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    25.07.r.20250709.2036 First Boot WireGuard Service not running

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    • Bob.DigB
      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
      last edited by

      @stephenw10 Here is the config of the most problematic WG-Interface, just in case.

      Screenshot 2025-07-21 at 14-33-06 pfSense.internal - Interfaces VPNcWgNtcp (tun_wg0).png

      Screenshot 2025-07-21 at 14-36-01 pfSense.internal - VPN WireGuard Peers Edit.png

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      • Bob.DigB
        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
        last edited by

        @stephenw10 Sidenote, I noticed that Lawrence Systems would do it differently, making the gateway address the same as the interface address but I don't think that this is mandatory and the Configuration Recipe doesn't show that either.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Yup I meant if the tunnel subnets did not exist then dpinger would be expected to fail. They are there in that output but is that after rebooting when WG fails to start?

          It feels like it could be a timing/ordering issue where dpinger tries to start before the WG config has been applied creating the routes. But if so that should be evident in the log order.

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          • Bob.DigB
            Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
            last edited by Bob.Dig

            @stephenw10 said in 25.07.r.20250709.2036 First Boot WireGuard Service not running:

            They are there in that output but is that after rebooting when WG fails to start?

            Here is right after a reboot with WG down, again.

            10.3.9.0/29	link#16	U	7	1420	tun_wg3	
            10.3.9.1	link#2	UHS	8	16384	lo0	
            10.3.9.8/30	link#17	U	30	1420	tun_wg4	
            10.3.9.9	link#2	UHS	34	16384	lo0	
            10.3.9.12/30	link#18	U	53	1420	tun_wg5	
            10.3.9.13	link#2	UHS	54	16384	lo0	
            10.3.9.24/29	link#20	U	58	1420	tun_wg0	
            10.3.9.26	link#2	UHS	60	16384	lo0	
            10.3.12.0/24	link#19	U	55	1280	tun_wg6	
            10.3.12.1	link#2	UHS	56	16384	lo0	
            10.3.13.0/24	link#27	U	20	1500	hn0.2	
            10.3.13.1	link#2	UHS	25	16384	lo0	
            10.3.178.0/24	link#8	U	9	1500	hn3	
            10.3.178.2	link#2	UHS	10	16384	lo0
            

            With every reboot I will get a new IPv6 and often IPv4 thanks to PPPoE and my ISP...

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Hmm, so can you see in the logs that dpinger is failing to start during that reboot? And can you see if that's before WG tries to start?

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              • Bob.DigB
                Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10 Hope this helps...

                System LogsSystemGeneral.txt

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Do you have kern.cam.boot_delay=10000 in /boot/loader.conf?

                  I note it is removed from some hosts and could be relevant here.

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                  • Bob.DigB
                    Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                    last edited by Bob.Dig

                    @stephenw10 said in 25.07.r.20250709.2036 First Boot WireGuard Service not running:

                    Do you have kern.cam.boot_delay=10000 in /boot/loader.conf?

                    Don't think so, changed nothing myself I would say.

                    opensolaris_load="YES"
                    zfs_load="YES"
                    kern.geom.label.disk_ident.enable="0"
                    kern.geom.label.gptid.enable="0"
                    kern.ipc.nmbclusters="1000000"
                    kern.ipc.nmbjumbo9="524288"
                    kern.ipc.nmbjumbop="524288"
                    loader_conf_files="/boot/loader.conf.lua"
                    boot_serial="NO"
                    autoboot_delay="3"
                    debug.ddb.capture.bufsize="524288"
                    hw.e6000sw.default_disabled=1
                    net.link.ifqmaxlen="128"
                    machdep.hwpstate_pkg_ctrl="1"
                    net.pf.states_hashsize="262144"
                    

                    if _ENV["smbios.system.maker"] == "Netgate" then
                    	if _ENV["smbios.system.product"] == "4100" or _ENV["smbios.system.product"] == "6100" or _ENV["smbios.system.product"] == "6200" or _ENV["smbios.system.product"] == "8200" then
                    		print("Netgate Cordoba System detected.")
                    		_ENV["console"]="efi"
                    		_ENV["hint.cordbuc.0.at"]="isa"
                    		_ENV["hint.cordbuc.0.port"]="0x800"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.0.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.0.pins"]="0x001"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.0.name"]="red1"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.0.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.1.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.1.pins"]="0x002"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.1.name"]="green1"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.1.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.2.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.2.pins"]="0x004"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.2.name"]="blue1"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.2.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.3.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.3.pins"]="0x008"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.3.name"]="amber1"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.3.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.4.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.4.pins"]="0x010"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.4.name"]="red2"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.4.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.5.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.5.pins"]="0x020"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.5.name"]="green2"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.5.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.6.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.6.pins"]="0x040"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.6.name"]="blue2"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.6.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.7.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.7.pins"]="0x080"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.7.name"]="amber2"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.7.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.8.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.8.pins"]="0x100"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.8.name"]="red3"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.8.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.9.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.9.pins"]="0x200"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.9.name"]="green3"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.9.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.10.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.10.pins"]="0x400"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.10.name"]="blue3"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.10.invert"]="1"
                    
