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    ICMP pings still timing out despite ICMP traffic being reported as passed

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      timthetortoise
      last edited by

      Log from traceroute:

      
      pass
      Nov 8 09:37:17	 LAN	  10.100.4.45:137	      159.153.225.30:137	UDP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:37:12	 LAN	  10.100.4.45:137	      159.153.225.5:137	UDP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:37:08	 LAN	  10.100.4.45:137	      10.242.195.225:137	UDP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:37:03	 LAN	  10.100.4.45:137	      10.105.0.1:137	UDP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:37:03	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      159.153.234.54	ICMP
      
      

      Log from polling:

      
      pass
      Nov 8 09:38:17	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      159.153.226.105	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:17	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      159.153.225.30	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:15	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      159.153.225.5	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:14	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      206.126.236.55	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:12	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      96.34.3.89	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:11	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      96.34.0.48	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:09	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      96.34.2.40	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:08	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      96.34.80.126	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:06	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      96.34.84.142	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:05	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      10.242.195.225	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:05	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      x.x.x.x	ICMP
       pass
      Nov 8 09:38:05	 LAN	  10.100.4.45	      10.105.0.1	ICMP
      
      

      My suggestion would be to allow any to any from your internal IP and log the traffic. Everything that I can touch, the uo program can touch.

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        JacktheSmack
        last edited by

        I made any to any in the WAN rules, with logging, and the only thing that showed up was ICMP packets. I already have any to any in the LAN rules. When I did a Poll, I was still getting 100% loss.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          Not having any issues here with polling.

          I have no special rules other than the default lan rules.. Nat is automatic - you really should not have to do anything for pings to work.

          So curious - are you behind a double nat.. You hide that second hop in your trace..

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            timthetortoise
            last edited by

            Second hop is very likely his public IP.

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              timthetortoise
              last edited by

              @JacktheSmack:

              I made any to any in the WAN rules

              Well there's your problem. You're allowing anyone from anywhere into your WAN interface. Firewall rules apply to inbound packets. The ones from you are inbound on your LAN interface, outbound on your WAN interface. Once they've traversed your WAN interface, for all intents and purposes they're considered an established session, and you don't need any rules on your WAN interface to keep it working. Take the any to any rule off of your WAN interface, that's extremely dangerous.

              Create a rule like this:

              only with your IP instead of mine, and let me know what happens. Make sure that in the "protocol" section you select "any."

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                @timthetortoise:

                Second hop is very likely his public IP.

                It shouldn't be his ip, the gateway off the segment he is connected too sure, which with most isps prob a large segment - mine for example is a /21  So sure in a privacy concern issue you might want to hide part of that IP range.. But it only gives away a segment he is on that would for example in my case be some 2000 addresses ;)

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                  timthetortoise
                  last edited by

                  Yeah, meant gateway. Slow brain day. I've got a /28, so exposing my gateway would not be a great idea. Most people don't get /21s to play around with.

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                    JacktheSmack
                    last edited by

                    @johnpoz:

                    @timthetortoise:

                    Second hop is very likely his public IP.

                    It shouldn't be his ip, the gateway off the segment he is connected too sure, which with most isps prob a large segment - mine for example is a /21  So sure in a privacy concern issue you might want to hide part of that IP range.. But it only gives away a segment he is on that would for example in my case be some 2000 addresses ;)

                    It is my WAN IP that I did block out of the picture. My pfSense router is connected to a Motorola SURFboard SB 6121 modem, which should have no routing or firewalling of any kind.

                    I made the rule exactly as you said, and here it is under pfsense firewall logs.

                    Edit: While the Poll was cycling through, I unplugged my computer from the pfsense router, unplugged the router from the modem, and plugged my PC directly to the modem. Immediatly I started getting responses. It's not my ISP or modem, it's pfsense. I just need to know what setting I have wrong in my router.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      "While the Poll was cycling through, I unplugged my computer from the pfsense router, unplugged the router from the modem, and plugged my PC directly to the modem."

                      Really – normally you need to power cycle a cable modem.  I have the SB6120 and if I change the mac of the device connected to it - I have to power cycle.

                      Power cycle your modem after you connect pfsense.

                      Here is the thing - out of the box what your doing should work.. you should not have to do anything for pings, or traceroutes to work.

                      As to what your blocking out - that should NOT be your wan IP.. What should be in there is the IP of your ISP router your hitting as first hop.  So in my case its 24.13.176.1 while my actual IP is 24.13.x.x in that /21 range.

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                        JacktheSmack
                        last edited by

                        @johnpoz:

                        "While the Poll was cycling through, I unplugged my computer from the pfsense router, unplugged the router from the modem, and plugged my PC directly to the modem."

