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      pftdm007
      last edited by

      OK !  Out of nowhere, after I had set my port forwarding and NAT on the pfsense machine, I plugged the ATA in my LAN, it got an IP from pfsense's DHCP server and then after a few minutes, the phone worked..  Not sure why it didnt work the 100 times I tried last week…

      Anyways,

      kejianshi, look at my screenshots to see my config.  DO you spot anything dangerous, out of the ordinary or wrong??

      chpalmer,  my modem is Thomson DCM475.  Apparently, this modem is what they call a plain-Jane modem, no routing functions whatsoever done my the modem.  Its more or less just a device that converts cable signals to Network signals..  Anyways this is what I understand..

      I do have access to the HT502 settings.  They're in the screenshots as well.

      THe HT502 is factory set to get an IP thru DHCO on its WAN port (normally from the service supplier if connected BEFORE the router) but since in my case its connected AFTER the router, its getting an IP from pfsense.  It works perfectly.  As for the LAN port on the HT502, Im not using it (if after router) since I dont need to bridge or NAT throu it to "feed" another device.  That'd be required if the HT502 was placed between my modem & router which is not right now.

      The LAN on pfsense is set to 192.168.0.100 to 110

      Other than that, please ask I will try to find the info or post additional screnshots.

      :)

      NB: I do NOT have access to the HT502's advanced settings page and the FXS Port 1 & 2 since at the moment the ATA is provisioned by the service provider, they block access to these pages...

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        pftdm007
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        Other screenshots

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          pftdm007
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          As I expected, this was too good to be true…

          I was talking on the phone and suddenly, everything died.  Now when I pickup the phone I hear "Device not registered".

          The ATA lost connectivity to the outside.  See screenshot:  Not Registered.

          Looking in pfsense logs:

          Aug 25 13:44:11 	snort[12247]: [122:21:1] (portscan) UDP Filtered Portscan [Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priority: 2] {PROTO:255} 206.248.144.132 -> 192.0.227.200
          Aug 25 13:44:11 	snort[12247]: [122:21:1] (portscan) UDP Filtered Portscan [Classification: Attempted Information Leak] [Priority: 2] {PROTO:255} 206.248.144.132 -> 192.0.227.200
          Aug 25 13:43:55 	snort[35706]: [140:20:1] (spp_sip) Invite replay attack [Classification: Potentially Bad Traffic] [Priority: 2] {UDP} 192.168.0.109:5060 -> 206.248.144.132:5060
          Aug 25 13:43:55 	snort[35706]: [140:20:1] (spp_sip) Invite replay attack [Classification: Potentially Bad Traffic] [Priority: 2] {UDP} 192.168.0.109:5060 -> 206.248.144.132:5060
          Aug 25 13:43:38 	snort[35706]: [140:20:1] (spp_sip) Invite replay attack [Classification: Potentially Bad Traffic] [Priority: 2] {UDP} 192.168.0.109:5060 -> 206.248.144.132:5060
          Aug 25 13:43:38 	snort[35706]: [140:20:1] (spp_sip) Invite replay attack [Classification: Potentially Bad Traffic] [Priority: 2] {UDP} 192.168.0.109:5060 -> 206.248.144.132:5060
          

          Could snort cause issues??  I stopped it and rebooted the ATA.  Will post back ASAP if this helped or not.

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            kejianshi
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            Your device should probably have the "NAT" box checked in its settings and also, I had to change my device to time out every 15 seconds instead of 3600.  Same for UDP time-out.  After that, it stayed registered.  If I set my settings same as yours, I'd be offline also.

            Unless their service will boot you for checking in too often, its better to make those numbers smaller.

            And snort…  Geeze.  Don't get me started on SNORT.

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              pftdm007
              last edited by

              Yep, snort WAS the problem.. I think anyways.  I stopped it, cleared the blocked hosts, rebooted the ATA and bingo! got the phone again!