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.11.at"]="gpiobus0"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.11.pins"]="0x800"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.11.name"]="amber3"
                    		_ENV["hint.gpioled.11.invert"]="1"
                    	end
                    	if _ENV["smbios.system.product"] == "4200" then
                    		print("Netgate 4200 detected.")
                    		_ENV["console"]="efi"
                    		_ENV["hw.uart.console"]="mm:0xfe03e000"
                    		_ENV["dev.igc.0.iflib.override_nrxqs"]="1";
                    		_ENV["dev.igc.1.iflib.override_nrxqs"]="1";
                    		_ENV["dev.igc.2.iflib.override_nrxqs"]="1";
                    		_ENV["dev.igc.3.iflib.override_nrxqs"]="1";
                    	end
                    	if _ENV["smbios.system.product"] == "8300" then
                    		print("Netgate 8300 detected.")
                    		_ENV["ice_ddp_load"]="yes"
                    		_ENV["led_8300_load"]="yes"
                    		_ENV["igpio_load"]="yes"
                    		_ENV["kern.crypto.iimb.max_threads"]="12"
                    	end
                    end
                    
                    if string.sub(_ENV["smbios.planar.product"], 1, 11) == "80300-0134-" then
                    	print("Netgate 7100 detected.")
                    	_ENV["boot_serial"]="YES"
                    	_ENV["console"]="comconsole"
                    	_ENV["hint.mdio.0.at"]="ix2"
                    	_ENV["hint.e6000sw.0.addr"]="0"
                    	_ENV["hint.e6000sw.0.is8190"]="1"
                    	_ENV["hint.e6000sw.0.port0disabled"]="1"
                    	_ENV["hint.e6000sw.0.port9cpu"]="1"
                    	_ENV["hint.e6000sw.0.port10cpu"]="1"
                    	_ENV["hint.e6000sw.0.port9speed"]="2500"
                    	_ENV["hint.e6000sw.0.port10speed"]="2500"
                    end
                    
                    if _ENV["smbios.system.product"] == "DFFv2" or _ENV["smbios.system.product"] == "RCC" or _ENV["smbios.system.product"] == "RCC-VE" then
                    	print("Netgate RCC detected.")
                    	_ENV["boot_serial"]="YES"
                    	_ENV["console"]="comconsole"
                    	_ENV["comconsole_port"]="0x2F8"
                    	_ENV["hint.uart.0.at"]="isa"
                    	_ENV["hint.uart.0.flags"]="0x00"
                    	_ENV["hint.uart.1.at"]="isa"
                    	_ENV["hint.uart.1.flags"]="0x10"
                    end
                    
                    comconsole_speed="115200"
                    

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Hmm, try adding it there or to loader.conf.local and see if that changes anything at boot.

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                      • Bob.DigB
                        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                        last edited by Bob.Dig

                        @stephenw10 said in 25.07.r.20250709.2036 First Boot WireGuard Service not running:

                        or to loader.conf.local and see if that changes anything at boot.

                        WG-problem still there. Or did you mean something different?

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Nope that's what I meant, the delay at boot could have impacted a race condition at boot.

                          Looking at that boot log there is a lot of stuff happening during boot. Some of that might be better suppressed but that can cause other issues.

                          What was the last version that booted correctly?

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                          • Bob.DigB
                            Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                            last edited by Bob.Dig

                            @stephenw10 said in 25.07.r.20250709.2036 First Boot WireGuard Service not running:

                            What was the last version that booted correctly?

                            It looks like 25.07.r.20250715.1733 is most problematic with every reboot.
                            25.07.r.20250709.2036 only had this problem on the first boot after the upgrade.

                            I just booted through all the snapshots to verify this. Although my network is evolving all the time, but it looks like 25.07.r.20250715.1733 is the reason.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Hmm, OK those dpinger error logs above are not in the given systen log txt. I assume those do appear in the system log? But not at boot?

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                              • Bob.DigB
                                Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10 I can wait 20 minutes and post again if this helps. Can I upload to another place than the public forum? And I guess I should post the logfile and not copying stuff from the browser. 😉

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Yup you can upload here: https://nc.netgate.com/nextcloud/s/rLWRrGHTF6MoNaW

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                                  • Bob.DigB
                                    Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 This dpinger stuff is only in the log after I "enabled" the gateways by hand.
                                    This time, I had halted pfSense before, kea-dhcp4 wasn't running according to service status widget.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Hmm, so in that log after 'Bootup complete' none of the WG tunnels or gateways were up?

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                                      • Bob.DigB
                                        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                                        last edited by Bob.Dig

                                        @stephenw10 I dropped you some pictures what I actually see and this is interesting, at least to me. I just rebooted to have the same problem.

                                        1. Dashboard shows none of the WireGuard Gateways and Service Status shows WireGuard not running. If I push the button to start WireGuard, nothing happens.
                                        2. WireGuard Status shows that only the connection to Debian is not running, others do. (Others in red are expected to not run and are not of interest.)
                                        3. In Gateways I enable all of the WireGuard Gateways by hand, they are for whatever reason not enabled.
                                        4. Going back to WireGuard Status I now see a warning that WireGuard is not running (why not before?). Then I press the button to start the WireGuard Service and this time it does.
                                        5. Everything is running and working like it should.
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                                        • Bob.DigB
                                          Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 I made some further changes. I removed the gateway for that problematic tunnel and also removed keep alive etc so that it is not expected to be running at start.
                                          That didn't changed anything for me. At next reboot, gateways are down as is WireGuard. So it seems more of a general problem, although no one else is reporting it...

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