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    pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel

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    • LarryFahnoeL
      LarryFahnoe
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      So now that we're past April 1, my comment is that the 2018 announcement portended TNSR, though it certainly also made humorous references. I don't know Jim Thompson, but I do know that having something of a light heart is often a benefit in business. So does this year's announcement simply foretell another chapter in Netgate's evolution? It would seem logical to build upon the work that went into TNSR and the experience gained to create a new firewall product. Certainly seems logical to capitalize on the larger/broader development community, though as the recent xz issue illustrates, targeting and dominance are related. Rather than bemoaning an announcement like this, I see the opportunity to bring the experience gained in the FreeBSD world to bear upon tools from the Linux world. Design skill and methodology are often as or more important than the tools themselves.

      --Larry

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        serbus @SteveITS
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        @SteveITS said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

        ...and from the Reddit link I posted earlier:
        "The FreeBSD userland (and musl for libc) is actually true"

        ...as we watch senior netgate engineering talent wander the aisles of the chimera linux repo...hmmm...

        John

        Lex parsimoniae

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          grahamperrin @keyser
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          @keyser said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

          frankenmonster

          No, and the dates are all wrong.

          Not this month; I'm reliably informed that frankenSense® and myrrhgration will be officially announced on Christmas eve.

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            jwt Netgate @Gertjan
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            @Gertjan said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

            @CreationGuy

            Thanks for making sure that I wasn't the only one reading the blog - RSS feed.

            Serious ...

            Migrating to .... a Linux kernel with a FreeBSD userland.

            You can stop reading after that phrase. I'm not sure what they are smoking over there in Texas, but I want some too.

            Oddly, I was in Colorado when I wrote that blog post.

            This :

            Following in-depth evaluation and collaborative discussions ...

            Where ? With who ? 😊
            For me, this is a one man's discussion with the one he sees in the mirror.

            I assure you there are more than two people in the conversations.

            Or, and why not, I totally do not understand how this might be possible.
            ( without a whole lot more work - entering new uncharted territory and probably sinking the boat called pfSense with the captain called "Netgate" )

            Prediction of failure, Film at 11

            Btw : that's a hint : no one dared to put its name at the top.

            My ego is boundless.

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              jwt Netgate @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

              Nobody is going to release such a statement on 4/1 without it being meant as a joke..

              My name is Nobody

              Nobody

              (I mean, Franco did once call me the “pfSense Cowboy” and I am originally from Nevada, so it fits, right?)

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                jwt Netgate @grahamperrin
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                @grahamperrin said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

                Not this month; I'm reliably informed that frankenSense® and myrrhgration will be officially announced on Christmas eve.

                francoSense already exists. 😀

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                  kstrider
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                  if this is the case it may help out PPPoE cusomers

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                    jwt Netgate @kstrider
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                    @kstrider indeed, but we’re also going to fix the situation on FreeBSD with a new if_pppoe driver that doesn’t use netgraph.

                    Netgraph is the source of the single-threading and resultant performance issues in FreeBSD’s PPPoE implementation.

                    Not wanting more dependence on netgraph and it’s architectural flaws which directly lead to severe performance issues is also the reason we chose to not implement netflow reporting like the other project did, and instead wait to provide it in a performant and more accurate implementation, directly in pf.

                    Eliminating netgraph was also the reason we did the work to eliminate the need for a netgraph module for AT&T fiber customers who need the modem to be on-line to respond to EAPOL frames.

                    PPPoE is the last subsystem in pfsense that uses netgraph, and active development is underway.

                    Thus, the long-standing complaints about PPPoE performance will be addressed, with new work from Netgate.

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                      kstrider @jwt
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                      @jwt ohh thats good to hear is there any sort of estimated timeframe for this change.

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                        slu @kstrider
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                        @kstrider said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

                        @jwt ohh thats good to hear is there any sort of estimated timeframe for this change.

                        Yes I guess 01.04.2025, but not sure...

                        pfSense Gold subscription

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                          fireodo @slu
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                          @slu said in pfSense® Software Embraces Change: A Strategic Migration to the Linux Kernel:

                          Yes I guess 01.04.2025, but not sure...

                          😁 😂 😁

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                            fireodo @slu
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