              I'm not sure of the right way to prevent snort from doing that again…

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                chpalmer
                last edited by

                Registration time is in the locked advanced pages so not an option without help from his voip providers tech support.

                To bypass some filtering issues here I set up a second subnet to run my voip ata's on. Its all great if you have the room to install a third NIC into your box. Otherwise its VLANs and a managed switch…  :P

                Im not sure if Siproxd will bypass snort or not. I only use it to run multiple ata's to multiple external servers. My provider has a production server and a byod server. Plus they are beta testing a cloud based pbx server which I am playing with.

                Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                  pftdm007
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                  To bypass some filtering issues here I set up a second subnet to run my voip ata's on. Its all great if you have the room to install a third NIC into your box. Otherwise its VLANs and a managed switch…  :P

                  Unfortunately, I do not have a second PCI clot on that machine so adding another NIC is impossible.

                  I also intend to virtualize pfsense at some point on a shiny new dual socket server with LOTS of RAM….  Im not sure how will this work but I know for sure it wont have 3 NIC's (I will be able to install several NICs as the server's mobo will have 6 PCI-E slots but will I need to??)

                  Right now, Snort is down.  Unless I know how to make sure it wont block the ATA again, it will remain down.

                  You see this is what Ive done:

                  Create an alias including all my internal IP's and some outside servers I want to keep free access to,
                  Under Snort's config, I went to white-list, added a white-list, and then used the alias I had created

                  I really thought this way snort wouldn't interfere with the hosts listed under this alias..

                  Apparently not.
                  Anybody knows why?

                  I did not have to try Siproxd yet because the ATA works flawlessly with my port forwarding setup and snort down.  If I can clear snort's interference out of the equation, and I have problems again, I will try Siproxd.  I just prefer not to mix too many variables together until I really knows whats going on.

                  That has been my recipe with pfsense…

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                    pftdm007
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                    THings were too good to be true… Until I added a domain in squidguard target categoriues and suddenly the whole router crawled to a stop.. I knew what it was 1000000%

                    See http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,63025.msg357852.html#msg357852

                    Clearly nobody thinks this is a problem.  IMO something is severely broken in pfsense's packages.

                    See the result of ps -A:

                    20 million havp and squidguard processes running anybody think its normal?!

