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    • M
      mskenderian
      last edited by

      I have three interfaces, WAN, LAN, WLAN

      Iwant to isolate LAN and WLAN, so they can not send traffic or anything in between each of the subnet.
      LAN is 10.20.30.0/24
      WLAN is 10.20.31.0/24

      my firewalls rules are:
      On the LAN
      Action: Block
      Protocol: IPv4
      Source: 10.20.31.0/24
      Port: *
      Destination: *
      Port: *
      Gateway:  *

      my firewalls rules are:
      On the WLAN
      Action: Block
      Protocol: IPv4
      Source: 10.20.30.0/24
      Port: *
      Destination: *
      Port: *
      Gateway:  *

      Does this look correct?
      Iam still able to ping from LAN to WLAN….

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      • GruensFroeschliG
        GruensFroeschli
        last edited by

        Your rules are the wrong way around.
        Also don't design your rules around explicit blocks, but around explicit allows.
        There is an invisible "block all" rule after all your own rules.

        On the LAN create a single rule:
        Allow
        Source: LAN-subnet
        Destination: !WLAN-subnet

        Respective
        Allow
        Source: WLAN-subnet
        Destination: !LLAN-subnet

        We do what we must, because we can.

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        • M
          mskenderian
          last edited by

          does just that still allows me to ping. to an device on the wlan?

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          • GruensFroeschliG
            GruensFroeschli
            last edited by

            from where?

            We do what we must, because we can.

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            • V
              viragomann
              last edited by

              Per default there is no access between network interfaces anyway.

              Protocol: IPv4

              IPv4 is not a protocol, but the IP version!
              If you select any for protocol it should work and disallow ping likewise.

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              • M
                mskenderian
                last edited by

                LAN is 10.20.30.0/24
                WLAN is 10.20.33.0/24

                from lan to wlan, i am able to ping a device from

                10.20.30.100

                to

                10.20.33.2

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                • M
                  mskenderian
                  last edited by

                  @viragomann:

                  Per default there is no access between network interfaces anyway.

                  Protocol: IPv4

                  IPv4 is not a protocol, but the IP version!
                  If you select any for protocol it should work and disallow ping likewise.

                  under firewal rules it says

                  TCP/IP Version {dropdown menu} Select the Internet Protocol version this rule applies to

                  i just copied and pasted it.

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                  • GruensFroeschliG
                    GruensFroeschli
                    last edited by

                    Did you change your rules to be the way i described them?
                    Can you show a screenshot of your current rules?

                    We do what we must, because we can.

                    Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                    • M
                      mskenderian
                      last edited by

                      yes i did, i will send a screenshot in the morning.
                      but even with no rules shouldnt it block it. since there is an invisible deny all rule.

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                      • GruensFroeschliG
                        GruensFroeschli
                        last edited by

                        Yes if you have no rules at all then everything should be blocked.

                        We do what we must, because we can.

                        Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                        • M
                          mskenderian
                          last edited by

                          here are the screenshots with no rules, it should block the traffic from one interface (subnet) to another (subnet)

                          https://www.dropbox.com/s/g44e9q50b8hc8uy/firewall%20-%20%20floating.png
                          https://www.dropbox.com/s/urcibwd0k4nytj6/firewall%20-%20lan.png
                          https://www.dropbox.com/s/ovjs1fr0pdcyj51/firewall%20-%20wlan.png
                          https://www.dropbox.com/s/lneaufs6bnm7qs9/ping.jpg

                          i will post the other screen shots with the rules, but regardless it should not allow u to ping unless some of my other settings are wrong.

                          edit: removed img tags

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            I don't see any screenshots

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                            • GruensFroeschliG
                              GruensFroeschli
                              last edited by

                              On the LAN and the WLAN tab you obviously have the "default allow LAN/WLAN to any rule".
                              This is not "no rule".

                              We do what we must, because we can.

                              Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                              • M
                                mskenderian
                                last edited by

                                wow how did i not see that, ok will change it to lan to wan  - Default allow lan to Wan rule.

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  Don't forget to clear states if you're going to immediately test after making changes like this.

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                                  • M
                                    mskenderian
                                    last edited by

                                    yes i did, perfect. thank you both for your help.

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                                      phil.davis
                                      last edited by

                                      @mskenderian:

                                      wow how did i not see that, ok will change it to lan to wan  - Default allow lan to Wan rule.

                                      A rule like "Pass protocol any source LANnet destination WANnet" will not be much use, because you actually want to allow traffic from LANnet to "the big bad public internet", not just traffic to your WANnet.
                                      So you will likely want rules like:

                                      "Pass protocol any source LANnet destination not WLANnet"
                                      "Pass protocol any source WLANnet destination not LANnet"

                                      or some other combination of pass and block rules to achieve a similar effect.

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