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    • GertjanG Offline
      Gertjan
      last edited by

      The (portal) minicron is stand alone.

      It's activated when the portal interface is activated.
      Here: /etc/inc/captiveportal.inc - see for yourself on line 334 - or killed if the captive portal is deactivated (line 350).

      This means that 'something' is playing with the pfSense config interface or someone has root level access and killing by hand the minicron (and thus portal users have indefinite access).

      The question persists: first: when is your minincron is killed. Then: why ? it blows up by itself ?? (and/or by who ?).
      The why part might be system related: mine is working for weeks, months … (I have a nearly bare pfSEnse setup - no plugins - no packages).

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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      • A Offline
        adegans
        last edited by

        My knowledge of the system doesn't go much further than the web interface.

        But I can't imagine it's very hard to find the cause of this by someone who is more 'involved'. Some input from a developer who actually makes this package would probably be helpful too.

        If there is something I need to provide (logs or whatever) just tell me where and how to get them and I'll see if I can be of use.

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        • GertjanG Offline
          Gertjan
          last edited by

          The portal interface isn't a package, its a core function of pfSense.

          I'm pretty sure a dev would drop in after the following:
          State this:
          What hardware are you sing ? Free disk size ? Mem size ? Interfaces ?
          What is your pfSense setup - basic use ? load ?
          Did it happen after a clean install (after 'format') ?
          When did it happen ? How many users ?

          Start with:

          (if doubts: in file /etc/rc.prunecaptiveportal copy line 50 to line 42 - and change the text to: "Portal minicron - running now"

          it won't harm the activity of your pfSEnse setup - and show you when the minicron that logs of portal users, dies.

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          • A Offline
            adegans
            last edited by

            Alright, here you go:

            What hardware are you sing ? 
            Soekris 6501-70 - 1.6Ghz ARM, 2GB, Sata disk 250GB
            
            Version	2.1-RELEASE (i386) 
            Platform	 pfSense
            CPU Type	 Genuine Intel(R) CPU @ 1.60GHz
            2 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads
            
            Free disk size ? At least 200GB
            Mem size ? 2GB (13% at time of writing)
            Interfaces ? 4x 1Gbit (2x wan, 2x lan diff subnets)
            What is your pfSense setup - basic use ? DHCP/DNS/FreeRadius (for CP)/CP (1 Zone)/NAT/Firewall/NTP
            load ? Load average 0.10, 0.03, 0.01 (At time of this writing, never seen it go notably high)
            Did it happen after a clean install (after 'format') ? This is a relative clean and basic setup (redid the whole thing for 2.1 because of a failed upgrade)
            When did it happen ? Since install
            How many users ? So far everyone who used CP
            
            
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            • M Offline
              mikenl
              last edited by

              What hardware are you using ?

              ESXI 5.1 vm
              Dual-Core AMD Opteron™ Processor 8218
              2 CPUs: 2 package(s) x 1 core(s)
              Load average 0.07, 0.20, 0.31
              Memory usage 45% of 3051 MB
              Disk usage 50% of 8.7G

              Version 2.1-RELEASE (i386)
              Platform pfSense
              CPU Type Genuine Intel(R) CPU @ 1.60GHz
              2 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads

              Interfaces ? 3 in use, 8 vlans not in use now
              What is your pfSense setup - basic use ? DHCP DNS Radius NAT Firewall NTP Snort Squid
              Did it happen after a clean install (after 'format') ? Not a clean install, upgrade from 2.0.1
              When did it happen ? Since upgrade

              This morning i couldn't "restart" the CP, users remain active even after a "save" on the config page. Disable/enable the CP helped, and the portal minicron is back.

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              • GertjanG Offline
                Gertjan
                last edited by

                All minicrons are still up ?

