentifier 1689129076
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.15 port = https flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: NAT 443 to KACKT for MailPlus app" label "id:1700154071" ridentifier 1700154071
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto tcp from REDACTEDEXTERNALIP to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = 6690 flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: Passed via EasyRule" label "id:1700862156" ridentifier 1700862156
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto tcp from REDACTEDEXTERNALIP to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = microsoft-ds flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: Passed via EasyRule" label "id:1700865372" ridentifier 1700865372
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4090 reply-to (mvneta0.4090 <REDACTEDWANIP>) inet proto tcp from REDACTEDEXTERNALIP to 10.0.0.10 port = http-alt flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: NAT " label "id:1704146078" ridentifier 1704146078
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4091 inet from 10.20.1.0/24 to 10.0.0.13 flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: Allow from LINK_SER" label "id:1656006751" ridentifier 1656006751
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4091 inet from 10.0.30.0/24 to 10.0.0.13 flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: Allow from LINK_SER" label "id:1705216069" ridentifier 1705216069
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4091 inet from 10.20.1.0/24 to any flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: Allow from LINK_SER" label "id:1656006686" ridentifier 1656006686
 pass in quick on mvneta0.4091 inet from <LAN__NETWORK> to any flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: Default allow LAN to any rule" label "id:0100000101" ridentifier 100000101
 pass in quick on mvneta0.20 inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.15 port = smtp flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE" label "id:1697941554" ridentifier 1697941554
 pass in quick on mvneta0.20 inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.10 port = http-alt flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE" label "id:1704221032" ridentifier 1704221032
 pass in quick on mvneta0.20 inet proto udp from any to 10.0.0.15 port = submission keep state label "USER_RULE" label "id:1697941439" ridentifier 1697941439
 pass in quick on mvneta0.20 inet proto udp from any to 10.0.0.254 port = ntp keep state label "USER_RULE" label "id:1689820479" ridentifier 1689820479
 block drop in quick on mvneta0.20 inet from any to <OPT3__NETWORK> label "USER_RULE: Block Lan" label "id:1656006984" ridentifier 1656006984
 block drop in quick on mvneta0.20 inet from any to <LAN__NETWORK> label "USER_RULE: Block Lan" label "id:1656006920" ridentifier 1656006920
 block drop in quick on mvneta0.20 inet proto tcp from any to (self) port = 10433 flags S/SA label "USER_RULE: Block Web Interface" label "id:1656006863" ridentifier 1656006863
 pass in quick on mvneta0.20 inet from <OPT2__NETWORK> to any flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE" label "id:1656003821" ridentifier 1656003821
 pass in quick on mvneta0.30 inet proto tcp from any to 10.20.1.0/24 flags S/SA keep state (sloppy) label "USER_RULE" label "id:1705250684" ridentifier 1705250684
 pass in quick on mvneta0.30 inet all flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: Allow Lan" label "id:1656007148" ridentifier 1656007148
 block drop in quick on mvneta0.30 inet from any to <OPT2__NETWORK> label "USER_RULE: Block Lan" label "id:1656007200" ridentifier 1656007200
 block drop in quick on mvneta0.30 inet proto tcp from any to (self) port = 10433 flags S/SA label "USER_RULE: Block Web Interface" label "id:1656007110" ridentifier 1656007110
 pass quick on mvneta0.4091 inet proto tcp from 10.0.0.0/24 to 10.20.1.0/24 flags any keep state (sloppy) label "pass traffic between statically routed subnets" ridentifier 1000006241
 pass quick on mvneta0.4091 inet from 10.0.0.0/24 to 10.20.1.0/24 flags S/SA keep state (sloppy) label "pass traffic between statically routed subnets" ridentifier 1000006242
 pass quick on mvneta0.4091 inet proto tcp from 10.20.1.0/24 to 10.0.0.0/24 flags any keep state (sloppy) label "pass traffic between statically routed subnets" ridentifier 1000006243
 pass quick on mvneta0.4091 inet from 10.20.1.0/24 to 10.0.0.0/24 flags S/SA keep state (sloppy) label "pass traffic between statically routed subnets" ridentifier 1000006244
 anchor "tftp-proxy/" all
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 @darwood 
 This is not helpful. We already know, what is working and what doesn't.Run pfctl -snto check out the NAT rules. 
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 @viragomann said in Static Routing between Lan Vlan OpenVPN: pfctl -sn My bad I had as well but failed to attach it. root: pfctl -sn 
 no nat proto carp all
 nat-anchor "natearly/" all
 nat-anchor "natrules/" all
 nat on mvneta0.30 inet from any to 10.20.1.0/24 -> 10.0.30.254 port 1024:65535
 nat on mvneta0.30 inet from any to <LAN__NETWORK> -> 10.0.30.254 port 1024:65535
 nat on mvneta0.4091 inet from 10.0.0.0/24 to 10.20.1.0/24 -> 10.0.0.254 port 1024:65535
 nat on openvpn inet from 10.0.70.0/24 to 10.20.1.0/24 -> (openvpn) port 1024:65535 round-robin
 nat on openvpn inet from 10.0.80.0/24 to 10.20.1.0/24 -> (openvpn) port 1024:65535 round-robin
 nat on openvpn inet from 10.0.90.0/24 to 10.20.1.0/24 -> (openvpn) port 1024:65535 round-robin
 nat on mvneta0.4090 inet from <tonatsubnets> to any port = isakmp -> <REDACTEDWANIP> static-port
 nat on mvneta0.4090 inet6 from <tonatsubnets> to any port = isakmp -> (mvneta0.4090) round-robin static-port
 nat on mvneta0.4090 inet from <tonatsubnets> to any -> <REDACTEDWANIP> port 1024:65535
 nat on mvneta0.4090 inet6 from <tonatsubnets> to any -> (mvneta0.4090) port 1024:65535 round-robin
 no rdr proto carp all
 rdr-anchor "tftp-proxy/*" all
 rdr on mvneta0.4090 inet proto tcp from any to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = imap -> 10.0.0.15
 rdr on mvneta0.4090 inet proto tcp from <REDACTEDEXTERNALIP> to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = http-alt -> 10.0.0.10
 rdr on mvneta0.4090 inet proto tcp from any to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = imaps -> 10.0.0.15
 rdr on mvneta0.4090 inet proto tcp from any to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = smtp -> 10.0.0.15
 rdr on mvneta0.4090 inet proto tcp from any to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = submission -> 10.0.0.15
 rdr on mvneta0.4090 inet proto tcp from any to <REDACTEDWANIP> port = https -> 10.0.0.15
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 @darwood 
 So I cannot find a proper outbound NAT rule.My assumption is that the gateway only allows access from your LAN subnet. If that's the case you need a rule for masquerading the traffic from VLAN 30 with the LAN address. 
 It should look like this:
 interface: LAN
 source: VLAN 30 subnet
 destination:10.20.1.0/24
 translation: interface address (=LAN address)
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 @viragomann would it need to be floating? It’s on the same interface or no?? 
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 @JonathanLee 
 As I understood, the gateway is connected to LAN. LAN subnet can access the remote devices, but VLAN 30 cannot.So if he masquerade VLAN 30 traffic destined to the remote network with the LAN address it should work. 
 This is done with an outbound NAT rule.
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 You are correct, the solution was to create a outbound nat. I had tried this before but I made a mistake for the interface I selected VLAN30, but this was not the correct interface. The interface should have been LAN. Your solution pointed out that mistake. Thank you. 
