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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      And what part do you not understand about this???

      WARNING: potential route subnet conflict between **local LAN [192.168.1.0[/b]/255.255.255.0] and **remote VPN [192.168.1.0[/b]/255.255.255.0]

      Your networks on both sides are the SAME!!!!  NOT going to work!!

      You have

      192.168.1.0/24 –- tunnel --- 192.168.1.0/24

      Does not work like that..  Even if client that is directly connected to the tunnel sends his traffic down the tunnel.  And a client on the vpn side sees the traffic - its going to be from a 192.168.1.0 address, never going to send it back to pfsense because that is the vpn boxes LOCAL network, no need to talk to pfsense.

      You need this

      192.168.A.0/24 –- tunnel --- 192.168.B.0/24

      You can not have the same network on both sides of a tunnel and expect it to work without doing some fancy NATing of the connection..  If your remote network is 192.168.1.0, make your local network 192.168.72.0/24 or something - that is unlikely to be used anywhere that would be remote into your network.****

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        Hmm also, so your pfsense box default gateway for clients on vpn side?  If so then road warrior that uses the tunnel IP as its source should be able to talk to clients on the vpn side even with a dupe IP.

        Site to site would be a major issue! But if the box on the vpn side is not using pfsense as default gateway - then again your not going to be able to talk..

        So I notice you point dns to 192.168.1.1, but in your address bar your access pfsense at 192.168.1.254..  So this box your trying to talk to at 192.168.1.1 in your traceroute - is his default gateway off 192.168.1.0/24 the pfsense box at 192.168.1.254?

        What is this 192.168.1.1 box?  What is his default gateway?

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          LeCygne
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          @johnpoz:

          Hmm also, so your pfsense box default gateway for clients on vpn side?  If so then road warrior that uses the tunnel IP as its source should be able to talk to clients on the vpn side even with a dupe IP.

          Site to site would be a major issue! But if the box on the vpn side is not using pfsense as default gateway - then again your not going to be able to talk..

          So I notice you point dns to 192.168.1.1, but in your address bar your access pfsense at 192.168.1.254..  So this box your trying to talk to at 192.168.1.1 in your traceroute - is his default gateway off 192.168.1.0/24 the pfsense box at 192.168.1.254?

          What is this 192.168.1.1 box?  What is his default gateway?

          Look

          my remote network (my office) 192.168.1.0/24
          DNS,DHCP server                    192.168.1.1
          Default gateway                      192.168.1.254 (pfsense box)

          Tunnel network (as you saw before) 192.168.1.200.0/24

          my local network (my house) 192.168.10.0/24
          DNS,DHCP server                192.168.10.1
          Default gateway                  192.168.10.1 (a gateway , there is no a pfsense box)

          with that settings should be able to see all devices on the remote network ? (because i will try them tonight )

          thank you

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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            Yes there should be no reason why you can not access stuff on the remote network, unless they are running host firewalls?

            If youh have problems, please show your connection info and route print.  And traceroute

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              LeCygne
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              @johnpoz:

              Yes there should be no reason why you can not access stuff on the remote network, unless they are running host firewalls?

              If youh have problems, please show your connection info and route print.  And traceroute

              Okay as i told you i will try them…thank you man .

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                LeCygne
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                Hi…also nothing happen and as usual i could ping only pfsense box and i could't see any device on the remote network...(i forget to what you said to me about print route command but tonight i will post it here)

                but i want to ask you : what rules need i to and on which will i apply them (WAN,LAN,vpnServer) ?

                thank you .

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  You shouldn't need any special rules - so unless you have changed the defaults your fine..  Did you run the openvpn wizard so it created your openvpn rules… here are my rules.

                  Now I did open up my lan rule to have * source vs lan net, but I don't think you really need to do that..  I had that as test I think for something else.  While at work today I will change that and verify access to lan, etc.

                  And you would need Wan rule to allow your openvpn connection - but your stating that your connecting, so I have to assume you have that rule in place or you would never connect.

