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    New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!

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      netblues @drewsaur
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      @drewsaur said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

      @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

      @drewsaur Of course it is
      A release candidate has just been released, both for plus and 2.8ce
      Usually the stable release isn't far away, most probably within May, unless of course something comes up.

      25.7 is expected some time in August/September based on previous experience.
      However netgate can surprise us too.

      Well thank you for that but I am not sure what you mean about "of course" because I saw no announcement of an RC anywhere, and there has never been a .07 release ever before. Given those that plus the fact that software is released by human beings, there are no "of courses" in life.

      rc for 2.8 has been released
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      together with another 25.03 beta 25.03.b.20250515.1415
      I stand corrected, this isn't an rc, but since a new beta comes out every week or so, an rc will follow soon.
      As for 0.7, it means it is scheduled for july. (as 0.3 was scheduled for March)
      Noone can say much if 25.07 might be skipped altogether (as has happened in the past, because code is code) but no, 25.03 will NOT become 25.07.
      Judging from the betas stability and issues, and rc and release can't be far away.

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        Gertjan
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        Beta 6 (?) from 15 may up and running.

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          drewsaur @netblues
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          @netblues RC announced this AM for 2.8 CE but. It for Plus…

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            drewsaur @drewsaur
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            Sorry … but not for Plus.

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              drewsaur @Gertjan
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              @Gertjan said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

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              Beta 6 (?) from 15 may up and running.

              Completely aware, and that’s not a RC or similar indication that a final release is imminent.

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                Gertjan @drewsaur
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                @drewsaur said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                and that’s not a RC ...

                This is not an RC (2.8.0) thread. See Topic at top of page. It's Plus stuff here 😊

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                  drewsaur @Gertjan
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                  @Gertjan said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                  @drewsaur said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                  and that’s not a RC ...

                  This is not an RC (2.8.0) thread. See Topic at top of page. It's Plus stuff here 😊

                  I am aware of that. My comment was in relation to another post above.

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                    keyser Rebel Alliance
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                    This must be one of the longest BETA periods for pfsense. The first BETA was released in early february as far as I remember. That’s almost 4 months now, and still no RC.

                    Is it going to replace/be renamed to fit the schedule of a 25.07 release, and simply bump all planned versions one .xx?

                    Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                      netblues @keyser
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                      @keyser If betas uncover issues, they need to be fixed, There isn't much value pushing out half baked code and then release fixes that need to be tested in production environments AGAIN.
                      Rebooting firewalls in production with new firmware is never for the faint at heart.

                      Additionally 25.03 is in sync (if not based) on 2.8ce (which has a release candidate too)
                      At least freebsd version is the same (and had the same issues too).

                      For what is worth, 25.07 might get skipped and go for an early November update, (25.03 stands for March 2025) but in essence this is rather irrelevant since its the features (and stability) that counts, not the versions.

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                        SteveITS Galactic Empire @netblues
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                        @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                        Additionally 25.03 is in sync (if not based) on 2.8ce (which has a release candidate too)

                        But 2.8 has been released, many many minutes ago! (/s)

                        My comment a couple years back was that using year.month notation would always imply a release date and thus “get Netgate into trouble” by setting expectations, three times per year. IOW, if it was named “25.A” we’d just be waiting.

                        Microsoft went through that with Windows 10 and eventually changed to two releases a year, then H1/H2 numbering, then just H2 with new features being added along the way.

                        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                          netblues @SteveITS
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                          @SteveITS Comparing Microsoft to Netgate has its own merits :)
                          Do you really think that expect from the ones that lurk in this forum, anyone has a clue what 25.03 really stands for?

                          In any case its nice to see 2.8ce released, and its rater safe to expect a plus rc really soon.

                          I guess all those comments regarding abandoned ce version are now irrelevant too.

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                            netblues @netblues
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                            @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                            @SteveITS Comparing Microsoft to Netgate has its own merits :)
                            Do you really think that apart from the ones that lurk in this forum, anyone has a clue what 25.03 really stands for?

                            In any case its nice to see 2.8ce released, and its rater safe to expect a plus rc really soon.

                            I guess all those comments regarding abandoned ce version are now irrelevant too.

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                              SteveITS Galactic Empire @netblues
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                              @netblues said in New pfSense Plus 25.03-BETA is here!:

                              all those comments regarding abandoned ce version are now irrelevant too.

                              Are you kidding?? There's no source code available for 2.9! :(

                              Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                              When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                                netblues @SteveITS
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                                @SteveITS So does this make it an abandoned project?

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                                  Gertjan @SteveITS
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                                  @SteveITS

                                  No source (code ?) for 2.9 ?

                                  Took me one click to find this https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense :

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                                  and just for fun, see what marcos-ng wrote a couple of hours ago : it's a solution for the IGMP firewall log issue, see elsewhere on the forum.
                                  So, that one didn't make it into 2.8.0 and will be part a future version, let's say "2.9.0".

                                  I probably just listed the first official System path for 2.8.0 😊
                                  And because pfSense plus 25.0x will come out later on this solution will get included.

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                    I just updated my SG4200 to 25.03. BETA which worked flawlessly. I'm using ACME, DDNS, pfBlockerNG, OpenVPN, Unbound. Also switched to new PPoE method. It fixed the Ram Drive size and it seems that I no longer have problems connecting to MS Teams. In the past couple of months I had to update (change MTU or something else) my PPoE WAN Interface to be able to join MS Teams meetings. After 1-2 hours I had to reset the WAN Interface again to be able to join again. Up until today I was not able to figure out what it was, but it seems that it is fixed now.

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                                      netblues @ITSGS_
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                                      @ITSGS_ Rest assured, your issues with teams and previous versions have nothing to do with pfsense per se or pppoe. Far too many users are doing exaclty the same, for years now.

                                      These are provider things, that just happened to be fixed at the same time period.

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                                        ITSGS_ @netblues
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                                        @netblues I'm not too sure about that. My neighbour is working at the same company and has the same internet provider but a different router. He had no issues. I just wanted to let the internet know in case someone has the same problem.

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                                          netblues @ITSGS_
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                                          @ITSGS_ If there are mtu issues then nothing really works.
                                          Same goes for disconnections.
                                          In a ppp connection it always take two to tango
                                          One is the isp bras and the other is the pppoe client.

                                          Since the protocol is far too old to have issues, switching to the new, multi kernel optimized version, can't solve anything on the mtu or stability side too.

                                          I don't say what you observed is untrue.
                                          However doing a root cause analysis here seems impossible.

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                                            ITSGS_ @netblues
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                                            @netblues All true what you said. I do not know the cause. I neither captured packages or did anything else. It's just "a guess". But the information that it works after switching to the BETA might help somebody searching for a "easy" solution.

                                            Next time I won't be lazy and start a topic about it. :-)

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