                        Really – normally you need to power cycle a cable modem.  I have the SB6120 and if I change the mac of the device connected to it - I have to power cycle.

                        Power cycle your modem after you connect pfsense.

                        Here is the thing - out of the box what your doing should work.. you should not have to do anything for pings, or traceroutes to work.

                        As to what your blocking out - that should NOT be your wan IP.. What should be in there is the IP of your ISP router your hitting as first hop.  So in my case its 24.13.176.1 while my actual IP is 24.13.x.x in that /21 range.

                        Oh you're right. That's a different IP address. The more I know….

                        I am gonna power cycle everything once people aren't using the Teamspeak server.

                        Edit: Power cycled, removed the MAC Address spoofing, but still having the issue.

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                          axis-frank
                          last edited by

                          I too am having this issue.

                          Have 2 WAN connections, both PPPoE on pfSense.
                          WAN 1 has an interface address (DHCP) with 5 Static IPs configured as Virtual IP Alias.
                          WAN 2 has a single Static IP, assigned via DHCP from the ISP.

                          I can ping WAN 2 on it's static IP just fine, as it's the same IP as the Interface address.
                          WAN 1 however, will only respond to a ping on it's interface address, but not on any of the IP Aliases. In the system logs, it shows this traffic as a pass entry (I specified to log it), but the machine is not getting a response.

                          Makes no sense!!

                          Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Please let me know if I can help by providing any more information.

                          Thanks in advance.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Your issue is not anything like the OP, not you have described it not.

                            The OP can not ping or traceroute to outside IPs.

                            Your talking about pinging your wans virtual IPs - not even in the same ballpark.  Start your own thread!

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                              axis-frank
                              last edited by

                              My apologies, you're right. I've skimmed so many articles to try and find a solution, I misread this one.

                              Good luck OP

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                                timthetortoise
                                last edited by

                                @axis-frank:

                                My apologies, you're right. I've skimmed so many articles to try and find a solution, I misread this one.

                                Good luck OP

                                Try adding individual firewall rules for each IP on the interface, that was my fix in your case.

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                                  georgeman
                                  last edited by

                                  I downloaded the utility and ran it, no issues with the polling function behind pfSense. Furthermore, I ran a wireshark capture on its traffic and all it generates is ICMP pings. I really can't see why it wouldn't just work ???

                                  If it ain't broke, you haven't tampered enough with it

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                                    JacktheSmack
                                    last edited by

                                    I disabled all packet filtering temporarily and despite NAT being completely off,  it's still not working. Also I polled a couple of computers on the network just fine, with 0% loss.

                                    So if it's not the firewall that's stopping it, what is?

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                                      georgeman
                                      last edited by

                                      What if you get one of those hops and ping it from a console? Do you get replies?

                                      If it ain't broke, you haven't tampered enough with it

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        can we see your wan and lan rules.. And are you nats automatic - and your floating tab is empty?

                                        and you only have wan and lan interfaces on pfsense right?

                                        This should just work out of the box, bing bang zoom.. You have something odd going on that is for sure - but without seeing your wan and lan rules and any nats you might have setup its hard to tell where your issue is.

                                        Please post screen shots of these screens so we can see your full set.

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                                          JacktheSmack
                                          last edited by

                                          @georgeman:

                                          What if you get one of those hops and ping it from a console? Do you get replies?

                                          Yes, pinging the hops individually works fine.

                                          @johnpoz:

                                          can we see your wan and lan rules.. And are you nats automatic - and your floating tab is empty?

                                          and you only have wan and lan interfaces on pfsense right?

                                          This should just work out of the box, bing bang zoom.. You have something odd going on that is for sure - but without seeing your wan and lan rules and any nats you might have setup its hard to tell where your issue is.

                                          Please post screen shots of these screens so we can see your full set.

                                          I've attached all the firewall rules and LAN/WAN settings.

                                          http://imgur.com/a/MM8a8









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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Ok why and the hell do you have a 192.168.1.50 address as vip for a 1:1 to your wan?

                                            What do you think that 1:1 nat is doing?

                                            Your LAN rules say if your coming from 192.168.1.50 you can talk to 192.168.1.234??  When would that rule ever come into play?  A box on 192.168.1.0/24 ie your lan would never even send a packet to 192.168.1.1 because 192.168.1.234 is its own network.  And isn't .50 the vip you created?

                                            I would suggest you remove all that stuff.  I would then delete your nat rules since seems your currently set to auto but must at one time set it to manual.. So those should be deleted.

                                            Your best best would be to prob just from the console do a
                                            4) Reset to factory defaults

                                            And then see what happens.

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