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      wallabybob
      last edited by

      The run0 'invalid interface name' is what I would expect if the firmware isn't loaded at boot time.

      @firefox:

      Diagnostics -> Edit File
      where do i do it ?

      I have never used it but I would expect you type the line```
      runfw_load="YES"

      
      > /boot/loader.conf.local
      
      in the _Save / Load from path:_ box then click _Save_.
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        firefox
        last edited by

        The first thing worked
        Once I made what you said in the box
        The computer automatically recognize the wireless card
        And directly reached cli interface with 14 options

        After that I did all the steps again, of your previous message

        Here is what I think you need to do.

        1. Change interface type of the WiFi interface to None (so it doesn't have an IP address).

        2. Set the system tunables as described in step 3 of the post at http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,56298.0.html

        Hereafter, if you are prompted to Save (update configuration file) and then Apply (to running system) click just Save but not Apply. You will reboot at the end to Apply all changes at once.

        3. On Interfaces -> (assign) click the "+" at the bottom right to add a new interface to pfSense. Note the name of the new interface, I'll assume it will be OPT3. In the following description change OPT3 to whatever name was asigned.

        4. On Interfaces -> (assign) click on the Bridges tab, then click on the e button to the right of bridge0 so you can change the bridge members to OPT3 and WLAN.

        5. On Interfaces -> (assign) use the pull downs to change OPT3 to fxp1 (your previous LAN interface) and change the LAN interface from fxp1 to bridge0.

        6. Reboot and verify things are working correctly.

        After reboot you should have fxp1 and run0 as members of bridge0, bridge0 as LAN (so LAN characteristics including firewall rules apply identically to bridge members) and traffic should flow freely between devices on the two interfaces.

        But it still does not work
        There reception
        I can find the network with a laptop or cell phone
        But they do not get ip

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          wallabybob
          last edited by

          The counter on pfSense dashboard reports 0 bytes received on the WLAN interface.  You could use those counters to verify pfSense is seeing something (possibly DHCP requests) from WLAN clients.

          On my run device I have set WPA Pairwise to AES because a Linux client wouldn't connect when it was set to TKIP. But I have no idea if that would fix your problem. You might have to disable/enable the WLAN interface to get configuration changes to take effect.

          The Status -> Wireless page should also be consulted to see if pfSense has associated with your client. I am not sure exactly what "associated" means but it is a significant step in getting wireless station to communicate.

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            firefox
            last edited by

            There's something I do not understand

            After making all settings
            Opt3 interface should be with the ip

            Lan interface
            Should be listed bridge0

            Perhaps this is the problem

            Thanks again for the help

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              firefox
              last edited by

              On my run device I have set WPA Pairwise to AES because a Linux client wouldn't connect when it was set to TKIP

              it worked
              i have access to the internet and lan

              But now there is another problem
              The system does boot after 30 seconds wireless connection

              this is the error log

              Crash report begins.  Anonymous machine information:

              i386
              8.1-RELEASE-p13
              FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p13 #1: Fri Dec  7 16:55:26 EST 2012    root@snapshots-8_1-i386.builders.pfsense.org:/usr/obj./usr/pfSensesrc/src/sys/pfSense_SMP.8

              Crash report details:

              Filename: /var/crash/bounds
              1

              Filename: /var/crash/info.0
              Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b
                Architecture: i386
                Architecture Version: 1
                Dump Length: 71168B (0 MB)
                Blocksize: 512
                Dumptime: Fri Feb 22 15:44:06 2013
                Hostname: pfsense.firefox.co.il
                Magic: FreeBSD Text Dump
                Version String: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p13 #1: Fri Dec  7 16:55:26 EST 2012
                  root@snapshots-8_1-i386.builders.pfsense.org:/usr/obj./usr/pfSensesrc/src/sys/pfSense_SMP.8
                Panic String:
                Dump Parity: 632959541
                Bounds: 0
                Dump Status: good

