Translation of webgui
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I think this is turning into a whining fest, quite frankly. If it's too much work then leave it be. If portugese can get 100% translated then I would hope your language could. Otherwise just leave it be, we're not halting anything.
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if job will allow - can try translation on russian
what can i do for translation? where i can join to project?
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Languagefiles can be found at http://pfsense.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/pfSense/usr/local/www/language/
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I am sorry to say so but I don't see any real advantages in translating the webGUI where opposed to "I see a whole bunch of advantages in having proper documentation in English and in 4 or 5 other languages".
You see, the webGUI is big but at the same time compact and easy to read.
It has no BS and ~30% of it is technical English words that are not translatable into any other language.
Can you translate IPSec or PPTP or SNMP?
Of course you can but if you use your own acronyms then it stops making sense, even in your own country.
Now the Docs are a whole different story.
Of course we have got to have proper English Docs that will serve as a standard.
But reading, let's say, 150 pages in English takes a lot longer than 150 pages in your native language even if 5-10% are still those English based acronyms ;).
So I'd say we should let the Devs polish this baby for us and the rest of the community should start working on those Docs.
I speak for myself.
As soon as the English Docs are out I'll start working on translating them to pt_PT, my native language.
And I'll keep those 5-10% of English acronyms in the pt_PT docs because at the end of the day they are universal :).
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There is many reductions who do not need for translation
For example Internet-WEB-SiteFor people who understanding in networks - words LAN WAN IPSec and etc. do not need translate
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my IMHO - all transliterable wordcombination need replace with constant names and in external lang file make list of this words.
Now exchange this lang file - and webGUI replace his DisplayLang -
I am sorry to say so but I don't see any real advantages in translating the webGUI where opposed to "I see a whole bunch of advantages in having proper documentation in English and in 4 or 5 other languages".
You see, the webGUI is big but at the same time compact and easy to read.
It has no BS and ~30% of it is technical English words that are not translatable into any other language.
Can you translate IPSec or PPTP or SNMP?
Of course you can but if you use your own acronyms then it stops making sense, even in your own country.
Now the Docs are a whole different story.
Of course we have got to have proper English Docs that will serve as a standard.
But reading, let's say, 150 pages in English takes a lot longer than 150 pages in your native language even if 5-10% are still those English based acronyms ;).
So I'd say we should let the Devs polish this baby for us and the rest of the community should start working on those Docs.
I speak for myself.
As soon as the English Docs are out I'll start working on translating them to pt_PT, my native language.
And I'll keep those 5-10% of English acronyms in the pt_PT docs because at the end of the day they are universal :).
Just my 0.02€What you are failing to understand is that the normal devs are not really participating in this, this is being done by outside of the normal developers that help that expressed an interest in doing the work. It would be silly for us to turn down anyone wanting to work on pfSense that was not working on it prior.
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Hi people !
My intention in beginning this work of preparation of the pfSense to the support multi-language and the translation of it for the Portuguese of Brazil is accurately to open more options for the project.
That I will not be able to see much difference in words techniques IPSEC, DHCP, etc. but it imagines the messages of you alert, help, commentaries, even though imagines the pfSense in japanese or Chinese and in Russian. When you yourselves it uses the tool, is clearly that not necessary of no translation to understand that the message of alert this informing you that the IP format this incorrect, but when you apply this tool for a person more layperson, the history is another. I want to be part of this project and to continue to contribute in these works of translation and assist in different others of languages.
Thanks !
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freekazoide, we really appreciate your work and will do our best to do good translations. It's not easy (I've started working on german translation already). However, maybe we can find some way to make it a bit easier for the translators but we first need to find the problems with it (though I already found some) and possible solutions.
Keep up the good work :D
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To strengthen hobas comment, I've begun working on german, too (he started from first, me from the last entry so hopefully we will meet in the middle of the file ;) ) and also have some problem parts in mind, but from my end (pun intended), it doesn't look senseless. En contraire. I know many people, who'd like to experiment with that kind of software image, but aren't that good at reading/writing or understanding english good enough. So this will considerably boost their interest :)
Keep up guys, all of you out there!
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What you are failing to understand is that the normal devs are not really participating in this, this is being done by outside of the normal developers that help that expressed an interest in doing the work. It would be silly for us to turn down anyone wanting to work on pfSense that was not working on it prior.
Who said I failed to understand that the core of the DevTeam are not going to participate on the Documentation or on the webGUI translations?
I'll quote myself.
@rds_correia:So I'd say we should let the Devs polish this baby for us and the rest of the community should start working on those Docs.
Baby=pfSense 1.0Final
Rest of the community=non-Dev community
I don't see any real advantages in translating the webGUI.
Even because we haven't even reached 1.0 yet.
And I hope it won't enlarge the size of the downloadable images too much.
But if someone wants do it and the Devs don't see a problem, I don't see how my humble opinion would matter much.
I just hope that in 3.0 or 4.0 we don't need to download a DVD instead of 30MB because I hate it when something as sexy as pfS gets bloated ;).
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These features will not show up in 1.0. And it only added about 500K.
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These features will not show up in 1.0. And it only added about 500K.
500K here, 500K there…you know what I mean.
I've seen it happen with too many great projects and I'd hate to see the same happening with pfS.
And yet, I can't see a much of an advantage of having the webGUI translated.
I see pfS as a high-end product targeted for routing tech guys or at least some very experienced power users.
This kind of people can read English 95% of the time ::).
But if I can't beat you guys, I'd better join you.
Right now I'm more interested in Docs but after that I will focus my attention in translating the webGUI to pt_PT :lol:.
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Hi,
At the moment I have translated and located to Spanish 60% of the texts. I'm using Poedit.
But the question is: when I have finished the translation from the file to Spanish, where should I go up it?
Is there somebody that I can help with the translation to Spanish? There is many excessively complex sentences, and the file to translate has a lot of work. I take many days being devoted to it.
The current state of the localization to Spanish is here: http://www.seguridad0.com/ejemplos/messages_spanish.po
Regards,
CARLOS MESA
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Hi all
I started today the french translation of webgui. It is 20% finished now.
I'll post again when the work is done, hopefully next week.
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Keep in mind that translations will be a feature of the next version of pfSense which is not yet even half complete. So even if you have finished everything that is presented now by the end of next week there will be lot of improvement/change until the next version is finished. Just keep that in mind ;)
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no problem hoba, this will just be a base. I know that the road to 1.1 is a long one ;)
