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    Difference between Interface subnet and 192.168.2.0/24

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      doktornotor Banned
      last edited by

      Well, because /30 is not /24  :P

      net30 – Use a point-to-point topology, by allocating one /30 subnet per client.
      subnet -- Use a subnet rather than a point-to-point topology by configuring the tun interface with a local IP address and subnet mask

      Documentation. Also comparing the ifconfig output for both modes should be pretty much enlightening.

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        kejianshi
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        OK - So, your pfsense is a client to a vpn service and then your pfsense is also running an openvpn server to which your laptop/computer is a client while inside your own LAN?  Do I have this wrong?

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          phil.davis
          last edited by

          Look in /tmp/rules.debug - down the end you will see the user rules generated from the Firewall Rules tabs. You will be able to see exactly what rules it generates for OPT3. I suspect it gets a different idea about OPT3 Subnet depending if it is set to topology or not. One way may treat it as a /30 and the other as the full tunnel network range.

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          • panzP
            panz
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            Oh, yes, I understand that. But my question was: why does OPT subnet and 192.168.2.0/24 was not the same?

            I understand this IF topology is net30, so is a peer-to-peer like connection.

            But the previous scheme was ALL /24. Why this doesn't work?

            pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
            motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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              doktornotor Banned
              last edited by

              @panz:

              Oh, yes, I understand that. But my question was: why does OPT subnet and 192.168.2.0/24 was not the same?

              Please, type ifconfig to console. For both modes. Compare the OPT3/ovpns? output.

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              • panzP
                panz
                last edited by

                @kejianshi:

                OK - So, your pfsense is a client to a vpn service and then your pfsense is also running an openvpn server to which your laptop/computer is a client while inside your own LAN?  Do I have this wrong?

                laptop/computer is a client while I'm out (for eg. at a Strabucks coffee).

                pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                  kejianshi
                  last edited by

                  OK - I see.

                  When you VPN into your pfsense from your laptop when you are out does all that traffic then go out over the VPN pfsense is client too?

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                  • panzP
                    panz
                    last edited by

                    @kejianshi:

                    OK - I see.

                    When you VPN into your pfsense from your laptop when you are out does all that traffic then go out over the VPN pfsense is client too?

                    Yes.

                    pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                    motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                      kejianshi
                      last edited by

                      haha - I see where this is going…  Good one.

                      I take it AirVPN doesn't have a bandwidth usage cap?

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                      • panzP
                        panz
                        last edited by

                        @doktornotor:

                        @panz:

                        Oh, yes, I understand that. But my question was: why does OPT subnet and 192.168.2.0/24 was not the same?

                        Please, type ifconfig to console. For both modes. Compare the OPT3/ovpns? output.

                        with net30

                        ovpns2: flags=8051 <up,pointopoint,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        options=80000 <linkstate>inet6 fe80::a00:27ff:fe7f:875d%ovpns2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
                        inet 192.168.2.1 –> 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xffffff00

                        without inet30

                        ovpns2: flags=8051 <up,pointopoint,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                        options=80000 <linkstate>inet6 fe80::a00:27ff:fe7f:875d%ovpns2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
                        inet 192.168.2.1 --> 192.168.2.2 netmask 0xffffffff
                        nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>Opened by PID 15822</performnud,accept_rtadv></linkstate></up,pointopoint,running,multicast></linkstate></up,pointopoint,running,multicast>

                        pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                        motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                        • panzP
                          panz
                          last edited by

                          @kejianshi:

                          haha - I see where this is going…  Good one.

                          I take it AirVPN doesn't have a bandwidth usage cap?

                          no limitations as I know

                          pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                          motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                            doktornotor Banned
                            last edited by

                            Yeah. So, see:

                            netmask 0xffffffff = /32 (really just the OVPN IP itself, does not include any client, 192.168.2.6 certainly out)
                            netmask 0xffffff00 = /24 (the configured subnet)

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                            • panzP
                              panz
                              last edited by

                              @doktornotor:

                              Yeah. So, see:

                              netmask 0xffffffff = /32 (really just the OVPN IP itself, does not include any client, 192.168.2.6 certainly out)
                              netmask 0xffffff00 = /24 (the configured subnet)

                              why  inet 192.168.2.1 –> 192.168.2.1

                              pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                              motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                                doktornotor Banned
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                                @panz:

                                why  inet 192.168.2.1 –> 192.168.2.1

                                What's your problem with that, again? The question has been answered already. The tunnel endpoints are the same there.

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                                  kejianshi
                                  last edited by

                                  So, anyway - I've not been running pfsense this way before.  I've only done this with a DD-WRT as client to Pfsense/Openvpn and then DD-WRT has its clients…  Similar.

                                  No one has said yet, but I'm guessing the OPT3 got created auto-magically when you created the OpenVPN client in pfsense?  If so, I'm clear now.

                                  How well is this working for you?

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                                  • panzP
                                    panz
                                    last edited by

                                    @kejianshi:

                                    So, anyway - I've not been running pfsense this way before.  I've only done this with a DD-WRT as client to Pfsense/Openvpn and then DD-WRT has its clients…  Similar.

                                    No one has said yet, but I'm guessing the OPT3 got created auto-magically when you created the OpenVPN client in pfsense?  If so, I'm clear now.

                                    How well is this working for you?

                                    Absolutely not, I created the OPT3 to add a roadwarrior after all VPN testing from LAN –> to AirVPN were successful.

                                    pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                    motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                                      kejianshi
                                      last edited by

                                      Yeah - See thats the part I don't understand why you need it.  But if its working for you, I guess I don't need to understand necessarily.
                                      I have road warriors and I didn't have to create an interface for them - Thats why I'm confused.

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                                      • panzP
                                        panz
                                        last edited by

                                        @kejianshi:

                                        Yeah - See thats the part I don't understand why you need it.  But if its working for you, I guess I don't need to understand necessarily.

                                        I need it because the VPN provider is one (= 1 account), but I have to protect at the same time my internal LAN clients AND roadwarrior client(s) under the same umbrella (LAN = home office; roadwarrior = mobile office).

                                        pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                        motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                                        • panzP
                                          panz
                                          last edited by

                                          Thank you doktornotor, now I understand (yeah!)  8)

                                          pfSense 2.3.2-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                          motherboard: MSI C847MS-E33 Micro ATX (with Intel Celeron CPU 847 @ 1.10 GHz) ~ PSU: Corsair VS350 ~ RAM: Kingston KVR1333D3E9S 4096 MB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 SDRAM 1.5 volt ~ NIC: Intel EXPI9301CTBLK (LAN) ~ NIC: D-Link DFE-528TX (CAM) ~ Hard Disk: Western Digital WD10JFCX Red ~ Case: Cooler Master HAF XB ~ power consumption: 21 Watts.

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                                            kejianshi
                                            last edited by

                                            OK - If it works it works.

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