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                • M Offline
                  mikenl
                  last edited by

                  Was away a few days, the cp minicrons are gone again :(

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                  • M Offline
                    mikenl
                    last edited by

                    Looking at the log :

                    Nov 10 12:02:47 lighttpd[10730]: (request.c.1133) GET/HEAD with content-length -> 400
                    Nov 10 11:52:51 php: /snort/snort_alerts.php: [Snort] Snort RELOAD CONFIG for lan(le1)…
                    Nov 10 11:52:50 check_reload_status: Syncing firewall
                    Nov 10 11:52:47 php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: Skipping CP prunning process because previous/another instance is already running
                    Nov 10 11:51:46 php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: Skipping CP prunning process because previous/another instance is already running
                    Nov 10 11:50:46 php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: Skipping CP prunning process because previous/another instance is already running

                    Until Nov 10 11:52:47 everything was working.
                    Snort reloads config for lan (captive portal is on another interface OPT1)

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                    • GertjanG Offline
                      Gertjan
                      last edited by

                      This:
                      @mikenl:

                      Nov 10 11:52:47 php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: Skipping CP prunning process because previous/another instance is already running

                      means that minicron invoked /etc/inc/rc.prunecaptiveportal 60 secondes later - but the instance that ran the minute before did not terminate - or didn't terminate properly.
                      First, it checks if another instance is already running. If so, it logs the message "Skipping CP pruning…" and stops.
                      The next minute (120 sec later), it will silently skip this message, and start the (another ?!) pruning process.

                      This boils down to the fact that the function captiveportal_prune_old(); in /etc/inc/captiveportal.inc doesn't stop in 60 seconds - or, worse, just, some how, "blows up".
                      This would explain that even the minicron itself is blown up.

                      @mikenl : I understood you use a radius authentication.
                      Have a look at the file /etc/inc/captiveportal.inc, find the function captiveportal_prune_old();
                      If you feel up to it, add this line
                      log_error("CP prunning process : step XX");
                      on several places, increment XX for every next log line.
                      This will indicate where in the code things go wrong.

                      Concentrate your 'log_error' line there where radius is involved.

                      I suspect that radius communication some how drops … taking down the entire pruning process.

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        adegans
                        last edited by

                        Im using radius too, with account verification.
                        ALso I use timeouts and the expirydate.

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                        • GertjanG Offline
                          Gertjan
                          last edited by

                          For both of you, where is the radius server situated ?
                          On the LAN segment ?
                          Other packages like Snort, Sguid, etc do not interfere with the communication pfSense <=> Radius server ?

                          I don't know if it is possible for you (both): stop making use of radius solves the problem ?

                          edit: This http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,63791.0.html suggests putting the radius server on its own lan segment.

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          • A Offline
                            adegans
                            last edited by

                            I'm using the FreeRadius2 on the computer itself. So it's localhost.

                            I can't disable it as I rely on it's timeout features for networked access (I sell access per hour using those accounts).
                            For a few accounts (and possible others where I just didn't notice it) I saw that the expiration date (In free radius) of the account may interfere with the expiring of the CP session.

                            Right now I set an account to expire the next day and define specific access such as "Ma0900-1200". Often the Ma… bit doesn't allow proper access and the session seems to remain active till the actual expiration date.

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                            • M Offline
                              mikenl
                              last edited by

                              @Gertjan:

                              This:

                              @mikenl : I understood you use a radius authentication.
                              Have a look at the file /etc/inc/captiveportal.inc, find the function captiveportal_prune_old();
                              If you feel up to it, add this line
                              log_error("CP prunning process : step XX");
                              on several places, increment XX for every next log line.
                              This will indicate where in the code things go wrong.

                              Concentrate your 'log_error' line there where radius is involved.

                              I suspect that radius communication some how drops … taking down the entire pruning process.

                              Will do.
                              Not using the Radiusserver is not an option, using Freeradius on a windows host in the same LAN.

