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    IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(

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    • dennypageD
      dennypage
      last edited by dennypage

      Multicast will continue to work without IGMP, it will just be a little less efficient.

      If you want IGMP, you need a rule that passes IGMP with IP options set. If you are want a rule per interface, it would look like this:

      Screenshot 2024-05-08 at 08.39.56.png
      Screenshot 2024-05-08 at 08.39.02.png


      Alternatively, if you have multiple LAN segments, you could also use a floating rule which would look like this:

      Screenshot 2024-05-08 at 08.43.53.png

      Screenshot 2024-05-08 at 08.44.00.png


      The important part is to check the box for Allow IP options.

      Edit: Be sure the IGMP pass rules come before any other pass rules that might match the IGMP packets. I.E. if you have a "pass all" kind of rule, the IGMP rule needs to come before that.

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      • GertjanG
        Gertjan @louis2
        last edited by Gertjan

        @louis2

        To add what @dennypage showed : the (a possible) final result:

        288675e3-4fe1-4205-b8d6-d4a04efcefb5-image.png

        Don't mind the first rule, it's their for a NUT reason.

        Rule 2 and 3 are the only ones you'll ever need. They are pass all rules. I use two rules so I can see how much IPv4 and IPv6.

        Note the presence of the black gear wheel on both rules : the "Allow IP options" is now checked.

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        • dennypageD
          dennypage @Gertjan
          last edited by

          @Gertjan FWIW, I would not recommend adding Allow IP options to a pass all rule. I would restrict this to IGMP.

          There are good reasons that firewalls drop packets with IP options by default.

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            louis2 @dennypage
            last edited by

            @dennypage @Gertjan @stephenw10

            It does not work here also with IP-options set! Let me start with that.
            However:

            That a pass rule can behaves like a block rule, "more more than bizar" !!

            IP-options is necessary for a match, than the rule without IP-options, should simply not match should not do any thing !!
            Letting the rule change in a block rule is simply bizar !!!!!

            But even it I put the IGMP pass rule with options set, put as very first rule in floating table, it does not work!

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            • GertjanG
              Gertjan @louis2
              last edited by

              @louis2 said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

              "more more than bizar" !!

              I know, I know.
              I'm like you : wanted to stop my logs being filled up with 'useless' info.
              This trick did it.

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                louis2 @Gertjan
                last edited by

                @Gertjan

                Gertjan, in my personal vision, I am just as concerned about threats from inside my network as for threats coming from the internet.

                So my rule sets are very strict also for traffic leaving the network!

                • for security reasons first
                • blocking the option that things are collected from the internet for bad, commercial or good reasons ....
                • for privacy reasons

                So I would never ever define a rule like "every thing outgoing allowed.
                Next to that the rules allow all subsets to freely communicate with each other. No way !! Never !!

                My opinion of course!

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                • dennypageD
                  dennypage @louis2
                  last edited by

                  @louis2 said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

                  It does not work here also with IP-options set! Let me start with that.

                  Please post screen shots of your rules.

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                  • dennypageD
                    dennypage @louis2
                    last edited by

                    @louis2 said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

                    IP-options is necessary for a match, than the rule without IP-options, should simply not match should not do any thing !!

                    To be clear, IP options are not matchable like protocols, addresses, ports, etc.

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                      louis2 @dennypage
                      last edited by

                      @dennypage

                      I think I fixed it. The following way:

                      1. I did add as first rule for the vlan:
                        4e05d9d7-b8e2-449e-9001-96971c4f14bd-image.png

                      2. I did reset the states via Diagnostics / States / Rest States

                      Just defining the rule, was not enough !!!

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                      • dennypageD
                        dennypage @louis2
                        last edited by

                        @louis2 Glad you got it working. Thank you for letting me know that you had to perform Reset States. That may help others.

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan @louis2
                          last edited by

                          @louis2 said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

                          So I would never ever define a rule like "every thing outgoing allowed.
                          Next to that the rules allow all subsets to freely communicate with each other. No way !! Never !!

                          I fully agree with that.
                          I've kept the default Netgate LAN firewall rules because I have the luxury of totally trusting all my LAN devices, I don't need to block something from going outside.
                          Beyond the devices, I can also trust the users that uses these devices. I'm lucky, probably.

                          Closing all destination ports, leaving open only port 53,80,443,110,143,995,992, 993, 143 doesn't give me more security, as 99% of all threads are downloaded by users over 443 (a web browser using https) or by mail, for example IMAP SSL, port 993, a mail client.

                          My LAN is my trusted network, and they could access to my other, less trusted networks, like a captive portal, or my server network. These networks can not access my trusted LAN.
                          My non trusted networks have devices I need to admin, like access points etc. I can access these from my LAN.

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          • dennypageD
                            dennypage @Gertjan
                            last edited by

                            @Gertjan In this case, it's a bit more than just passing ports. Allowing IP Options on a pass all rule opens your firewall to these options as well. IMO, you want to be very specific in the circumstance that you allow IP options.

                            I would have a preference to silently dropping all packets with IP options, including IGMP, rather than allowing all IP packets with options.

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                            • GertjanG
                              Gertjan @dennypage
                              last edited by

                              @dennypage said in IGMP IPV4 endless log-messages / rules not working :(:

                              you want to be very specific in the circumstance that you allow IP options.

                              I wanted to clean my logs. I've chosen the fast way out - not necessarily the best one.

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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