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    PPPoE: Problems getting an IPv6 address on reconnection and other problems

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    • w0wW
      w0w
      last edited by

      Got this uptime bug again:
      daf7a376-e397-42bd-81b6-3342a69d6bbe-{82A34248-524A-4260-A170-6E7CA8E1B020}.png

      dev: lagg3 state: session
      	sid: 0x13bb PADI retries: 0 PADR retries: 0 time: 00:01:11
      	sppp: phase network authproto auto authname "uuuuuu" peerproto auto
      	dns: xxx.7.0.x3 xxx.7.9.x4
      

      Some spam in log also

      2025-06-18 21:53:38.347634+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      2025-06-18 21:53:38.328776+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      2025-06-18 21:53:38.311046+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      2025-06-18 21:53:38.292505+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      2025-06-18 21:53:38.277009+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      2025-06-18 21:53:38.253711+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      2025-06-18 21:53:38.239866+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      2025-06-18 21:53:38.226714+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      2025-06-18 21:53:38.213645+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      2025-06-18 21:53:38.200538+03:00 	php 	51068 	/usr/local/sbin/ppp-ipv6: Gateway, switch to:
      
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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, odd. That's with the new test patch for if_pppoe?

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        • w0wW
          w0w @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10 said in PPPoE: Problems getting an IPv6 address on reconnection and other problems:

          That's with the new test patch for if_pppoe?

          Yes.

          One more thing: the link always comes up fine after a clean boot. Also I have better luck if I don’t click Connect WAN immediately after the page reloads from Disconnect WAN. It feels as though something is still running and hasn’t fully released when the new session starts.

          Also, this message seems new—I don’t recall seeing it before the last build/patch :

          2025-06-19 05:35:10.946591+03:00 	kernel 	- 	if_pppoe: pppoe0: failed to clear IP address: 49 
          
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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Hmm OK. And without the patch what behaviour were you seeing? Just failing to pull an IPv6 address?

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            • w0wW
              w0w @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10
              This need to be tested. Hope I'll do it soon.
              Also I've seen that another one patch coming...

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Yup, work on this is ongoing! 😄

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                • w0wW
                  w0w
                  last edited by

                  Some additional testing has been done. The uptime bug and the missing default route were probably caused by a custom script that I forgot to shut down. The issue seems impossible to reproduce when the script is disabled, or at least it seems not so easy to reproduce without this script.

                  The bad news is that IPv6 behaviour is still almost the same: most of the time I get only IPv4 or only IPv6 on the WAN interface, and then it disappears. However, almost every time I reboot the firewall I get both IPv4 and IPv6 running, so the problem occurs only when reconnecting.
                  And without the patch I don't see any difference.

                  I wonder, then, what the difference is between bringing up PPPoE during the firewall’s boot and restarting PPPoE manually or when it is triggered by other causes?

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Ah, OK.
                    So, with our testing patch, what do you see in the logs after disconnecting and reconnecting the pppoe WAN in Status > Interfaces?

                    I forget if you were previously seeing RAs from your ISP? But the patch is expected to allow pulling an IPv6 lease when ISPs do not send an RA.

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                    • w0wW
                      w0w
                      last edited by

                      Disconnection log disconnect_masked.txt
                      Connection log connect_masked.txt
                      I don’t see anything unusual—perhaps only the CARP storming. I use CARP only on WAN2 and the LAN subnets, not on the PPPoE WAN.

                      @stephenw10 said in PPPoE: Problems getting an IPv6 address on reconnection and other problems:

                      I forget if you were previously seeing RAs from your ISP?

                      Every 3 seconds I receive RA packet from ISP. Before the early patch, I was getting a massive storm of log entries and all services kept restarting continuously, and so on, because of that. Now I have problem with receiving Ipv6 but only on reconnection. A clean boot simply works, and in rare cases, just saving the WAN interface settings and applying the changes works too. The same behavior first time occurred on the first 25.03 beta available, without new backend active.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Hmm, so if you disconnect the pppoe and reconnect it in Status > Interfaces what do you see logged?

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                        • w0wW
                          w0w @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10
                          Yes

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Um I was hoping for an actual log to look through. 😉

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                            • w0wW
                              w0w @stephenw10
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10
                              I just wasn’t fully awake when I read the message — for some reason, it seemed like the question was worded differently.
                              The last log I posted was actually from when I pressed disconnect and then arter it disconnected, connect.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Could be my turn to find more coffee then! Where is that log?