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                              • M Offline
                                mikenl
                                last edited by

                                Ok, don't know if i'm getting anywhere.
                                To me it seems that it just stops :

                                Nov 12 20:38:29 	lighttpd[75519]: (request.c.1133) GET/HEAD with content-length -> 400
                                Nov 12 19:46:16 	php: rc.filter_configure_sync: There was an error while parsing the package filter rules for /usr/local/pkg/squid.inc.
                                Nov 12 19:46:16 	php: rc.filter_configure_sync: The command '/sbin/pfctl -nf /tmp/rules.test.packages' returned exit code '1', the output was '/tmp/rules.test.packages:45: syntax error /tmp/rules.test.packages:46: syntax error'
                                Nov 12 19:46:15 	php: rc.filter_configure_sync: There was an error while parsing the package filter rules for /usr/local/pkg/squid.inc.
                                Nov 12 19:46:15 	php: rc.filter_configure_sync: The command '/sbin/pfctl -nf /tmp/rules.test.packages' returned exit code '1', the output was '/tmp/rules.test.packages:46: syntax error'
                                Nov 12 19:46:11 	check_reload_status: Reloading filter
                                Nov 12 19:46:11 	php: /pkg_edit.php: Reloading Squid for configuration sync
                                Nov 12 19:46:09 	check_reload_status: Syncing firewall
                                Nov 12 19:45:22 	php: rc.filter_configure_sync: There was an error while parsing the package filter rules for /usr/local/pkg/squid.inc.
                                Nov 12 19:45:22 	php: rc.filter_configure_sync: The command '/sbin/pfctl -nf /tmp/rules.test.packages' returned exit code '1', the output was '/tmp/rules.test.packages:45: syntax error /tmp/rules.test.packages:46: syntax error'
                                Nov 12 19:45:21 	php: rc.filter_configure_sync: There was an error while parsing the package filter rules for /usr/local/pkg/squid.inc.
                                Nov 12 19:45:21 	php: rc.filter_configure_sync: The command '/sbin/pfctl -nf /tmp/rules.test.packages' returned exit code '1', the output was '/tmp/rules.test.packages:46: syntax error'
                                Nov 12 19:45:18 	check_reload_status: Reloading filter
                                Nov 12 19:45:18 	php: /pkg_edit.php: Reloading Squid for configuration sync
                                Nov 12 19:45:16 	check_reload_status: Syncing firewall
                                Nov 12 19:45:06 	php: /diag_logs.php: Successful login for user 'admin' from: 192.168.0.9
                                Nov 12 19:45:06 	php: /diag_logs.php: Successful login for user 'admin' from: 192.168.0.9
                                Nov 12 19:45:04 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01b
                                Nov 12 19:45:04 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01
                                Nov 12 19:45:04 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: Skipping CP prunning process because previous/another instance is already running
                                Nov 12 19:44:03 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01b
                                Nov 12 19:44:03 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01
                                Nov 12 19:44:03 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: Skipping CP prunning process because previous/another instance is already running
                                Nov 12 19:43:03 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01b
                                Nov 12 19:43:03 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01
                                Nov 12 19:43:03 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: Skipping CP prunning process because previous/another instance is already running
                                Nov 12 19:42:02 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01b
                                Nov 12 19:42:02 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01
                                Nov 12 19:42:02 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: Skipping CP prunning process because previous/another instance is already running
                                Nov 12 19:41:02 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01b
                                Nov 12 19:41:02 	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 01
                                

                                /etc/inc/captiveportal.inc :

                                	$radiussrvs = captiveportal_get_radius_servers();
                                log_error("CP prunning process : step 01");
                                
                                	/* Read database */
                                	/* NOTE: while this can be simplified in non radius case keep as is for now */
                                	$cpdb = captiveportal_read_db();
                                log_error("CP prunning process : step 01b");
                                
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                                • A Offline
                                  adegans
                                  last edited by

                                  I gave in (up?) and removed Radius, time outs using the local usersystem work fine.

                                  Just FYI… This to me confirms there is a problem with Freeradius.

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                                  • GertjanG Offline
                                    Gertjan
                                    last edited by

                                    @mikenl:

                                    log_error("CP prunning process : step 01");

                                    This is the way to go.
                                    You should place des "step xx" everywhere.
                                    Just before a function, and just after a function.