              Filename: /var/crash/textdump.tar.0
              ddb.txt���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������0600����0�������0�������140000������12111711106�  7061� �����������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������ustar���root����������������������������wheel������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������db:0:kdb.enter.default>  run lockinfo
              db:1:lockinfo> show locks
              No such command
              db:1:locks>  show alllocks
              No such command
              db:1:alllocks>  show lockedvnods
              Locked vnodes
              db:0:kdb.enter.default>  show pcpu
              cpuid        = 0
              dynamic pcpu    = 0x51d080
              curthread    = 0xc499bc80: pid 0 "run0 taskq"
              curpcb      = 0xeab3ad90
              fpcurthread  = none
              idlethread  = 0xc4590a00: pid 11 "idle: cpu0"
              APIC ID      = 0
              currentldt  = 0x50
              db:0:kdb.enter.default>  bt
              Tracing pid 0 tid 64063 td 0xc499bc80
              run_drain_fifo(c49cb000,c499bc80,0,0,0,…) at run_drain_fifo+0x5f
              run_ratectl_cb(c49cb000,1,0,c12d0b3c,0,...) at run_ratectl_cb+0x5c
              taskqueue_run(c486bb80,c486bb98,0,c0ede918,0,...) at taskqueue_run+0x89
              taskqueue_thread_loop(c49d7074,eab3ad38,0,0,0,...) at taskqueue_thread_loop+0x45
              fork_exit(c0a7a1a0,c49d7074,eab3ad38) at fork_exit+0x88
              fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
              --- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xeab3ad70, ebp = 0 ---
              db:0:kdb.enter.default>  ps
                pid  ppid  pgrp  uid  state  wmesg    wchan    cmd
              25445 35603    25    0  S      nanslp  0xc133ea24 sleep
              23430 15132  249    0  S      nanslp  0xc133ea24 sleep
              56580 10101 10101    0  S      piperd  0xc4a04000 rrdtool
                416    1  416    0  Ss      select  0xc4eabb64 ntpd
              15132    1  249    0  S      wait    0xc4e74aa0 sh
              10101    1 10101    0  Ss      select  0xc4991da4 apinger
              43049 41818 43049    0  S+      ttyin    0xc45e1c70 sh
              41818 41595 41818    0  S+      wait    0xc4e74d48 sh
              41612 13725 41612    0  Ss      (threaded)          sshlockout_pf
              64110                  S      nanslp  0xc133ea24 sshlockout_pf
              64103                  S      piperd  0xc4e4c188 initial thread
              41595    1 41595    0  Ss+    wait    0xc4e74550 login
              40746 40685 40200    62  S      piperd  0xc4a04dc8 unlinkd
              40685 40200 40200    62  S      select  0xc4c71424 initial thread
              40200    1 40200    62  Ss      wait    0xc4c6dd48 squid
              37712 37202 37202    0  S      nanslp  0xc133ea24 minicron
              37202    1 37202    0  Ss      wait    0xc4c6c000 minicron
              37001 36453 36453    0  S      nanslp  0xc133ea24 minicron
              36453    1 36453    0  Ss      wait    0xc4c6caa0 minicron
              36220 35882 35882    0  S      nanslp  0xc133ea24 minicron
              35882    1 35882    0  Ss      wait    0xc4c6c550 minicron
              35603    1    25    0  S+      wait    0xc4af1d48 sh
              41984    1 41984    0  Ss      nanslp  0xc133ea24 cron
              31258    1 31233 65534  S      select  0xc4c70724 dnsmasq
              30007    1 30007  1002  Ss      select  0xc4c70c24 dhcpd
              22980 21308 21248    0  S      accept  0xc4afb03e initial thread
              21602 21308 21248    0  S      accept  0xc4b5f6ae initial thread
              21308    1 21248    0  S      kqread  0xc4ac8600 lighttpd
              14375    1 14375    0  Ss      select  0xc486b8e4 inetd
              13725    1 13725    0  Ss      select  0xc4991b24 syslogd
              13419    1    25    0  S+      piperd  0xc4a03dc8 logger
              13379    1    25    0  S+      bpf      0xc4995900 tcpdump
              9468    1  9468    0  Ss      select  0xc49fede4 hostapd
              6414    1  6414    0  Ss      (threaded)          mpd5
              64085                  S      select  0xc49fe7e4 mpd5
                264    1  264    0  Ss      select  0xc4990024 devd
                251  249  249    0  S      kqread  0xc4a01d00 check_reload_status
                249    1  249    0  Ss      kqread  0xc4a01b80 check_reload_status
                40    0    0    0  SL      mdwait  0xc49af000 [md0]
                24    0    0    0  SL      sdflush  0xc136d480 [softdepflush]
