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      eiger3970 0 @eiger3970 0
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      @eiger3970-0 I unplugged and plugged back in the printer Ethernet cable, but was already firmly in.
      Nothing happened, but right now 5 hours later this computer suddenly started pinging the printer at 192.168.1.160 and added the printer.

      Think I'll test the printer Ethernet cable with a VDV Multimedia tool to confirm the issue isn't the computer or VM router software.

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      • JonathanLeeJ
        JonathanLee
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        off topic bit, but I wanted to share something. I had to block all internet access to my printer because it was passing way to much data every time I printed or scanned to a server in Japan. I submitted a request to disable this and they said it was analytics based and I agreed to it. I did not so I simply blocked all external access. I do not understand why it needed that much analytics information for every single usage of it.

        Anyway pfSense spotted it and blocks it now

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          JonathanLee @eiger3970 0
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          @eiger3970-0 did you set up a dns host override for its ip address and host name? that helped me a bunch with access to it

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JonathanLee
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            @JonathanLee if you can not arp for an IP, doesn't matter if you resolve some fqdn to the IP or not.

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            • JonathanLeeJ
              JonathanLee @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz with my AirPort Extreme that was the only way it would work with the proxy it needed that name stored because it would access it from the url for the scanner part of it.

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JonathanLee
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                @JonathanLee Which has zero to do with trying to ping something on the same network as you and not getting back an arp response.. Do you think this guy is running a transparent proxy between host X on network A and host Y on the same network A that proxies icmp traffic?

                Both errors he showed, dest host unreachable and host is down scream - hey I tried to arp for that IP and got no answer!

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                • JonathanLeeJ
                  JonathanLee
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                  Do you have icmp allowed on the firewall for that subnet?

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                    JonathanLee @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz you know me I assume everything is proxies

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                      bmeeks @JonathanLee
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                      @JonathanLee said in LAN machine can't ping printer:

                      Do you have icmp allowed on the firewall for that subnet?

                      @JonathanLee, he has already said both devices are on the same subnet. There is no network firewall in play at all. The only possibility would be a host firewall in place on the PC or printer, but I've never seen a printer with a built-in host firewall.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bmeeks
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                        @bmeeks yeah me neither.. Even if it did have a firewall, for sake of argument.. The error would of been timeout vs those errors. Since even firewalls allow for arp.

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                        • JonathanLeeJ
                          JonathanLee @johnpoz
                          last edited by JonathanLee

                          @johnpoz said in LAN machine can't ping printer:

                          192.168.1.255.

                          You mean 255.255.255.0 right @eiger3970-0

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JonathanLee
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                            @JonathanLee my guess is he just posted the numbers he saw on an output of ifconfig or something without really understanding what it was

                            inet 192.168.2.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
                            

                            That is just showing the directed broadcast address.

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                                eiger3970 0 @JonathanLee
                                last edited by eiger3970 0

                                @JonathanLee I'm confused?
                                My printer did have network settings:
                                192.168.1.160/24 255.255.255.0, but I changed it to:
                                192.168.1.160/24 192.168.1.255, because the output of the LAN computer and VM router both show:
                                192.168.1.120/24 192.168.1.255 and:
                                192.168.1.170/24 192.168.1.255 respectively.

                                I have always used 255.255.255.0, so I'm a bit unclear why this changed to 192.168.1.255?

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @eiger3970 0
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                                  @eiger3970-0 nothing changed the mask should be 255.255.255.0 or /24.. That 192.168.1.255 is the directed broadcast address.. See the netmask there in my example 0xffffff00, that would convert to 255.255.255.0

                                  No wonder your having issues if you changed the mask to 192.168.1.255 - which to be honest not sure why the printer would even accept such a number, its not a valid network mask.

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                                    eiger3970 0 @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz thanks.
                                    I changed 255.255.255.0 to 192.168.1.255 after the problem, as a fix attempt.

                                    Yes, somehow it's working, but I'll change back to the typical 255.255.255.0 on the printer.

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                                      JonathanLee @eiger3970 0
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                                      @eiger3970-0 Don't change that it should be 255.255.255.0 as your subnet with the cider notion of /24

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                                        eiger3970 0 @JonathanLee
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                                        @JonathanLee Hello, I changed the printe to:
                                        IP address: 192.168.1.160
                                        Netmask: 255.255.255.0
                                        Gateway 192.168.1.170

                                        Unfortunately, the computer won't ping the printer via the VM router?

                                        Computer with Ethernet cable to printer.