                    $ ps -A
                      PID  TT  STAT      TIME COMMAND
                        0  ??  DLs  177:38.54 [kernel]
                        1  ??  SLs    0:00.05 /sbin/init --
                        2  ??  DL     1:50.16 [g_event]
                        3  ??  RL     4:25.76 [g_up]
                        4  ??  DL     2:53.40 [g_down]
                        5  ??  DL     0:00.00 [crypto]
                        6  ??  DL     0:00.00 [crypto returns]
                        7  ??  DL     0:00.00 [sctp_iterator]
                        8  ??  DL     1:03.50 [pfpurge]
                        9  ??  DL     0:00.00 [xpt_thrd]
                       10  ??  DL     0:00.00 [audit]
                       11  ??  RL   23533:39.71 [idle]
                       12  ??  WL   483:41.74 [intr]
                       13  ??  DL     0:00.00 [ng_queue]
                       14  ??  DL     7:57.60 [yarrow]
                       15  ??  DL     0:42.49 [usb]
                       16  ??  DL     1:39.58 [acpi_thermal]
                       17  ??  DL     0:16.16 [pagedaemon]
                       18  ??  DL     0:00.36 [vmdaemon]
                       19  ??  DL     0:00.04 [pagezero]
                       20  ??  DL     0:03.54 [idlepoll]
                       21  ??  DL     0:17.68 [bufdaemon]
                       22  ??  DL    15:17.22 [syncer]
                       23  ??  DL     0:14.00 [vnlru]
                       24  ??  DL     0:21.51 [softdepflush]
                       40  ??  DL     0:19.84 [md0]
                      245  ??  INs    3:21.70 /usr/local/sbin/check_reload_status
                      247  ??  IWN    0:00.00 check_reload_status: Monitoring daemon of check_reloa
                      257  ??  Is     0:00.02 /sbin/devd
                     2396  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     2715  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     2738  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     2845  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     4907  ??  D      0:09.28 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     5011  ??  D      0:08.78 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     5319  ??  D      0:09.04 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     5396  ??  D      0:09.29 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     5529  ??  Is     0:00.13 /usr/local/sbin/sshlockout_pf 15
                     5736  ??  D      0:08.72 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     6035  ??  Is     0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd
                     6365  ??  D      0:22.03 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     6468  ??  D      0:23.23 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     6515  ??  D      0:21.55 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     6801  ??  Is     0:00.07 dhclient: re0 [priv] (dhclient)
                     6848  ??  D      0:21.44 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     7114  ??  D      0:21.84 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                     8100  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     8230  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     8480  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     8808  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     9023  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     9289  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     9496  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                     9753  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    10724  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    10778  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    10913  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    12344  ??  Ss     0:20.32 dhclient: re0 (dhclient)
                    13208  ??  Ss     0:15.62 /usr/sbin/cron -s
                    16871  ??  Ss     4:33.25 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s -c -c -l /var/dhcpd/var/run/log 
                    17328  ??  D      0:17.47 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    17662  ??  D      0:17.63 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    17685  ??  D      0:17.99 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    17777  ??  D      0:17.64 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    17814  ??  D      0:17.42 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    17934  ??  D      0:33.44 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    18190  ??  D      0:33.49 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    18243  ??  D      0:34.27 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    18529  ??  D      0:32.95 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    18705  ??  D      0:33.19 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    20216  ??  S      0:00.67 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    20557  ??  S      0:00.47 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    20578  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    20768  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    20884  ??  Is     0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/squid -D
                    20949  ??  S      0:00.17 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    21239  ??  S      0:00.27 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    21403  ??  S      0:00.02 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    21675  ??  S      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    21798  ??  I      0:00.30 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    21881  ??  S      0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    22095  ??  Ds   307:46.96 /usr/local/bin/ntop -i re0,re1 -u root -d -4 -M -x 81
                    22142  ??  Is     2:19.13 /usr/local/sbin/filterdns -p /tmp/filterdns.pid -i 30
                    22209  ??  I      0:00.02 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    22304  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    23045  ??  Ds    71:53.62 /usr/local/sbin/clamd -c /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf
                    23741  ??  DL     0:06.21 [md10]
                    24125  ??  Ss     7:37.85 /usr/local/sbin/apinger -c /var/etc/apinger.conf
                    25631  ??  SN     0:00.00 sleep 60
                    25762  ??  R      0:00.01 ps -A
                    28072  ??  S      0:59.81 /usr/local/sbin/lighttpd -f /var/etc/lighty-webConfig
                    28602  ??  IWs    0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/php
                    30096  ??  IWs    0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/php
                    30530  ??  Ss     0:25.95 /usr/local/sbin/dhcpd -user dhcpd -group _dhcp -chroo
                    32419  ??  S      0:06.04 /usr/local/bin/php
                    32731  ??  D      0:50.29 /usr/local/bin/php
                    38698  ??  S      0:01.39 (squid) -D (squid)
                    38859  ??  I      0:00.00 (unlinkd) (unlinkd)
                    39204  ??  I      0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    39339  ??  I      0:00.07 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    39437  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    39503  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    39559  ??  Ss     2:04.82 /usr/local/bin/ntpd -g -c /var/etc/ntpd.conf
                    39682  ??  S      0:00.07 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    39825  ??  S      0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    39965  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    40116  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    40538  ??  S      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    40849  ??  I      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    40980  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    41205  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    42829  ??  I      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    42997  ??  D      0:09.75 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    43100  ??  IWs    0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/minicron 240 /var/run/ping_hosts.pid /
                    43129  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    43158  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    43186  ??  D      0:09.26 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    43229  ??  R      0:11.26 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    43281  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    43530  ??  I      0:01.81 minicron: helper /usr/local/bin/ping_hosts.sh  (minic
                    43541  ??  D      0:09.40 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    43674  ??  S      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    43677  ??  I      0:09.61 /usr/local/bin/rrdtool -
                    43730  ??  D      0:31.64 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    43739  ??  D      0:09.46 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    43767  ??  IWs    0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/minicron 3600 /var/run/expire_accounts
                    43771  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    43823  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    44076  ??  R      0:30.82 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    44086  ??  S      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    44098  ??  I      0:00.10 minicron: helper /etc/rc.expireaccounts  (minicron)
                    44167  ??  IWs    0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/minicron 86400 /var/run/update_alias_u
                    44226  ??  S      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    44348  ??  D      0:30.33 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    44389  ??  S      3:08.20 /usr/local/sbin/dnsmasq --local-ttl 1 --all-servers -
                    44473  ??  D      0:31.46 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    44562  ??  I      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    44594  ??  I      0:00.01 minicron: helper /etc/rc.update_alias_url_data  (mini
                    44657  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    44676  ??  INs    0:00.02 /usr/sbin/inetd -wW -R 0 -a 127.0.0.1 /var/etc/inetd.
                    44736  ??  R      0:32.10 (squidGuard) -c /usr/local/etc/squidGuard/squidGuard.
                    44811  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    44910  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    45068  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    45118  ??  S      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    45263  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    45599  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    45796  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    46069  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    46356  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    46702  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    46944  ??  S      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    47136  ??  S      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    47311  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    47382  ??  S      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    47469  ??  S      0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
                    47705  ??  I      0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/havp -c /usr/local/etc/havp/havp.conf
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                    pfsense is causing me too many issues and headaches.  I think Im gonna find another firewall project or go back to a simple plain Jane router…