                                    Like:

                                    log_error("CP prunning process : step 01b - before");
                                    	$cpdb = captiveportal_read_db();
                                    log_error("CP prunning process : step 01b - after");
                                    
                                    ```After a while, when it brakes, you'll know where it entered, and never came back.
                                    
                                    If it is a radius function call, have a look at /etc/inc/radius.inc
                                    
                                    Btw: I'm not using Radius but I'm pretty sure many people do.
                                    I don't think they all accept "unlimited portal access" while they are using Radius as an accounting system.
                                    So: the questions is: they aren't aware of the situation ? Radius is working well for them ?
                                    You both aren't using the same radius server …
                                    
                                    mikenl: STOP using squid - your log shows far to many errors - even worse: it tries to redo the firewall itself with faulty rules. This means that one of the basic function of your pfSEnse box becomes messy. I would consider it as non-stable.

                                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                    • M Offline
                                      mikenl
                                      last edited by

                                      Well, i've stopped using squid and now all seems to be well.
                                      The CP is running for three days now whitout any issue.

                                      Edit :

                                      Ahum, well i made some changes to snort  and :

                                      Nov 21 08:47:04	kernel: le2: promiscuous mode enabled
                                      Nov 21 08:46:56	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Snort START for opt1(le2)...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:55	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Building new sig-msg.map file for OPT1...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:55	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Enabling any flowbit-required rules for: OPT1...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:50	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Updating rules configuration for: OPT1 ...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:49	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Building new sig-msg.map file for LAN...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:49	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Enabling any flowbit-required rules for: LAN...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:45	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Updating rules configuration for: LAN ...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:44	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Building new sig-msg.map file for WAN...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:44	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Enabling any flowbit-required rules for: WAN...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:40	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: [Snort] Updating rules configuration for: WAN ...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:40	php: /snort/snort_interfaces.php: Toggle (snort starting) for OPT1(opt1)...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:12	php: /snort/snort_rulesets.php: [Snort] Building new sig-msg.map file for WAN...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:11	php: /snort/snort_rulesets.php: [Snort] Enabling any flowbit-required rules for: WAN...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:07	php: /snort/snort_rulesets.php: [Snort] Updating rules configuration for: WAN ...
                                      Nov 21 08:46:07	check_reload_status: Syncing firewall
                                      Nov 21 08:45:45	kernel: le2: promiscuous mode disabled
                                      Nov 21 08:45:45	kernel: pid 50689 (snort), uid 0: exited on signal 11
                                      Nov 21 08:45:44	lighttpd[17615]: (connections.c.137) (warning) close: 27 Connection reset by peer
                                      Nov 21 08:45:44	check_reload_status: Syncing firewall
                                      Nov 21 08:45:39	php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 02b begin
                                      

                                      The rule : php: rc.prunecaptiveportal: CP prunning process : step 02b begin should be in the log every minute.

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                                      • GertjanG Offline
                                        Gertjan
                                        last edited by

                                        @mikenl:

                                        Nov 21 08:45:45	kernel: pid 50689 (snort), uid 0: exited on signal 11
                                        

                                        Please Google this "exited on signal 11".
                                        signal 11 normally stands for "Houston, we have a problem …"
                                        This problem could be 'software' or worse: hardware.

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                        • M Offline
                                          mikenl
                                          last edited by

                                          Ok,
                                          I have had zero problems the last days since i disabled squid and didn't touch the system.
                                          Too bad, i was using squid in combination with squidguard.

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                                          • GertjanG Offline
                                            Gertjan
                                            last edited by

                                            What you could try:
                                            If you have a spare NIC, put your radius server on that NIC.
                                            Now, you could "run" squid. DO NOT let it handle or touch the NIC where the radius server is running.
                                            When it goes down, making a mess on all its interfaces, it will not interact with the radius connection.

                                            Please note: I do not advise you to run a package that goes "signal 11" or core dump, but this test would nail down the issue.

                                            The minicron that prunes the portal users is running a high level language like PHP, it takes a boatload of code, and some time - questions radius about every users status. When squid goes down, this is interrupted, taking the minicron with it.
                                            That is what was happening on your system (I think).

                                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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