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      Guest
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      ASGH,
      Can you give me  a URL to download?

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Really? You're asking about that on the pfSense forum!  ???

        Have you any idea the effort that Chris and Jim put into the book?

        Steve

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          phil.davis
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          Seriously guys, this is an Open Source project with a group of dedicated and professional guys in ESF coordinating and nowadays doing the vast bulk of development. They deserve to be able to eat and pay the mortgage. Pay your $US99, get the subscription, get the PDF of the book, get auto config backup, get the monthly "hangout".

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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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            @ASGH:

            The draft copy of this book is available to be downloaded from the public! I found through my google search!

            PM me the search terms you used and the URL that had it and we can get it taken down if it's really there. I didn't see anything in the first couple of pages that was the 2.1 draft version.

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              ASGH
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              @jimp:

              @ASGH:

              The draft copy of this book is available to be downloaded from the public! I found through my google search!

              PM me the search terms you used and the URL that had it and we can get it taken down if it's really there. I didn't see anything in the first couple of pages that was the 2.1 draft version.

              Done, I've sent you the link & searching term.

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by

                Thanks, I passed it on and we'll try to get it taken down.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Edit: replied to a now deleted post.

                  Ah, well that is a problem. Something I'd not considered in fact.  :-\

                  Steve

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                    AlexF
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                    @phil.davis:

                    Seriously guys, this is an Open Source project with a group of dedicated and professional guys in ESF coordinating and nowadays doing the vast bulk of development. They deserve to be able to eat and pay the mortgage. Pay your $US99, get the subscription, get the PDF of the book, get auto config backup, get the monthly "hangout".

                    Or,… how about just offer the book, without subscription, auto config backup, monthly "hangout", at reasonable price? They don't have to do it, of course - it's their product and business model, after all, however, at least be open with us - tell us if and (if so) approximately when.

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                      ptt Rebel Alliance
                      last edited by

                      Once it be ready/finished, they will be selling the book, same way the previous book

                      For now, they offer the "draft version" to the "gold subscription" customers as a "gift"

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                        ulflun
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                        I was very close to buying both pfSense: The Definitive Guide and pfSense 2 CookBook but now when I read how outdated they are, I skip it and wait for the new book to be released. I would prefer to have the physical book and not a PDF so I'll just wait.

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                          AlexF
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                          @ptt:

                          Once it be ready/finished, they will be selling the book, same way the previous book
                          For now, they offer the "draft version" to the "gold subscription" customers as a "gift"

                          Documentation describes functionality and behavior - without it, no-one except the authors know what to expect. Undocumented, pfSense is just a complex toy.

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                            Supermule Banned
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                            Documentation should follow the release….its like that everywhere else.

                            Things change so quickly that the book will be outdated the time its released!

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                              Finger79
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                              I have an idea for the team.  Right now we have two choices:

                              1)  Gold Subscription, which includes the book online.
                              2)  Buy the physical copy of the book as they are released.

                              Can there be a third option:

                              3)  "Book Subscription" for, say, $10 per year, that only includes an online version of the latest documentation but without the Gold Subscription support features?

                              I'm kind of undecided at this point.  I plan on ordering the 2.1 book when it comes out, but the 2.1.1 and 2.2 releases will be out and like the idea of online, fresh content.

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                                bennyc
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                                Good idea! But I would suggest to make it broader… there are plenty of "home" users (like me), and to be honest $100 for a gold subscription is not what I want to spend as a yearly recurring cost. Lower that enough (not talking about going down to $10), and I think much more people (including me) will sign up for a yearly subscription, even if the only advantage is funding the project & getting the latest software + documentation? (call it silver, book, basic, ... you name it)
                                It will create revenue, it's the economy of numbers...  8)

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                                  AlexF
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                                  @Supermule:

                                  Things change so quickly that the book will be outdated the time its released!

                                  (That's why, technical) paper books don't make sense in 2014.

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                                    bennyc
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                                    True… but digital form is much more difficult to control, it tends to lead a life of its own, rather fast.
                                    So while I understand the motivation to make a paper version out of it and don't question the work & good intentions, the fact is that this (almost) release has been dangling before our nose for already quite some time. (carrot-and-stick approach  ::))

                                    Guess we need to consider ourselves lucky the software releases don't use the same pace  ;D

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      A paywalled HTML version perhaps? Continuously up-datable. Kind of gets around piracy issues by rendering anything that appears on a torrent already out of date. Cannot be read somewhere you don't have internet connectivity though.
                                      I'm sure Chris and Jim will have considered other publishing models. Personally I'll definitely be buying the book simply because I like having books. Easy to read on a plane, doesn't go flat, can scribble notes on it.

                                      Steve

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                                        ripper
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                                        Any release date for the book yet ?

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                                        • GruensFroeschliG
                                          GruensFroeschli
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                                          When it's done ;)

                                          We do what we must, because we can.

                                          Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                                            Guest
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                                            @bennyc:

                                            True… but digital form is much more difficult to control, it tends to lead a life of its own, rather fast.
                                            So while I understand the motivation to make a paper version out of it and don't question the work & good intentions, the fact is that this (almost) release has been dangling before our nose for already quite some time. (carrot-and-stick approach  ::))

                                            Guess we need to consider ourselves lucky the software releases don't use the same pace  ;D

                                            Actually, part of the solution means making both the book and the software rev faster.

                                            Think:  continuous development.

                                            This requires several things to change about the historic pfSense project.  The first change is in-place, as we now have dedicated editors (one is a former teacher) who are "pair editing" the book.  When that process completes we will fix a few formatting issues, and have everything in-place to keep the book updated and in-sync with what is happening on the software side.  Obviously, the 'electronic' edition(s) will be more up-to-date than a printed copy, but this and the additional costs are a downside for any hardcopy book.

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