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    I can not block WAN port?

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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan @mucip
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      @mucip said in I can not block WAN port?:

      I remember that all ports shoud be default closed.

      Easy to validate that: Re-activate default settings, by using :

      9cfea5ef-eaac-4c03-aa65-50fb9c166064-image.png

      and you'll see an empty :

      d6dfcfcb-8bfb-40ad-9192-29d3c8021cc7-image.png

      which means : nothing can come in.

      From then on, the admin takes over, starts adding stuff and all kind off things happens .... 😊

      Even with all my WAN rules (NAT and others) :

      2f4bd723-2ce4-439a-80e4-57fe384a6617-image.png

      657e2ef8-5ea3-4b98-86a2-4caa4898d338-image.png

      Btw : this test is very incomplete as it is only IPv4 based and probably only TCP.

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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      • mucipM
        mucip @Gertjan
        last edited by mucip

        Dear @Gertjan ,
        Unfortunatelly I can not back to defaults. Because I have many things in config yes.
        But this is really very interesting.
        Where this 1024 port come from?...

        Regards,
        Mucip:)

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mucip
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          @mucip device in front of pfsense.. Your wan rules shown would not allow for any port forwards you have - even if you have cameras behind pfsense.

          Do you have rules in floating? So you have port forwards that send to your cameras, but for those to work your wan would have to allow for that.. Which you show there are not any - unless you have something floating.

          nor would your rules even allow for the default 80/443 that pfsense could be listening on.

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          • mucipM
            mucip @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz,
            No, I don't have any floating rules.

            a2b57bbc-f2a5-435c-8d4f-fcdd45a5871e-resim.png

            By the way I have NAT for camera and web server behind the pfsense. Everything normal. Except 1024?!

            Regards,
            Mucip:)

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mucip
              last edited by johnpoz

              @mucip said in I can not block WAN port?:

              By the way I have NAT

              No you don't there is no way your port forward in pfsense would work without a firewall rule to allow it.f And you have no rules in floating and no rules on your wan that would allow it..

              So you could have whatever you want in port forwards, and they wouldn't work.

              I would suggest you look at your full ruleset, maybe your gui is not showing you the rules or something - but from what you posted you could have 100 different port forwards and none of them would work, because you have no firewall rules on the wan to allow them.

              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/pf-ruleset.html

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              • mucipM
                mucip @johnpoz
                last edited by

                @johnpoz ,
                Maybe I misexplained sory.
                I have NAT rules and also releated Firewall rules. No problem. Cameras are working. 80/443 are working and other NAT ports are working correctly.
                Maybe there is 1024 port opne in rules but GUI don't show it I don't know?

                Can I see the firewall rules in console viewer to check?

                Regards,
                Mucip:)

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mucip
                  last edited by

                  @mucip said in I can not block WAN port?:

                  Maybe I misexplained sory.

                  The wan rules you posted would not allow anything.. Did you not post up your firewall rules?

                  These rules show nothing would be allowed

                  rules.jpg

                  And again - with what you posted there is zero reason to put in any blocks because every interface has a default deny.. And that rule you put in for 1024 would never trigger anyway because you have the source port set to 1024, not the destination port.. The traffic you show as open is TO 1024, not from a source port of 1024

                  If you want people to help you - post up your full port forwarders and your full wan rule set.. But what you posted, no port forwards would be allowed.

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                  • mucipM
                    mucip @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz ,
                    Sure I have many more rules after than last 1024 line above picture. I don't want to send them all rows because of security reasons.

                    Yes I changed it to destination port. But still looking open unfortunatelly?!

                    95bb7372-f58b-48c2-af57-2ffcca4d9f6e-resim.png

                    Regards,
                    Mucip:)

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                    • Bob.DigB
                      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @mucip
                      last edited by Bob.Dig

                      @mucip NAT rules can be set to "pass", so that is a possibility. But if you don't know the difference between source and destination port, you have bigger problems to begin with. 😉

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                      • mucipM
                        mucip @Bob.Dig
                        last edited by

                        @Bob-Dig,
                        No. There isn't any line ported 1024 in NAT page either.

                        Regards,
                        Mucip:)

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mucip
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          @mucip because its not pfsense - do you have a port forward sending 1024 somewhere? If not then pfsense should not be listening on that port that is for sure.. But you can easy check with a netstat.. And again the rules you posted wouldn't allow anything.. can not help you figure out what you have that is allowing answer from some port if can not see your rules.

                          1024 can be used for modem admin, etc. it is quite possible your isp device in front of pfsense is answering on that..

                          Here is what I would do, do a simple sniff on pfsense wan - go to can you see me . org send some traffic to tcp 1024.. Do you see an answer.. If you do then pfsense or something behind it answered.. If you do not even see the 1024 hit you, then something upstream answered, or even if you do see it hit pfsense wan - if you don't see an answer then its not showing up because pfsense answered - but something in front of your pfsense did.

                          Here is example of sending traffic to my wan on 1024.

                          canyou.jpg

                          So clearly my pfsense or nothing behind it answered - so it shows closed. Do the same test - do you see it hitting your pfsense, do you see pfsense answer it?

                          edit: here is an example of seeing either pfsense or something you port forwarded to answering... See how I see a response sent back with my packet capture on pfsense wan

                          answer.jpg

                          Because I port forward that port to something behind pfsense.

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                          • mucipM
                            mucip @johnpoz
                            last edited by

                            @johnpoz said in I can not block WAN port?:

                            1024 can be used for modem admin, etc. it is quite possible your isp device in front of pfsense is answering on that..

                            This might be the answer.
                            There is modem in front of the PfSense. I need to check it too...

                            95585282-6ea6-488f-948e-f0eb689e16e1-resim.png

                            Regards,
                            Mucip:)

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mucip
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              @mucip so - for your own sanity, do the packet capture on pfsense wan when you do that test, do you see that 1024 hit pfsense wan, do you see a response.

                              If you don't then clearly you have a smoking gun that something in front of pfsense answered it.

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                              • mucipM
                                mucip @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz said in I can not block WAN port?:

                                so - for your own sanity, do the packet capture on pfsense wan when you do that test, do you see that 1024 hit pfsense wan, do you see a response.

                                You're right. :)
                                I did not try Packet Capure until now. I will googling and inform you.

                                But it'looks modem answerign it?

                                Regards,
                                Mucip:)

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