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    PfSense keeps Port 21 open??

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by

      So unless you forwarded ftp, there is no ftp service running on pfsense so it wold be impossible for that port to be open..  I would have to check if the ftp proxy package would do that, I doubt it since its for clients…  I would think you would know if you installed that and set it up??

      More than likely its some router in front of pfsense.

      edit
      I just installed the ftp/proxy package.. And it does not enable 21 on wan that is for sure..

      edit2
      Ok if you were stupid enough to highlight your WAN interface in the ftp/proxy setup - then yeah 21 would show open on a scan from outside..  Why would anyone do that???

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        IonutZ
        last edited by

        No extra packages, and no FTP. Although I'm considering snort or suricata now.

        I'm not running a router in front of the firewall.

        Comcast -> Modem -> Firewall -> Server (router) -> Switch -> LAN

        Lol, this is really weird - running NMap off of pentest-tools.com doesn't show ftp as being open. Running NMap off of my laptop tethered to my cellphone (not on the same network) still displays 21 open.

        With the mac ftp client, I can open a connection to my ip address:

        ftp> o
        (to) xxx
        Connected to xxx.
        
        421 Service not available, remote server timed out. Connection closed. 
        

        With filezilla it says:

        
        Status:      	Connecting to xxx:21...
        Status:      	Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
        Error:        	Connection timed out after 20 seconds of inactivity
        Error:        	Could not connect to server
        Status:      	Waiting to retry...
        

        Any ideas?

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        • M
          muswellhillbilly
          last edited by

          If you try the ShieldsUP site (www.grc.com), what does it tell you? This sounds like a 'herring-rouge' to me if you're getting conflicting reports from different sources.

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            IonutZ
            last edited by

            @muswellhillbilly:

            If you try the ShieldsUP site (www.grc.com), what does it tell you? This sounds like a 'herring-rouge' to me if you're getting conflicting reports from different sources.

            Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating. Not a single packet — solicited or otherwise — was received from your system as a result of our security probing tests.

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              muswellhillbilly
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              @IonutZ:

              Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating. Not a single packet — solicited or otherwise — was received from your system as a result of our security probing tests.

              There you are then!

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                IonutZ
                last edited by

                Alright sir, I won't worry about it then. Thanks for the help everyone.

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                • JonathanLeeJ
                  JonathanLee
                  last edited by JonathanLee

                  I see the same thing, I think the ONT modem has FTP open because it’s closed on the WAN on the firewall.

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                  • JonathanLeeJ
                    JonathanLee
                    last edited by JonathanLee

                    @muswellhillbilly said in PfSense keeps Port 21 open??:

                    www.grc.com


                    GRC Port Authority Report created on UTC: 2024-07-11 at 06:47:55
                    
                    Results from scan of ports: 0, 21-23, 25, 79, 80, 110, 113, 
                                                119, 135, 139, 143, 389, 443, 445, 
                                                1002, 1024-1030, 1720, 5000
                    
                        0 Ports Open
                       22 Ports Closed
                        4 Ports Stealth
                    ---------------------
                       26 Ports Tested
                    
                    NO PORTS were found to be OPEN.
                    
                    Ports found to be STEALTH were: 0, 135, 139, 445
                    
                    Other than what is listed above, all ports are CLOSED.
                    
                    TruStealth: FAILED - NOT all tested ports were STEALTH,
                                       - NO unsolicited packets were received,
                                       - NO Ping reply (ICMP Echo) was received.
                    

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                    • JonathanLeeJ
                      JonathanLee
                      last edited by

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                      I show this on wan side

                      blocked everything nothing is open

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                      • JonathanLeeJ
                        JonathanLee
                        last edited by

                        But mine said failed 😞

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan @JonathanLee
                          last edited by Gertjan

                          @JonathanLee

                          That's your "ISP device", the one with the ONT. Ports should be stealth ... dono why is activily says 'closed' which means : it was listening. For what ?
                          So 'they' can keep an eye on you ^^

                          But you don't care, your pfSense WAN is locked. Normally, only something like an OpenVPN port 1194 UDP should be open.
                          True, it's now possible to stuff a major doss app into your own local ONT device, and fully focus on your (pfSense) WAN IP without disturbing everybody else.

                          It's probably not useful to ditch this ISP, as other ISP devices don't have ports open, but apps in the device will 'call home' for their updates and other 'control'.

                          The best way out : get an Netgate router with a 'FTP' ONT slot, slide in the FTP adapter that is compatible with the Netgate device and your fiber link.

                          And if possible, open only IPv6 ports. grc.com won't see any fire neither smoke, and you feel safe now ^^

                          Mine went all green decades ago :

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                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          • JonathanLeeJ
                            JonathanLee @Gertjan
                            last edited by JonathanLee

                            @Gertjan I know I pay for a static IP and I set OpenVPN port to a timer like a door it closes at night on a schedule. I like Consolidated never had issues beyond the one off weird bill items when transferring services but they even fixed that with my tantrum, I am sure they have the fiber modem accessible for their team, I am just confused as to why on my zen map it shows wide open and not stealth mode. Anyone that doesn’t use schedules for vpn ports should think about doing that, if your not using your vpn at 3am turn it off right?

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                            • JonathanLeeJ
                              JonathanLee
                              last edited by JonathanLee

                              It is the modem I disconnected everything and ran the test again same ports same issue. That is ISP stuff not my concern my stuff is protected. I got the 2100 it has the stp ports, again consolidated wants that modem, I am just gonna leave it how they have it.

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                              • JonathanLeeJ
                                JonathanLee
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                                @muswellhillbilly said in PfSense keeps Port 21 open??:

                                If you try the ShieldsUP site (www.grc.com), what does it tell you? This sounds like a 'herring-rouge' to me if you're getting conflicting reports from different sources.

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                                Does shields up work with ipv6 also?

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                                • GertjanG
                                  Gertjan @JonathanLee
                                  last edited by

                                  @JonathanLee said in PfSense keeps Port 21 open??:

                                  Does shields up work with ipv6 also?

                                  You've motivated me to find that video again that I ones saw, many years ago, an interview, where he said "Not needed, IPv6 won't make it to the public ...". (Gibson is special ^^)

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
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                                    @Gertjan said in PfSense keeps Port 21 open??:

                                    Gibson is special ^^)

                                    hahah - yeah remember when he said the sky was falling when XP had raw sockets. it was going to crash the internet ;)

                                    He term stealth for not answering ping is just more nonsense. Not sure he is playing with all 52 cards if you know what I mean ;)

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                                    • JonathanLeeJ
                                      JonathanLee
                                      last edited by JonathanLee

                                      Screenshot 2025-07-07 at 18.35.31.png

                                      You know what it was I had it set to reject and not block HAHA I can't believe I didn't see that before, that is a Homer Simpson moment.

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