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                      doktornotor Banned
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                      @lpallard:

                      pfsense is causing me too many issues and headaches.  I think Im gonna find another firewall project or go back to a simple plain Jane router…

                      Sorry, but installing junk and blaming the OS just makes no sense. HAVP sucks, is broken, is not worth it, is not protecting you in any meaningful way. It uses ClamAV with absolutely pathetic detection rate, yet plagued with loads of false positives, which eats tons of resources, makes downloads suck. Any free AV on a workstation makes couple orders of magnitudes better job here. Installing HAVP, squidguard, snort on the same box? Are you mad?

                      You are causing all this grief to yourself. " simple plain Jane router…" - yeah, that's what you get with vanilla pfS install - before you go on a resource killing spree with all those things mentioned above. They are NOT required. They are NOT needed. They are harmful in most cases. They make you babysit the firewall 24/7.

                      Doctor, it hurts when I do this... Yeah, so don't do that.

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                        chpalmer
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                        my tinkering is causing me too many issues and headaches

                        There- fixed that for you!

                        A plain Jane router is just that. No firewall.  SIP doesn't like NAT. It can be made to work if your patient. Try Vonage. It will work fine. That tells me that there are other underlying factors going on with some SIP providers.

                        DO I really need 3 NIC's???

                        No. You don't.

                        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                          kejianshi
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                          Well - There is routing, which pfsense does very well.

                          Then there is firewalling, which pfsense also does well.

                          Then there are add on packages, which do various other things like clamav and caching squid proxy and those things are neither routing nor are they anthing to do with firewall..

                          And then there are the UTM features of pfsense.  Not know what you are doing WILL break your install.

                          While I don't share the dislike of clamav, I do have a dislike for all AV in general.  They are resource hogs.
                          Better to use OSes that don't require you to run it and just load AV on your play/gaming machines.
                          Probably nobody who doesn't NEED the last 2 sets of features at the router should touch those.

