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    ppe @viragomann
    last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 1:16 PM

    @viragomann below, the goal :
    alt network architecture

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      ppe @viragomann
      last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 1:28 PM

      @viragomann sorry if it is not clear; i don't really of the more pertain solution to choose

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        viragomann @ppe
        last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 1:30 PM

        @ppe
        So you can run the wifi as a router. pfSense will only see the routers IP then for all wifi clients connected to it.

        If you enable the DHCP server in pfSense, I'd expect that the router pulls an IP.
        Check out Status > DHCP IPv4 Leases if it is shown up there.

        I can imagine, however, that the wifi router blocks access to its management interface from outside of its own subnet.
        If this is the case, you can circumvent this with an outbound NAT rule.
        But first ensure, that it gets an IP from the DHCP.

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @ppe
          last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 1:35 PM

          @ppe If your tagging with vlan id 3000, its never going to work unless your wifi is setup to understand this tag.

          If you want to setup a different network for wifi. Then do that - but you can not use tagging unless your wifi router understands tagging.

          You should just use your wifi router as an AP.. turn off its dhcp server and connect it to pfsense port via one of the lan ports on the router. If your wifi router does not have a AP mode.

          Good idea to set the IP of the lan interface on your wifi router to be on the network your going to put it on. This 192.168.4/24 network

          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/switch-overview.html

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @ppe
            last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 1:51 PM

            @ppe said in wifi vlan guest network:

            WIFIGUEST_DHCP= 100% loss (status is "Offline, Packetloss")

            That looks like you set the WIFIGUEST interface itself to DHCP which is almost certainly not what you want. That should be set as Static, then add a DHCP server on that in Services > DHCP Server.

            Steve

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              JKnott @ppe
              last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 2:12 PM

              @ppe said in wifi vlan guest network:

              my wifi router is mii 4a (there is no vlan settings available).

              You need VLANs and a 2nd SSID if you want a guest WiFi on the same access point.

              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
              UniFi AC-Lite access point

              I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                ppe
                last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 7:42 AM

                hello, thank you everyone for yours answers !

                i change of wifi router for the tp link archer c59.

                i set to dynamic ip (so every computers are in 192.168.2.0/24) to get internet and i enable "guest wifi".

                But i can access to my servers from guest wifi despite i disable "Allow guests to access my local network"...
                it seems to be a bug : https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/575906

                So, how i can make all devices connected to the 192.168.4.0/24 network in order to be able to block access to the servers using firewall rules ?

                Thanks

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @ppe
                  last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 12:11 PM

                  @ppe said in wifi vlan guest network:

                  i change of wifi router for the tp link archer c59.

                  How is that connected to pfSense? Is it not via the GuestWIFI interface any longer?

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                    ppe @stephenw10
                    last edited by ppe Oct 1, 2024, 12:15 PM Oct 1, 2024, 12:13 PM

                    @stephenw10 all my wifi router can't offer vlan capabilies. so i remove vlan and the wifiguest because, if i well understand, i can't create interface without vlan on a switch (i'm on a sg 2100).

                    now, the wan port of my wifi router is wired to the lan port (N°4) of my pf.

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @ppe
                      last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 12:32 PM

                      @ppe said in wifi vlan guest network:

                      i can't create interface without vlan on a switch (i'm on a sg 2100).

                      where did you get that idea?? You can for sure create a different network on a port on the 2100 that doesn't need tags.

                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/switch-overview.html#port-mode

                      These four switch ports are customizable and each can be configured to act as an independent switches or in groups.

                      In Port VLAN Mode, rather than specifying which interfaces are associated to a VLAN, the configuration can specify which physical ports form a switch.

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 12:41 PM

                        Yup that^. You need to put the WiFi on a separate interface so you can filter the traffic.

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                          ppe
                          last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 2:05 PM

                          i created a new interface using vlan (because no choice) like this :

                          • interfaces / vlans / add
                            • lan
                            • vlan tag = 3000 (mandatory)
                          • interfaces / add

                          i make vlan in port mode :

                          • Interfaces / Switch / VLANs
                            • switch port 5
                              • vlan grp : 4
                              • port : 4
                              • members : 5
                          • removing port 4 from ports (except port 4) in field members

                          but i don't know how associate this interface with the switch port 4 ...

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 2:39 PM

                            Use the instructions here to configured LAN4 as a separate interface:
                            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/configuring-the-switch-ports.html

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                              ppe @stephenw10
                              last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 2:43 PM

                              @stephenw10 i can't use vlan tagged because my wifi router don't recognize vlan

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 2:48 PM

                                The wifi router never sees the VLAN tags. The VLAN is all between pfSense and 2100 on-board switch not external to the 2100.

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                                  ppe @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 3:05 PM

                                  @stephenw10 ok thank, i set 802... vlan

                                  but i have no internet from wifi router. On this, i set static ip : 192.168.4.1 and 192.168.2.1 as gateaway

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @ppe
                                    last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 3:06 PM

                                    @ppe said in wifi vlan guest network:

                                    192.168.4.1 and 192.168.2.1 as gateaway

                                    what?

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 3:08 PM

                                      Um...yeah, where did you set that?

                                      Where ever it is the gateway must be in the same subnet as the interface address.

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                                        ppe @stephenw10
                                        last edited by ppe Oct 1, 2024, 3:13 PM Oct 1, 2024, 3:12 PM

                                        @stephenw10 i think i made a mistake. i'm back to "dynamic ip" and my wifi took well an ip from 192.168.4.0/24

                                        but i have no internet... i set a captive portal also, i will check tomorrow what's wrong

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @ppe
                                          last edited by johnpoz Oct 1, 2024, 3:17 PM Oct 1, 2024, 3:14 PM

                                          @ppe there you go, so your client got an IP from the dhcp server on pfsense is a good sign your connected... Now you would create the rules you want on that pfsense inteface to allow or block what you want for clients on this network.

                                          Here is an example set of rules you might put on a guest network.. that allows for internet but not talking to any of your other networks

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                                          Creating the rfc1918 alias is helpful, it just contains all the rfc1918 networks 10/8, 192.168/16 and 172.16/12 witch would be normally any other networks you might setup locally.

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