                23    0    0    0  SL      syncer  0xc1352594 [syncer]
                22    0    0    0  SL      vlruwt  0xc45d5d48 [vnlru]
                21    0    0    0  SL      psleep  0xc13522c8 [bufdaemon]
                20    0    0    0  SL      pgzero  0xc136e134 [pagezero]
                19    0    0    0  SL      pollid  0xc133df7c [idlepoll]
                18    0    0    0  SL      psleep  0xc136dd5c [vmdaemon]
                17    0    0    0  SL      psleep  0xc136dd24 [pagedaemon]
                  9    0    0    0  SL      ccb_scan 0xc1308c54 [xpt_thrd]
                  8    0    0    0  SL      pftm    0xc04f7020 [pfpurge]
                  7    0    0    0  SL      waiting_ 0xc13599d8 [sctp_iterator]
                16    0    0    0  SL      tzpoll  0xc130da8c [acpi_thermal]
                15    0    0    0  SL      (threaded)          usb
              64045                  D      -        0xc4725d0c [usbus3]
              64044                  D      -        0xc4725cdc [usbus3]
              64043                  D      -        0xc4725cac [usbus3]
              64042                  D      -        0xc4725c7c [usbus3]
              64040                  D      -        0xc4711dac [usbus2]
              64039                  D      -        0xc4711d7c [usbus2]
              64038                  D      -        0xc4711d4c [usbus2]
              64037                  D      -        0xc4711d1c [usbus2]
              64035                  D      -        0xc46fadac [usbus1]
              64034                  D      -        0xc46fad7c [usbus1]
              64033                  D      -        0xc46fad4c [usbus1]
              64032                  D      -        0xc46fad1c [usbus1]
              64030                  D      -        0xc46e5dac [usbus0]
              64029                  D      -        0xc46e5d7c [usbus0]
              64028                  D      -        0xc46e5d4c [usbus0]
              64027                  D      -        0xc46e5d1c [usbus0]
                14    0    0    0  SL      -        0xc133e884 [yarrow]
                  6    0    0    0  SL      crypto_r 0xc136caac [crypto returns]
                  5    0    0    0  SL      crypto_w 0xc136ca88 [crypto]
                  4    0    0    0  SL      -        0xc133c124 [g_down]
                  3    0    0    0  SL      -        0xc133c120 [g_up]
                  2    0    0    0  SL      -        0xc133c118 [g_event]
                13    0    0    0  SL      sleep    0xc12df260 [ng_queue0]
                12    0    0    0  RL      (threaded)          intr
              64051                  I                          [irq1: atkbd0]
              64049                  I                          [irq15: ata1]
              64048                  I                          [irq14: ata0]
              64047                  I                          [irq22: dc0]
              64046                  I                          [irq20: fxp0 fxp1]
              64041                  I                          [irq23: ehci0]
              64036                  I                          [irq18: uhci2]
              64031                  I                          [irq19: uhci1]
              64026                  I                          [irq16: uhci0]
              64025                  I                          [irq9: acpi0]
              64021                  I                          [swi2: cambio]
              64020                  I                          [swi6: task queue]
              64019                  I                          [swi6: Giant taskq]
              64017                  I                          [swi5: +]
              64007                  I                          [swi3: vm]
              64006                  RunQ                        [swi4: clock]
              64005                  I                          [swi1: netisr 0]
                11    0    0    0  RL                          [idle: cpu0]
                  1    0    1    0  SLs    wait    0xc458ed48 [init]
                10    0    0    0  SL      audit_wo 0xc136ce20 [audit]
                  0    0    0    0  RLs    (threaded)          kernel
              64063                  Run    CPU 0              [run0 taskq]
              64024                  D      -        0xc46a0280 [acpi_task_2]
              64023                  D      -        0xc46a0280 [acpi_task_1]
              64022                  D      -        0xc46a0280 [acpi_task_0]
              64018                  D      -        0xc46a04c0