                                        linuxmint@linuxmint:~$ ip -c a
                                        1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
                                            link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
                                            inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
                                               valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
                                            inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
                                               valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
                                        2: enp2s0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000
                                            link/ether 1c:61:b4:6d:38:4f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
                                        4: virbr0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default qlen 1000
                                            link/ether 52:54:00:ca:06:f0 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
                                            inet 192.168.122.1/24 brd 192.168.122.255 scope global virbr0
                                               valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
                                        5: br0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000
                                            link/ether 1c:61:b4:6d:38:4f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
                                            inet 192.168.1.120/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global noprefixroute br0
                                               valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
                                            inet6 fe80::1e61:b4ff:fe6d:384f/64 scope link 
                                               valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
                                        6: vnet0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue master br0 state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
                                            link/ether fe:54:00:ac:44:b5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
                                            inet6 fe80::fc54:ff:feac:44b5/64 scope link 
                                               valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
                                        7: vnet1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue master br0 state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
                                            link/ether fe:54:00:a1:d1:e2 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
                                            inet6 fe80::fc54:ff:fea1:d1e2/64 scope link 
                                               valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
                                        8: vnet2: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue master br0 state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
                                            link/ether fe:54:00:09:d3:92 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
                                            inet6 fe80::fc54:ff:fe09:d392/64 scope link 
                                               valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
                                        

                                        VM router:

                                        linuxmint@linuxmint:~$ ssh admin@192.168.1.170
                                        (admin@192.168.1.170) Password for admin@pfSense.home.arpa:
                                        QEMU Guest - Netgate Device ID: 623d6cd6daf11688adb4
                                        
                                        *** Welcome to pfSense 2.7.2-RELEASE (amd64) on pfSense ***
                                        
                                         WAN (wan)       -> re0        -> v4/DHCP4: 100.76.25.213/10
                                         LAN (lan)       -> vtnet0     -> v4: 192.168.1.170/24
                                        
                                         0) Logout (SSH only)                  9) pfTop
                                         1) Assign Interfaces                 10) Filter Logs
                                         2) Set interface(s) IP address       11) Restart webConfigurator
                                         3) Reset webConfigurator password    12) PHP shell + pfSense tools
                                         4) Reset to factory defaults         13) Update from console
                                         5) Reboot system                     14) Disable Secure Shell (sshd)
                                         6) Halt system                       15) Restore recent configuration
                                         7) Ping host                         16) Restart PHP-FPM
                                         8) Shell
                                        
                                        Enter an option: 8
                                        
                                        [2.7.2-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.arpa]/root: ifconfig
                                        vtnet0: flags=1008843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                        	description: LAN
                                        	options=800b8<VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,LINKSTATE>
                                        	ether 52:54:00:09:d3:92
                                        	inet 192.168.1.170 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
                                        	inet6 fe80::5054:ff:fe09:d392%vtnet0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                                        	media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-T <full-duplex>)
                                        	status: active
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        re0: flags=1008843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                        	description: WAN
                                        	options=8209b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC,LINKSTATE>
                                        	ether a8:a1:59:6e:1f:8b
                                        	inet 100.76.25.213 netmask 0xffc00000 broadcast 100.127.255.255
                                        	inet6 fe80::aaa1:59ff:fe6e:1f8b%re0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
                                        	media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                                        	status: active
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        enc0: flags=0 metric 0 mtu 1536
                                        	options=0
                                        	groups: enc
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        lo0: flags=1008049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 16384
                                        	options=680003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,LINKSTATE,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                                        	inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0x0
                                        	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
                                        	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
                                        	groups: lo
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        pflog0: flags=100<PROMISC> metric 0 mtu 33152
                                        	options=0
                                        	groups: pflog
                                        pfsync0: flags=0 metric 0 mtu 1500
                                        	options=0
                                        	maxupd: 128 defer: off version: 1400
                                        	syncok: 1
                                        	groups: pfsync
                                        ovpns1: flags=1008043<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1500
                                        	options=80000<LINKSTATE>
                                        	inet 10.0.8.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.8.255
                                        	inet6 fe80::aaa1:59ff:fe6e:1f8b%ovpns1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
                                        	groups: tun openvpn
                                        	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                                        	Opened by PID 54760
                                        
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                                          eiger3970 0 @eiger3970 0
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                                          @eiger3970-0 Just noticed the computer said Wired Lan cable was unplugged.
                                          I barely touched the Ethernet cable at the back and the RJ45 NIC PCIe LED turned on and green.
                                          I guess that's the LAN enp2s0 that changed from DOWN to UP.
                                          Must be something wrong with the NIC, the NIC's insertion into the MOBO or the cable...nothing was touched before the problem.

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                                          • JonathanLeeJ
                                            JonathanLee
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                                            Your gateway isn’t .1 ?

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