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                                • w0wW
                                  w0w @w0w
                                  last edited by

                                  @w0w said in PPPoE: Problems getting an IPv6 address on reconnection and other problems:

                                  Disconnection log disconnect_masked.txt
                                  Connection log connect_masked.txt

                                  My FF opens those attachments just fine.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Ha, OK. Definitely more coffee required! Somehow read straight past those. 🤦

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                                    • w0wW
                                      w0w
                                      last edited by w0w

                                      pppoe0: flags=1008851<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1492
                                      	description: WAN
                                      	options=0
                                      	inet xx.52.22.101 --> yyy.7.29.248 netmask 0xffffffff
                                      	inet6 fe80::aab8:e0ff:fe02:6zz9%pppoe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x11
                                      	inet6 2001:1b28:b248:e39:NNNN:e0ff:fe02:6zz9 prefixlen 64 autoconf pltime 604800 vltime 2592000
                                      	groups: pppoec
                                      	nd6 options=123<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV,AUTO_LINKLOCAL,NO_DAD>
                                      

                                      This is what I see when I get IPv6 only on WAN. Sometimes it shows also "detached" in Ipv6 options

                                      If I run rtsol pppoe0 I am getting

                                      rtsol: pppoe0 does not accept Router Advertisement.
                                      

                                      So if I force it by issuing

                                      ifconfig pppoe0 inet6 -ifdisabled -no_radr accept_rtadv
                                      rtsol -F pppoe0
                                      

                                      This results in the same outcome — I still receive an IPv6 address marked detached or not and after some time it disappears.

                                      On reboot of firewall I am getting

                                      pppoe0: flags=1008851<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,LOWER_UP> metric 0 mtu 1492
                                      	description: WAN
                                      	options=0
                                      	inet xx.52.5.227 --> yyy.7.29.248 netmask 0xffffffff
                                      	inet6 fe80::aab8:e0ff:fe02:6zz9%pppoe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x10
                                      	inet6 2001:1234:b248:e39:NNNN:e0ff:fe02:6zz9 prefixlen 64 detached autoconf pltime 604800 vltime 2592000
                                      	inet6 2001:4321:d248:ffff:f8b3:abab:1435:769f prefixlen 128 pltime 86400 vltime 172800
                                      	inet6 2001:4321:d248:ffff:49e6:baba:d204:50b8 prefixlen 128 pltime 86400 vltime 172800
                                      	groups: pppoec
                                      	nd6 options=123<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV,AUTO_LINKLOCAL,NO_DAD>
                                      

                                      IPv6 works fine then.

                                      I am not quite sure what it means, but…

                                      EDIT:
                                      It turns out that when I enable the “Do Not Wait for RA” option, the interface receives all addresses just fine.
                                      Curiously, I recall having trouble obtaining addresses even with that option enabled. I probably need to run some more tests—maybe the other settings I tried in combination are now doing the trick.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Ah, OK. So, yes, if your ISP requires that then it should now work correctly with the new patch.

                                        So with that set is it working as expected for you?

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                                        • w0wW
                                          w0w @stephenw10
                                          last edited by w0w

                                          @stephenw10 said in PPPoE: Problems getting an IPv6 address on reconnection and other problems:

                                          So, yes, if your ISP requires that then it should

                                          It was not required until 23.05.
                                          Of course, this doesn’t necessarily mean that it worked without that option in version 24.11, but it definitely works without it in 23.09. In fact, the need to enable this option in earlier alpha versions of 23.05 is what originally led to the creation of a patch, which was supposed to fix the issue that occurred without this option enabled. And logically, the problem—namely, log spam and endless restarts of services triggered by each RA received from the ISP—did stop, so I assumed I no longer needed the option.

                                          Apologies for the slight confusion... But again, how is one supposed to make sense of all these modern connection and address assignment algorithms, when in one version of pfSense I need to enable this option, and in another, everything works fine without it?

                                          Definitely will test later and report back with this option enabled.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Yup, this has been an interesting learning experience. Basically that mpd5/netgraph is doing a bunch of things I never thought it was so if_pppoe handling had to be improved.

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