                          Almost no one needs the UTM stuff at home, but if you go there, don't say pfsense is broken.  Some really patient fairly expert people get those features to work just fine.  The key being expert + patient.  Like you really keep an eye on it.

                          These systems are not automatically better the more you add to them.

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                            pftdm007
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                            Geez!  doktornotor calm down !!! ;)

                            While I have shown signs of frustrations, my frustrations really were about the packages not the base platform.  If any of you took 2 seconds to look at my other thread where I EXPLICITELY mentioned that on the base platform I had ZERO problems, but with HAVP, Squid and its crappy guardian, I had issues, you would have understood my POV.

                            I have repeatedly said that I was more than willing to give my time for FREE to help troubleshoot and analyze what the hell is going on with these packages because they're not working well.  Is this not what Opensource projects needs in the end?  Contributors and people helping for FREE?

                            It is not pfsense that frustrates me, it is NOT even the packages so much , its people attitude.

                            You post severe problems you have, you spend the necessary time to document it and write a meaningful thread about it, you explicitly ask developers and other "experts" to at least say a few words, and all you get is:

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                            Which on the 13 replies, 11 are MINE.

                            Thats fine.  I get the point.  pfsense is meant to be alone to work properly, no packages added.  Then I suggest pfsense devs add a big fat warning in the package manager:

                            Warning!  Adding packages may (will) break your pfsense install

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                              doktornotor Banned
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                              This is just funny. You need a rather flaky and sensitive VOIP stuff working behind firewall, and instead of setting things up so that it works and calling it a day, you go, overload your box with extremely intrusive, extremely resource intensive and rather horrible to maintain bloat and come back to vent your frustrations about how broken it is. Seriously. Just do not do that! You are causing this whole trouble to yourself!

                              Now - yeah, snort does NOT work out of the box, never has, never will. And quite frankly my point of view is that it is just pure evil for any home/SOHO environment, not to mention the effort constant babysitting required. (This thing has been dropped from multiple firewall distros for a damn good reason, your rants being a prime example. The mailing lists and forums basically flooded with complaints from people thinking that IDS/IPS/UTM is a musthave, point-and-click, plug and play stuff.) Getting similar intrusive and complicated setups working does not take hours nor days… Do not have time and patience for that? Well, see above, just don't install such things. And regardless, take as a fact that it may just as well never work properly with things like some buggy flaky VOIP device, depending on the device itself, the SIP provider, the ISP, etc. etc. etc.

                              Finally, these issues are nothing pfsense specific. Snort is exact same intrusive and disruptive everywhere else, HAVP (and the ClamAV thing behind it) does not magically become any better, nor does squid/squidguard when run on say Debian or Fedora instead of FreeBSD/pfSense.

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                                kejianshi
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                                I understand your frustrations.  Me, being a relative newbie here get your point.
                                However, the reason the devs and others are not jumping through whoops to reply is because your issues have actually already been talked to death on the forums and they are really busy people.  (I'd guess that anyway)

                                If I were you, I'd run pfsense as vanilla as I could and only add what is needed.
                                I'd say the same for all distros.

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                                  pftdm007
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                                  All right, I get the point.  This is really eye opening and changed the way I see the pfsense project forever.

                                  I still dream that some day, there are some REALLY SOLID packages for pfsense.

                                  I kept tinkering with this because for a long while, I had success with the pfsense - havp - squid - snort - squidguard combination…  Real success.

                                  I still think all of this can be somewhow improved or fixed.

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                                    doktornotor Banned
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                                    As suggested above - these are NOT pfsense-specific issues for the most part. You need to work with upstream to get those sorted out, improved, polished, more usable, less sucky, more shiny, more out-of-the box experience stuff. Those downstream pfSense guys just package the stuff together and ship it (in addition, providing some added value, such at the GUIs.) Unless the issue is one related to the packaging/customized configuration stuff… this won't get solved here.

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