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                firefox
                last edited by

                Well
                After the advice that wallabybob Gave

                Finally the wireless devices connected and received ip

                So this issue is resolved

                Many thanks for the help

                There is another problem

                After a period of time where there are wireless connections
                The system is down and up again

                I searched for it here in the forums and in Google

                From what I understand it's a problem of encryption
                I tried to change the encryption settings
                And raised the amount of time the devices are connected

                Max is an hour maybe a little more
                System still falls and rises again

                Is there anything else other than encryption ?

                Should I write that the problem has been fixed in this Thread
                And open a new Thread to the new problem?

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                  wallabybob
                  last edited by

                  @firefox:

                  After a period of time where there are wireless connections
                  The system is down and up again

                  Do you mean the system crashes and restarts?

                  @firefox:

                  Should I write that the problem has been fixed in this Thread
                  And open a new Thread to the new problem?

                  Yes, its a distinct problem. I suggest you create a new topic in the Wireless forum and post as full a description of the problem as you can including pfSense build and the output of pfSense shell command```
                  /etc/rc.banner
                  ifconfig

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                    firefox
                    last edited by

                    Where to write it ?

                    /etc/rc.banner
                    ifconfig
                    
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                      wallabybob
                      last edited by

                      SSH to your pfSense, login as admin, select option 8 to get shell prompt then type in the commands and post the commands and responses in your topic OR in the pfSense web GUI go to Diagnostics -> Command Prompt and for each command in turn, type the command in the Command box and click on the Execute button immediately below.

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                        firefox
                        last edited by

                        I wrote

                        I did it twice
                        First time
                        Wireless interface was not enabled

                        The second time the wireless interface was enabled

                        fxp0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	options=9 <rxcsum,vlan_mtu>ether 00:09:6b:d1:03:04
                        	inet6 fe80::209:6bff:fed1:304%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
                        	status: active
                        dc0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	options=80008 <vlan_mtu,linkstate>ether 00:80:ad:73:b7:fe
                        	inet6 fe80::280:adff:fe73:b7fe%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
                        	status: no carrier
                        fxp1: flags=8943 <up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	options=2008 <vlan_mtu,wol_magic>ether 00:02:b3:0b:ab:2e
                        	inet6 fe80::202:b3ff:fe0b:ab2e%fxp1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
                        	status: active
                        pflog0: flags=100 <promisc>metric 0 mtu 33200
                        enc0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1536
                        lo0: flags=8049 <up,loopback,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 16384
                        	options=3 <rxcsum,txcsum>inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 
                        	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 
                        	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1460
                        	syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 syncok: 1
                        run0: flags=8902 <broadcast,promisc,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 2290
                        	ether 54:e6:fc:93:bf:57
                        	media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect <hostap>(autoselect <hostap>)
                        	status: no carrier
                        pppoe0: flags=88d1 <up,pointopoint,running,noarp,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1492
                        	inet 109.226.48.72 --> 109.226.1.20 netmask 0xffffffff 
                        	inet6 fe80::209:6bff:fed1:304%pppoe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>run0_wlan0: flags=8902 <broadcast,promisc,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	ether 54:e6:fc:93:bf:57
                        	inet6 fe80::56e6:fcff:fe93:bf57%run0_wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g <hostap>status: no carrier
                        	ssid "bla bla bla" channel 2 (2417 MHz 11g)
                        	regdomain NONE country IL authmode AUTO privacy OFF deftxkey 3
                        	AES-CCM 2:128-bit AES-CCM 3:128-bit txpower 30 scanvalid 60 pureg
                        	protmode OFF wme -apbridge dtimperiod 1 -dfs
                        bridge0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	ether 02:11:79:20:3d:00
                        	inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
                        	id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15
                        	maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
                        	root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0
                        	member: fxp1 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 3 priority 128 path cost 200000
                        	member: run0_wlan0 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 10 priority 128 path cost 370370</learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></hostap></performnud,accept_rtadv></broadcast,promisc,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></up,pointopoint,running,noarp,simplex,multicast></hostap></hostap></broadcast,promisc,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></rxcsum,txcsum></up,loopback,running,multicast></promisc></full-duplex></performnud,accept_rtadv></vlan_mtu,wol_magic></up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></vlan_mtu,linkstate></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></full-duplex></performnud,accept_rtadv></rxcsum,vlan_mtu></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
                        