                  To be honest, you run the wizard for the openvpn and put in the info and your done!  You should not be having so many problems.

                  rulesopenvpn.png
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                    Hi…i could ping only linux machines (from my house) but i could't see them (i mean : start logo,computer,network,here there is no any device a printer a server...etc,only my machine .)

                    and (from my office) i could ping that machine on my network (my house) from only linux machines

                    and please take a look below :

                    from my house,the output of the route print command :

                    
                    Interface List
                     25...00 ff 49 eb 71 95 ......TAP-Win32 Adapter V9
                     23...00 ff a6 3a 86 34 ......Anchorfree HSS VPN Adapter
                     10...00 1e 90 c6 30 64 ......VIA Rhine II Compatible Fast Ethernet Adapter
                      1...........................Software Loopback Interface 1
                     21...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
                     26...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
                     14...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #4
                     11...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
                     12...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #2
                     13...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #3
                     15...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #5
                     24...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
                     16...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft 6to4 Adapter #6
                     20...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
                    ===========================================================================
                    
                    IPv4 Route Table
                    ===========================================================================
                    Active Routes:
                    Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface  Metric
                              0.0.0.0          0.0.0.0     192.168.10.1     192.168.10.6     20
                            127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
                            127.0.0.1  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
                      127.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
                          192.168.1.0    255.255.255.0    192.168.200.5    192.168.200.6     30
                         192.168.10.0    255.255.255.0         On-link      192.168.10.6    276
                         192.168.10.6  255.255.255.255         On-link      192.168.10.6    276
                       192.168.10.255  255.255.255.255         On-link      192.168.10.6    276
                        192.168.200.1  255.255.255.255    192.168.200.5    192.168.200.6     30
                        192.168.200.4  255.255.255.252         On-link     192.168.200.6    286
                        192.168.200.6  255.255.255.255         On-link     192.168.200.6    286
                        192.168.200.7  255.255.255.255         On-link     192.168.200.6    286
                            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
                            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link      192.168.10.6    276
                            224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0         On-link     192.168.200.6    286
                      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link         127.0.0.1    306
                      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link      192.168.10.6    276
                      255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255         On-link     192.168.200.6    286
                    ===========================================================================
                    Persistent Routes:
                      None
                    
                    IPv6 Route Table
                    ===========================================================================
                    Active Routes:
                     If Metric Network Destination      Gateway
                     21     58 ::/0                     On-link
                      1    306 ::1/128                  On-link
                     21     58 2001::/32                On-link
                     21    306 2001:0:9d38:6ab8:8:296d:3f57:f5f9/128
                                                        On-link
                     10    276 fe80::/64                On-link
                     25    286 fe80::/64                On-link
                     21    306 fe80::/64                On-link
                     21    306 fe80::8:296d:3f57:f5f9/128
                                                        On-link
                     10    276 fe80::1c4a:a172:f43c:76d0/128
                                                        On-link
                     25    286 fe80::f4a3:af91:392b:4309/128
                                                        On-link
                      1    306 ff00::/8                 On-link
                     21    306 ff00::/8                 On-link
                     10    276 ff00::/8                 On-link
                     25    286 ff00::/8                 On-link
                    ===========================================================================
                    Persistent Routes:
                      None
                    
                    

                    the output of the tracert command (also from my house):

                    
                    Tracing route to RAAFAT-780 [192.168.1.30]
                    over a maximum of 30 hops:
                    
                      1    54 ms    55 ms    54 ms  192.168.200.1
                      2    56 ms    56 ms    54 ms  RAAFAT-780 [192.168.1.30]
                    
                    Trace complete.
                    

                    Please note my machine (my house) could know the name of my (linux) machine (my office) RAAFAT-780

                    finally,the log of openVPN:

                    
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:05 2013 OpenVPN 2.2.1 Win32-MSVC++ [SSL] [LZO2] built on Jul  1 2011
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:12 2013 WARNING: Make sure you understand the semantics of --tls-remote before using it (see the man page).
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:12 2013 NOTE: OpenVPN 2.1 requires '--script-security 2' or higher to call user-defined scripts or executables
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:12 2013 Control Channel Authentication: using 'pfsense-udp-1195-internal-ca-tls.key' as a OpenVPN static key file
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:12 2013 LZO compression initialized
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:12 2013 UDPv4 link local (bound): [undef]:1194
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:12 2013 UDPv4 link remote: 37.x.x.x:1195
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:12 2013 WARNING: this configuration may cache passwords in memory -- use the auth-nocache option to prevent this
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:14 2013 [internal-ca] Peer Connection Initiated with 37.x.x.x:1195
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:16 2013 TAP-WIN32 device [Local Area Connection 4] opened: \\.\Global\{49EB7195-A813-4005-B4D6-943F98EA8734}.tap
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:16 2013 Notified TAP-Win32 driver to set a DHCP IP/netmask of 192.168.200.6/255.255.255.252 on interface {49EB7195-A813-4005-B4D6-943F98EA8734} [DHCP-serv: 192.168.200.5, lease-time: 31536000]
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:16 2013 Successful ARP Flush on interface [25] {49EB7195-A813-4005-B4D6-943F98EA8734}
                    Fri Feb 22 15:07:21 2013 Initialization Sequence Completed
                    
                    

                    thank you .

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      "but i could't see them "

                      And when do you think linux machines are going to show up in a windows browse list??  Are the running samba and participating in that nonsense?

                      If you can ping 1 machine on your work network from your vpn client, then you have access to the network - other machine not resolving or not answering ping is unlikely to have anything to do with the vpn connection.. More like firewall blocking it at the host or maybe its OFF? ;)  As to resolving via host name only, your not pointing at pfsense for dns - so what does that IP your pointing to for dns run.  Query it directly for hosts you want resolve?  Do they resolve?

                      If you want  boxes to show up in windows browse list across segments then your going to have to run wins!  And even if on same network – it can take 45 minutes for a browselist to populate..

                      I would suggest you read up on how windows browselist work -- and again they have NOTHING to do with network access, file sharing or name resolution - NOTHING!  Its a BS little list that is not real time, is not very stable and does not work across network segments, etc. etc..

                      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5590
                      Windows Computer Browsing for SOHO Networks with Microsoft Windows

                      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21205
                      Troubleshooting Computer Browsing on SOHO Networks with Microsoft Windows

                      Pfsense and openvpn have nothing to do with this - and your not pointing to pfsense for your name resolution for your vpn clients, so it has nothing to do with that.

                      You can ping a machine across your vpn connection - therefore your vpn is UP!!  There is NO point to the browselist in the first place, use name resolution to resolve your computer names be it dns, wins or broadcast which is not going to work in your current setup.  You don't know the names of the machines you need to access?  Then what the hell your accessing the network in the first place for??

                      But sure if you want to get the browselist to work across segments then your going to have to run wins, and understand how it works.  Good luck, its a pointless endeavor ;)

                      If you wanted the network browse list to work, you would have to create a bridged vpn where your road warrior got an IP on your lan and then browselist would work.. But it would most likely take at min 15 minutes to start to show anything, upwards of 45 minutes.  I would assume your box thinks its the master browser for the segment it came up on, and whatever your workgroup name is.

                      Why do you think you need or even want a browselist?  Now what you can do it query your work networks browse master for a list.

                      So for example using browstat, don't believe it will work on 7x64.  You can do a browstat dumpnet and get your transports, one would be your vpn device, then you use that to query the browselist on your work network...

                      D:\Dropbox\tools>browstat dumpnet

                      List of transports currently bound to the browser

                      1 \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{46B7FF42-B5F2-44F2-9EAE-1F0BAF7B4932}
                          2 \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{791A8563-34BD-4681-A0F6-281494D295C8}

                      You can see which one it would be by mac, so I have highlighted the mac portions

                      Ethernet adapter ovpn:

                      Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : local.lan
                             Description . . . . . . . . . . . : TAP-Win32 Adapter V9
                             Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FF-79-1A-85-63

                      D:\Dropbox\tools>browstat view 2 \storage
                      Remoting NetServerEnum to \storage on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{791A8563-34BD-4681-A0F6-281494D295C8} with flags ffffffff
                      4 entries returned.  4 total. 4094 milliseconds

                      \I5-W7             NT   06.01 (W,S,PQ,NT)
                      \KIM-PC            NT   06.01 (W,S,NT)
                      \STORAGE           NT   06.01 (W,S,NT,SS,PBR,BBR,MBR)    My storage server
                      \W7X64-VM          NT   06.01 (W,S,NT)

                      Those are the 4 boxes on in my home network that are participating in the browselist.  No its not listing my linux boxes, they don't have samba installed - no its not listing pfsense, etc. etc.

                      I know that \storage is my browse master, since I have setup my network that way.  Not really a fan of the browselist, just don't see the point of it.  But there is always a way to skin the cat..  Just not seeing why it matter if you can browse your remote network?

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                        LeCygne
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                        But why i can't ping any windows machine ? (only linux machine)

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                          LeCygne
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                          Also i can't ping my printers , only linux machines .

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                            Do you printers have a gateway set?  Most likely not would be my bet.  The windows 7 firewall by default blocks ping would be my bet as well.  Kind of hard to answer a ping that is from a different network without a gateway.

                            If you can ping 1 box on your network, then clearly your vpn is up.  What settings to you have on your windows firewall.  Can you ping your windows 7 boxes from other machine on the local network?  If so check that their firewalls allow ping from networks other than the local one.

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                              LeCygne
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                              @johnpoz:

                              Do you printers have a gateway set?  Most likely not would be my bet.  The windows 7 firewall by default blocks ping would be my bet as well.  Kind of hard to answer a ping that is from a different network without a gateway.

                              If you can ping 1 box on your network, then clearly your vpn is up.  What settings to you have on your windows firewall.  Can you ping your windows 7 boxes from other machine on the local network?  If so check that their firewalls allow ping from networks other than the local one.

                              Look my machines firewall is disable but there is a kaspersky program.

                              Yes i can ping windows machines from other .

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                Well check it for firewall – what part do you not understand that your tunnel is up.. Why would pfsense allow traffic from linux boxes but not windows boxes?

                                So if you can ping 1 box inside your network, and others don't respond - then its something on those machines.

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                                  LeCygne
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                                  @johnpoz:

                                  Well check it for firewall – what part do you not understand that your tunnel is up.. Why would pfsense allow traffic from linux boxes but not windows boxes?

                                  So if you can ping 1 box inside your network, and others don't respond - then its something on those machines.

                                  Yes i know my vpn is up , but how can i solve that problem with windows machines ?

                                  until now nothing happened with windows machines

                                  Also i disabled windows's firewall  , but also no luck .

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    Set their firewalls to allow whatever traffic you want to use from your tunnel network.

                                    Disable whatever firewall your running on those boxes.

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                                      LeCygne
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                                      @johnpoz:

                                      Set their firewalls to allow whatever traffic you want to use from your tunnel network.

                                      Disable whatever firewall your running on those boxes.

                                      i will remove kaspersky…is that helpful ?

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        I don't know - is it, is that is what is firewalling your traffic?

                                        I am not sure why the thread is still open?  You have verified your tunnel is working..  So now your issue is with clients, that has nothing to do with pfsense.

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                                          LeCygne
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                                          @johnpoz:

                                          I don't know - is it, is that is what is firewalling your traffic?

                                          I am not sure why the thread is still open?  You have verified your tunnel is working..  So now your issue is with clients, that has nothing to do with pfsense.

                                          Look man this is the last step of my story…don't tell me to close this thread right ?i'm still looking for a solution for my problem your solution is not complete...

                                          thank you .

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                            I can not help you without info!!  Did you uninstall your firewall software on the client?  Did you configure said software to allow for the traffic you want to allow icmp, file sharing from IPs other than your local network?

                                            Do these clients use pfsense as their gateway?

                                            You clearly have a working vpn tunnel if you can access linux boxes behind your pfsense..  So my point is this is no longer a VPN issue but a client configuration issue..  This board is more for helping users with pfsense related issues - your issue is client related.

                                            While I don't mind helping you, not much I can do further.  Do I need to step you through verification that the packets are getting to your client via sniffing the traffic?

                                            Tell you what – if you provide me vpn access to your network and login to pfsense box.  And then out of bound access to a windows client I will fix the problem for you.  Teamviewer works nice as an out of band solution.  I will document what was the issue and show you the fix, etc.  That would be must faster than us going round and round in this thread, not getting anywhere. If there is some other issue at play, I should be able to identify the problem within a few minutes.

                                            But since you can access linux based boxes on that side of the tunnel - it really really points to a problem on the client box on your pfsense side of the network.

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