                        And the second time

                        fxp0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	options=9 <rxcsum,vlan_mtu>ether 00:09:6b:d1:03:04
                        	inet6 fe80::209:6bff:fed1:304%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
                        	status: active
                        dc0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	options=80008 <vlan_mtu,linkstate>ether 00:80:ad:73:b7:fe
                        	inet6 fe80::280:adff:fe73:b7fe%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
                        	status: no carrier
                        fxp1: flags=8943 <up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	options=2008 <vlan_mtu,wol_magic>ether 00:02:b3:0b:ab:2e
                        	inet6 fe80::202:b3ff:fe0b:ab2e%fxp1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
                        	status: active
                        pflog0: flags=100 <promisc>metric 0 mtu 33200
                        enc0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1536
                        lo0: flags=8049 <up,loopback,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 16384
                        	options=3 <rxcsum,txcsum>inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 
                        	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 
                        	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1460
                        	syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 syncok: 1
                        run0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 2290
                        	ether 54:e6:fc:93:bf:57
                        	media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g <hostap>status: running
                        pppoe0: flags=88d1 <up,pointopoint,running,noarp,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1492
                        	inet 109.226.48.72 --> 109.226.1.20 netmask 0xffffffff 
                        	inet6 fe80::209:6bff:fed1:304%pppoe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>run0_wlan0: flags=8943 <up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	ether 54:e6:fc:93:bf:57
                        	inet6 fe80::56e6:fcff:fe93:bf57%run0_wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa 
                        	nd6 options=43 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g <hostap>status: running
                        	ssid "bla bla bla" channel 3 (2422 MHz 11g) bssid 54:e6:fc:93:bf:57
                        	regdomain NONE country IL authmode WPA2/802.11i privacy MIXED
                        	deftxkey 2 AES-CCM 2:128-bit txpower 30 scanvalid 60 pureg
                        	protmode OFF wme -apbridge dtimperiod 1 -dfs
                        bridge0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        	ether 02:11:79:20:3d:00
                        	inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
                        	id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15
                        	maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
                        	root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0
                        	member: fxp1 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 3 priority 128 path cost 200000
                        	member: run0_wlan0 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 10 priority 128 path cost 370370</learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></hostap></performnud,accept_rtadv></up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></up,pointopoint,running,noarp,simplex,multicast></hostap></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></rxcsum,txcsum></up,loopback,running,multicast></promisc></full-duplex></performnud,accept_rtadv></vlan_mtu,wol_magic></up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></vlan_mtu,linkstate></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></full-duplex></performnud,accept_rtadv></rxcsum,vlan_mtu></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
                        
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